Re: test-ignore

2024-02-18 Thread Science Researcher via Python-list

"Lawrence D'Oliveiro"  wrote in message news:uqrik4$lrc1$1...@dont-email.me...

On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 17:00:59 -0600, Science Researcher wrote:


"Lawrence D'Oliveiro"  wrote in message
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   If I remember correctly, I had to get the installation program
   from a third party site.


I’m sure that was a perfectly trustworthy site, no doubt ...

Comment:  My moderately expensive computer virus program can be instructed 
to check the contents of downloaded EXE programs and other types of programs 
or ZIP files.  It appears to do a fairly good job with that.  But, you are 
correct.  People should be careful regarding what they download.


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Proposed Python Computer Program - Feb. 17, 2024

2024-02-18 Thread Science Researcher via Python-list

PROPOSED PYTHON COMPUTER LANGUAGE PROGRAM - Posted on February 17, 2024


TOPICS

Some Background Information
Test Post Newsgroups
Adding Posting Dates To Newsgroup Notes
E-mail Address
Other Internet Security Steps
Personal Opinion Statements


SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION

  A fair amount of detail has been included with this Newsgroup post 
because now that I finally have my Newsgroup posting program running again, 
I am planning to soon start recommending that Python programmers around the 
world consider working on the creation of a very important python computer 
language program that I believe will be of great value to international 
disaster management efforts and to quite a few scientists around the world.


  The overall programming effort might best be run by university and 
government python programming personnel.  But the computer program would 
have so many different uses that individual programmers would likely be able 
to make improvements and submit them for consideration by the university and 
government groups.


  A perl computer language version of the program has been running for 
years.  A long time ago, code for an early version was formally copyrighted 
in the United States.  Program code was also made available for free use 
under a GNU license.


  The version of perl that I am using processes computer program code 
in a very slow manner.  The present perl program contains more than 13,000 
line of code and has to generate png picture files by sending information to 
a gnuplot program.


  Compiled python programs would run much faster and be of greater 
value to scientists.  Gnuplot, for example, would no longer be needed.  I 
expect that once a python version of the program became available to 
scientists, the program would evolve with tremendous speed.  It should have 
the ability to tell scientists how to make improvements to its own math 
routines.  They would improve the program's data generation accuracy and its 
value.


  One of my specialty areas in science involves disaster management 
where I believe I am considered to be an "Expert."  I have several degrees 
in the physical sciences.  I do a fair amount of computer programming but 
would not be considered a python computer programming "Expert" or even a 
"Novice."  So it would be difficult for me to translate the present perl and 
gnuplot routines to python.


  In the past, one programming problem resulted from the fact that I 
developed the original perl program with the help of a retired U.S. 
government computer programmer.  He could work with gnuplot and TrueBasic 
but was unable to work with either perl or python.  A number of compromises 
had to be made.  One involved using gnuplot to generate picture files.



TEST POST NEWSGROUPS

  Several response posts to my original test posts discussed sending 
them to some test Newsgroup before posting them to the comp.lang.python 
Newsgroup.


  I did post one or more of my original tests posts to the 
test.ignore   Newsgroup.



  There were two  problems that I was having was with my E-mail 
computer program - Windows Live Mail - that also creates my Newsgroup posts.


First - It worked fine for E-mail after I installed it on my computer.  But 
it would not work for Newsgroup posts.  I called my E-mail server personnel 
about the problem.  But they seemed to have no idea regarding what I was 
talking about and could not answer my questions.



Second - my Newsgroup post program would not use the return E-mail address 
that I wanted it to use when it created Newsgroup posts.



Solutions - The solutions for both problems were to just reset everything 
with my E-mail server and my E-mail and Newsgroup message creation program. 
Then the Newsgroup posting part of "Windows Live Mail" started working.



ADDING POSTING DATES TO NEWSGROUP NOTES

  The contents of my Newsgroup posts are at times sent to people by 
E-mail or are posted to Internet forums.  So, I usually add the posting date 
to my Newsgroup posts so that people receiving the E-mails or reading the 
forum posts know when the original Newsgroup message was posted.  The 
E-mails etc. would just contain text information.  People reading them would 
not be able to determine from the header information when the original 
Newsgroup note was posted.



E-MAIL ADDRESS

  The response E-mail address attached to this Newsgroup post is a real 
E-mail address.


  It has a special form so that the address can be easily changed when 
spam robots start sending E-mails to that address.


  Over the years I have found that spam robots can create a variety of 
problems once they get hold of an E-mail address.  Making a minor change in 
the E-mail address seems to take care of the problem.  It appears that even 
a simple change can confuse most or all of the spam robots.  For a while, 
they likely continue to send E-mails to an address that no longer exists and 

Python Stampede Time? – Feb. 18, 2024

2024-02-18 Thread Science Researcher via Python-list
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PROPOSED PYTHON COMPUTER LANGUAGE PROGRAM - Posted on February 17, 2024


PYTHON STAMPEDE TIME ? – Posted on February 18, 2024

  Before discussing this specific topic in detail I am going to mention 
another Internet security practice.  That practice applies to this 
particular posting.



WEB SITE ADDRESSES

  It can pose some risks for a person to post a note to any Newsgroup 
or for him or her to even circulate an E-mail letter that contains his or 
her exact Web site address.


  One of the reasons for this is the fact that many hackers around the 
world can probably gain access to files that contain Web site addresses. 
They can then change something in an address.  When people click on that 
address they can then be fooled and transported to the hacker’s own Web site 
where there could be some malicious software.


  Generally, what I myself do is point people to major Internet search 
engines where they can find links to my personal Web site.  I expect that it 
can be difficult for hackers to effectively trick major Internet search 
engines such as Yahoo or Google into providing people with inaccurate Web 
site addresses.  The hackers might trick the search engines for short 
periods of time.  But recovery for the search engines should be fairly 
rapid.



PYTHON COMPUTER LANGUAGE PROGRAMMERS

  Over the years, I have worked with personnel involved with quite a 
few governments and organizations such as the United Nations.


  Some python Newsgroup readers might think that I am making up the 
following:


  Without any doubt and quite surprisingly, the most cooperative people 
whom I have ever encountered are the people who post notes to the python 
Newsgroup.


  My best guess is that they (some of you) do a certain amount of 
computer programming because it is simply interesting and fun.  It is 
unlikely that anyone is paying you to post notes here.


  I hope that this spirit of cooperation will continue.  Responses to 
this present post should indicate if that will remain the case.



PYTHON STAMPEDE TIME ?

  What I discovered long ago is the fact that perhaps the best way to 
get other scientists around the world to do something, or even anything, is 
to create a “Science Stampede.”


  Most scientists like fame and fortune, especially the fame part. 
They like to publish scientific papers and see their publications get 
discussed in the international news.


  They DON’T like to feel like they are getting left behind in some 
area of science where they believe they might be experts.


  A “Science Stampede” involves circulating information that 
demonstrates that some important scientific discovery has been made.  It 
proposes to scientists that their participation in some effort might get 
them some credit, or money, or both, with their employers or with 
international news service personnel.


  If the scientists believe that the circulated information is credible 
they are likely to try to get involved with the subject matter.  They might 
ask their employers to pay them to work on the project being discussed.


  This sequence of events can quickly result in a “Science Stampede.” 
Everyone rushes to get a piece of the action.



HOW TO CREATE A PYTHON COMPUTER PROGRAM STAMPEDE

  I am going to guess that the following should work.  I hope that it 
will.



MY WEB SITE

  Anyone who wants to visit my Web site can go to any major Internet 
search engine and type in the following line:


earthquake research index.html Data.html

  My Earthquake Forecasting Web site address should be at or near the 
top of the returned list.  If it is not, then try a different search engine.


  Near the top of the index.html Web page there is a link for one of my 
Web pages called “Humanitarian Projects.”  If you click on that link you 
will find a discussion of a number of proposed python computer programming 
efforts.


  One is already running though I was not involved with the effort.  It 
involves using python code to translate and compile programs written using 
other languages.  One called PC BASIC was I believe created using that 
approach.


  Also near the top of the index.html Web page there is a link for one 
of my Web pages called “Energy Islands.”


  I believe that the “Energy Islands” discussed on my Web page 
represent a look into the future for some Renewable Energy projects.  I am 
presently trying to get governments and scientific organization to take an 
interest in doing some research on those proposed “Inventions.”  So far, I 
have never seen anything like them discussed anywhere.



EARTHQUAKE RELATED PYTHON COMPUTER PROGRAMS

  My already existing perl language programs can do a number of things 
that are important for earthquake science.


1. They can generate data related to the locations of 

Yes - But it had to be specially installed - Feb. 17, 2024

2024-02-18 Thread Science Researcher via Python-list




"Lawrence D'Oliveiro"  wrote in message news:uqmbp3$3hsa6$1...@dont-email.me...

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 15:15:58 -0600, E.D.G. wrote:


X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109



Does that still exist?

  "Microsoft Windows Live Mail" did still exist when I installed it 
several years ago on my latest Windows Operating System.


  If I remember correctly, I had to get the installation program from a 
third party site.  It might have been the Microsoft site.  Or it might have 
been SourceForge.net.  You would need to look around the Internet for valid 
copies of Windows Live Mail if you are interested in the program.


Regards to all

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test ignore

2024-02-15 Thread Science Researcher via Python-list

This is a test message - just ignore it
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Re: test ignore

2024-02-15 Thread Science Researcher via Python-list
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This is a test message - just ignore it

That post worked as intended. 


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