Re: 3D Vector Type Line-Drawing Program

2006-10-13 Thread Fabian Braennstroem
Hi,

I am not sure, if that is, what your looking for, but
with 'salome' you able to produce 3D drawings with an GUI or
using a python script. Take a look at:

http://www.salome-platform.org/home/presentation/geom/

* Scott David Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ron Adam wrote:
 Scott David Daniels wrote:
 Ron Adam wrote:
 ... Is there a way to have the display show a wire frame image instead of 
 shaded shapes?
 You can draw the edges as lines.
 
 Is there a setting for this?, or are you suggesting reading the 
 coordinates and creating curve objects for the edges?
 Nope, you'd have to make a poly line which was the wire frame, but it
 would then rotate and such with the rest of the model.  Essentially
 you would, for each primitive, have a wire-frame and a volumetric
 version, and keep one of the two visible (with the other invisible)
 at all times.

 Is there an easy way to convert a display to something that can be 
 printed?

 You can generate POV-ray source.  This is not a system for creating
 beautiful pictures, but rather a great 3-D sketch pad.

 Now POV-ray _will_ create beautiful pictures, but the texturing,
 shading, and lighting control that POV-ray gives you exceeds that
 of VPython.  You could use VPython to get you model built and view-
 point placed, and the tweak the POV-ray code to get pretty output.

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Greetings!
 Fabian

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Re: 3D Vector Type Line-Drawing Program

2006-10-13 Thread Kjell Magne Fauske
 I'm looking for a program to do line-drawings in 3d, with output to
 postscript or svg or pdf, etc. I would like to describe a scene with
 certain 1-3d elements oriented in 3d space with dashed or colored lines
 and filled or transparent surfaces (or maybe semitransparent).


For high quality line drawings using Python you have PyX [1].
Unfortunately it does not come with a 3D library. You probably have too
look elsewere for 3D vector drawings.  Some places to look are:

- Asymptote [2]
- Sketch [3]. A small, simple system for producing line drawings of
two- or three-dimensional solid objects and scenes. Sketch generates
PSTricks code for LaTeX.

Both Asymptote and Sketch requires TeX/LaTeX for typesetting labels and
such. Sketch is probably the closest to what you are looking for. See
[4] for an example of what kind of graphics it can create.

[1] http://pyx.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://asymptote.sourceforge.net/
[3] http://www.frontiernet.net/~eugene.ressler/
[4] http://www.fauskes.net/nb/threedill/

Regards,
Kjell Magne Fauske

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Re: 3D Vector Type Line-Drawing Program

2006-10-12 Thread Ron Adam
Scott David Daniels wrote:
 Ron Adam wrote:
 Scott David Daniels wrote:
 James Stroud wrote:
 I'm looking for a program to do line-drawings in 3d, with output to 
 postscript or svg or pdf, etc. I would like to describe a scene 
 with certain 1-3d elements oriented in 3d space with dashed or 
 colored lines and filled or transparent surfaces (or maybe 
 semitransparent).


 Take a look at VPython -- easy to start, 3-D display (wall-eye /
 cross-eye) easy to run on.

 I really like VPython because of how easy it is to use once you are 
 familiar with it.

 Is there a way to have the display show a wire frame image instead of 
 shaded shapes?
 You can draw the edges as lines.

Is there a setting for this?, or are you suggesting reading the coordinates and 
creating curve objects for the edges?


 Is there an easy way to convert a display to something that can be 
 printed?
 
 You can generate POV-ray source.  This is not a system for creating
 beautiful pictures, but rather a great 3-D sketch pad.

Doing a little googling found this...

http://cgkit.sourceforge.net/index.html


Still most of the items listed here are geared more towards 3d animation or for 
generating displays and are not ideal for generating high quality printed pages.

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Re: 3D Vector Type Line-Drawing Program

2006-10-12 Thread Scott David Daniels
Ron Adam wrote:
 Scott David Daniels wrote:
 Ron Adam wrote:
 ... Is there a way to have the display show a wire frame image instead of 
 shaded shapes?
 You can draw the edges as lines.
 
 Is there a setting for this?, or are you suggesting reading the 
 coordinates and creating curve objects for the edges?
Nope, you'd have to make a poly line which was the wire frame, but it
would then rotate and such with the rest of the model.  Essentially
you would, for each primitive, have a wire-frame and a volumetric
version, and keep one of the two visible (with the other invisible)
at all times.

 Is there an easy way to convert a display to something that can be 
 printed?

 You can generate POV-ray source.  This is not a system for creating
 beautiful pictures, but rather a great 3-D sketch pad.

Now POV-ray _will_ create beautiful pictures, but the texturing,
shading, and lighting control that POV-ray gives you exceeds that
of VPython.  You could use VPython to get you model built and view-
point placed, and the tweak the POV-ray code to get pretty output.

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3D Vector Type Line-Drawing Program

2006-10-11 Thread nelson -
hi,


  Take a look at VPython -- easy to start, 3-D display (wall-eye /
  cross-eye) easy to run on.

 I really like VPython because of how easy it is to use once you are familiar
 with it.

 Is there a way to have the display show a wire frame image instead of shaded
 shapes?  And with or without hidden line removal?


i'm goind the same. I looked to vpython, but i can't make it go with
wxpython. So i make a slightly different question. There is a library
that fits well with wxpython that have features similar to vpython?

thanks,
  nelson
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Re: 3D Vector Type Line-Drawing Program

2006-10-11 Thread Scott David Daniels
Ron Adam wrote:
 Scott David Daniels wrote:
 James Stroud wrote:
 I'm looking for a program to do line-drawings in 3d, with output to 
 postscript or svg or pdf, etc. I would like to describe a scene with 
 certain 1-3d elements oriented in 3d space with dashed or colored 
 lines and filled or transparent surfaces (or maybe semitransparent).


 Take a look at VPython -- easy to start, 3-D display (wall-eye /
 cross-eye) easy to run on.
 
 I really like VPython because of how easy it is to use once you are 
 familiar with it.
 
 Is there a way to have the display show a wire frame image instead of 
 shaded shapes?
You can draw the edges as lines.

  And with or without hidden line removal?
Not that I know of.  The distinction would be whether you actually build
the objects.  Certainly for something like this you would be working
with something like a faces object rather than a fully 3-D object.

 Is there an easy way to convert a display to something that can be printed?

You can generate POV-ray source.  This is not a system for creating
beautiful pictures, but rather a great 3-D sketch pad.


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Re: 3D Vector Type Line-Drawing Program

2006-10-10 Thread Mike C. Fletcher
James Stroud wrote:
 James Stroud wrote:
   
 Hello All,

 I'm looking for a program to do line-drawings in 3d, with output to 
 postscript or svg or pdf, etc. I would like to describe a scene with 
 certain 1-3d elements oriented in 3d space with dashed or colored lines 
 and filled or transparent surfaces (or maybe semitransparent).

 I would then like to set the camera and have the scene depicted as a 
 line drawing (not ray-traced solid body, etc).

 Does anyone know of a library to do this?
 


 I'm really looking for a python library. The title of the post is kind 
 of misleading.
   
At one point I created a gl2ps wrapper for use with PyOpenGL, that, 
combined with any of the PyOpenGL-based renderers would allow much of 
what you're describing, though IIRC it didn't properly support 
transparent or textured surfaces.  You could probably recreate the 
wrapper using ctypes in a few hours and then hook it up in a few more.

I believe there are similar OpenGL-to-SVG libraries here and there, you 
could likely hook one of them up to get a reasonable result that would 
support more graphics features (maybe).  Generally what you get out of 
these things, however, is a quite fragmented view of your objects (that 
is, you get the triangles that would be rendered).  That *can* be coded 
around, but generally people are either focused on making it look good 
or making it editable.

Good luck,
Mike

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Re: 3D Vector Type Line-Drawing Program

2006-10-10 Thread Ron Adam
Scott David Daniels wrote:
 James Stroud wrote:
 I'm looking for a program to do line-drawings in 3d, with output to 
 postscript or svg or pdf, etc. I would like to describe a scene with 
 certain 1-3d elements oriented in 3d space with dashed or colored 
 lines and filled or transparent surfaces (or maybe semitransparent).
 
 
 Take a look at VPython -- easy to start, 3-D display (wall-eye /
 cross-eye) easy to run on.

I really like VPython because of how easy it is to use once you are familiar 
with it.

Is there a way to have the display show a wire frame image instead of shaded 
shapes?  And with or without hidden line removal?

Is there an easy way to convert a display to something that can be printed?

Cheers,
Ron


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3D Vector Type Line-Drawing Program

2006-10-09 Thread James Stroud
Hello All,

I'm looking for a program to do line-drawings in 3d, with output to 
postscript or svg or pdf, etc. I would like to describe a scene with 
certain 1-3d elements oriented in 3d space with dashed or colored lines 
and filled or transparent surfaces (or maybe semitransparent).

I would then like to set the camera and have the scene depicted as a 
line drawing (not ray-traced solid body, etc).

Does anyone know of a library to do this?

James


James Stroud
UCLA-DOE Institute for Genomics and Proteomics
Box 951570
Los Angeles, CA 90095

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Re: 3D Vector Type Line-Drawing Program

2006-10-09 Thread James Stroud
James Stroud wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 I'm looking for a program to do line-drawings in 3d, with output to 
 postscript or svg or pdf, etc. I would like to describe a scene with 
 certain 1-3d elements oriented in 3d space with dashed or colored lines 
 and filled or transparent surfaces (or maybe semitransparent).
 
 I would then like to set the camera and have the scene depicted as a 
 line drawing (not ray-traced solid body, etc).
 
 Does anyone know of a library to do this?


I'm really looking for a python library. The title of the post is kind 
of misleading.

James


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Re: 3D Vector Type Line-Drawing Program

2006-10-09 Thread Scott David Daniels
James Stroud wrote:
 I'm looking for a program to do line-drawings in 3d, with output to 
 postscript or svg or pdf, etc. I would like to describe a scene with 
 certain 1-3d elements oriented in 3d space with dashed or colored 
 lines and filled or transparent surfaces (or maybe semitransparent).


Take a look at VPython -- easy to start, 3-D display (wall-eye /
cross-eye) easy to run on.

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