Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-11 Thread eryk sun
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 4:10 AM Thomas Jollans  wrote:
>
> On 2018-10-11 10:48, jfine2...@gmail.com wrote:
> > It is fun to find fault in the work of a new Nobel laureate. In this case, 
> > a typo.
>
> Not a Nobel laureate. It's not a Nobel prize.

More precisely it's the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics, established
by the central bank of Sweden in 1968, not Alfred Nobel in 1895.
Recipients of this prize are counted among Nobel laureates, though
it's not without controversy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates
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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-11 Thread Rhodri James

On 10/10/18 17:24, jfine2...@gmail.com wrote:

Rhodri James wrote:

Robin Becker wrote:



I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling
check as this quote shows


[Paul Romer's blog]

"Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of
private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the collapse of social
systems that took centuries to build."



these Vandals are probably not in favour of the #me-too movement either :)



OK, colour me confused.  The only spelling mistake I can spot in that is
in the subject line of this thread.  What am I missing?


In addition to Jypyter for Jupyter, there are TWO typos above. One in
Paul Romer's blog, followed by one in Robin Becker's comment.


Ah, the missing l, now I see it.

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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-11 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 2018-10-11 10:48, jfine2...@gmail.com wrote:
> It is fun to find fault in the work of a new Nobel laureate. In this case, a 
> typo.

Not a Nobel laureate. It's not a Nobel prize.

> 
> However, I'm disappointed that no-one has picked up the other error. Someone 
> posted to this thread "the #me-too movement". It should be "#MeToo".
> 
> Yes, I know it's CamelCase. I think that's actually Pythonic. It's the name 
> for a class of messages.
> 
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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-11 Thread jfine2358
It is fun to find fault in the work of a new Nobel laureate. In this case, a 
typo.

However, I'm disappointed that no-one has picked up the other error. Someone 
posted to this thread "the #me-too movement". It should be "#MeToo".

Yes, I know it's CamelCase. I think that's actually Pythonic. It's the name for 
a class of messages.

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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Gregory Ewing

Thomas Jollans wrote:
Sure it is. He's contrasting *private* gain with *public* loss. If there 
is any ambiguity here it is whether there is a threat *of* a public 
loss, or *to* a public loss ^_^


I don't think you've spotted the error yet. I'm trying to
provide a clue as to which word you need to examine...

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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Gregory Ewing

Chris Angelico wrote:

You mean at the level of words, or sentences?


I mean at the word level, so that a dumb algorithm can find
spelling errors. Auto-correcting errors at the semantic level
would require considerably better AI than we have at the moment.

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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Thomas Jollans

On 11/10/2018 01:26, Chris Angelico wrote:

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 10:09 AM Thomas Jollans  wrote:


On 10/10/2018 23:32, Gregory Ewing wrote:

Rhodri James wrote:

I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling
check as this quote shows

"Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of
private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the collapse of
social systems that took centuries to build."


OK, colour me confused.  The only spelling mistake I can spot in that
is in the subject line of this thread.  What am I missing?


Presumably Romer meant that it was a loss suffered by everyone,
but that's not quite what he wrote.


Sure it is. He's contrasting *private* gain with *public* loss. If there
is any ambiguity here it is whether there is a threat *of* a public
loss, or *to* a public loss ^_^


Now read the quote again, very VERY carefully.

The human brain is very good at ignoring insignificant errors.

(The troll brain is very good at pointing out insignificant errors.)


... and this is why we need exception tracebacks

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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 10:09 AM Thomas Jollans  wrote:
>
> On 10/10/2018 23:32, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> > Rhodri James wrote:
> >>> I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling
> >>> check as this quote shows
> >>>
> >>> "Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of
> >>> private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the collapse of
> >>> social systems that took centuries to build."
> >>
> >> OK, colour me confused.  The only spelling mistake I can spot in that
> >> is in the subject line of this thread.  What am I missing?
> >
> > Presumably Romer meant that it was a loss suffered by everyone,
> > but that's not quite what he wrote.
>
> Sure it is. He's contrasting *private* gain with *public* loss. If there
> is any ambiguity here it is whether there is a threat *of* a public
> loss, or *to* a public loss ^_^

Now read the quote again, very VERY carefully.

The human brain is very good at ignoring insignificant errors.

(The troll brain is very good at pointing out insignificant errors.)

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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Thomas Jollans

On 10/10/2018 23:32, Gregory Ewing wrote:

Rhodri James wrote:
I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling 
check as this quote shows


"Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of 
private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the collapse of 
social systems that took centuries to build."


OK, colour me confused.  The only spelling mistake I can spot in that 
is in the subject line of this thread.  What am I missing?


Presumably Romer meant that it was a loss suffered by everyone,
but that's not quite what he wrote.


Sure it is. He's contrasting *private* gain with *public* loss. If there 
is any ambiguity here it is whether there is a threat *of* a public 
loss, or *to* a public loss ^_^


Still, there is a mistake here (and just the one) – that's not the right 
way to use an en-dash.




BTW, an automatic spelling checker wouldn't have helped here.
We really need to redesign English spelling so that it has
error correction built in.



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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:36 AM Gregory Ewing
 wrote:
>
> BTW, an automatic spelling checker wouldn't have helped here.
> We really need to redesign English spelling so that it has
> error correction built in.

You mean at the level of words, or sentences? A sentence already has
enough redundancy that it's frequently possible to reconstruct the
original intent despite errors (as in this case), but it's impossible
to be 100% certain in all cases without either severely limiting the
forms of communication, or simply increasing redundancy, which will
result in abbreviation.

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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Gregory Ewing

Rhodri James wrote:
I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling 
check as this quote shows


"Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of 
private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the collapse of social 
systems that took centuries to build."


OK, colour me confused.  The only spelling mistake I can spot in that is 
in the subject line of this thread.  What am I missing?


Presumably Romer meant that it was a loss suffered by everyone,
but that's not quite what he wrote.

BTW, an automatic spelling checker wouldn't have helped here.
We really need to redesign English spelling so that it has
error correction built in.

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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread codewizard
On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 12:09:41 PM UTC-4, Rhodri James wrote:
> On 10/10/18 08:32, Robin Becker wrote:
> > 
> > I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling 
> > check as this quote shows
> > 
> > "Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of 
> > private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the collapse of social 
> > systems that took centuries to build."
> > 
> > these Vandals are probably not in favour of the #me-too movement either :)
> 
> OK, colour me confused.  The only spelling mistake I can spot in that is 
> in the subject line of this thread.  What am I missing?

The loss is far greater than a single letter. :)
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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread jfine2358
Rhodri James wrote:
> Robin Becker wrote:

> > I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling
> > check as this quote shows

[Paul Romer's blog]
> > "Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of
> > private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the collapse of social
> > systems that took centuries to build."

> > these Vandals are probably not in favour of the #me-too movement either :)

> OK, colour me confused.  The only spelling mistake I can spot in that is
> in the subject line of this thread.  What am I missing?

In addition to Jypyter for Jupyter, there are TWO typos above. One in
Paul Romer's blog, followed by one in Robin Becker's comment.

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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Rhodri James

On 10/10/18 08:32, Robin Becker wrote:

On 10/10/2018 02:17, Terry Reedy wrote:
https://paulromer.net/jupyter-mathematica-and-the-future-of-the-research-paper/ 


Jupyter, Mathematica, and the Future of the Research Paper
Paul Romer, new Nobel prize winner in economics, for research on how 
ideas interact with economic growth, explained last April why he has 
switched from Mathematica to Jupyter.




I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling 
check as this quote shows


"Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of 
private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the collapse of social 
systems that took centuries to build."


these Vandals are probably not in favour of the #me-too movement either :)


OK, colour me confused.  The only spelling mistake I can spot in that is 
in the subject line of this thread.  What am I missing?


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Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Robin Becker

On 10/10/2018 02:17, Terry Reedy wrote:

https://paulromer.net/jupyter-mathematica-and-the-future-of-the-research-paper/
Jupyter, Mathematica, and the Future of the Research Paper
Paul Romer, new Nobel prize winner in economics, for research on how ideas interact with economic growth, explained last April why 
he has switched from Mathematica to Jupyter.




I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling check as 
this quote shows

"Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the collapse of 
social systems that took centuries to build."


these Vandals are probably not in favour of the #me-too movement either :)
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From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-09 Thread Terry Reedy

https://paulromer.net/jupyter-mathematica-and-the-future-of-the-research-paper/
Jupyter, Mathematica, and the Future of the Research Paper
Paul Romer, new Nobel prize winner in economics, for research on how 
ideas interact with economic growth, explained last April why he has 
switched from Mathematica to Jupyter.


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