Re: Generating .pyc/.pyo from a make file

2005-02-03 Thread Just
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 vincent wehren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> > Steve Holden wrote:
> > 
> >> Roland Heiber wrote:
> >>
> >>> Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> >>>
> > Aha!  Exactly ... and that makes perfect sense too.  D'oh!  I guess a 
> > better
> > distribution strategy would be to have the installation program generate 
> > the pyo
> > file at installation time...
> > 
> > Thanks -
> 
> Also, the *.py? files contain the full pathname of the *.py they have 
> been compiled from.

True.

> Copying them to other path locations will give you 
> the wrong __file___ information in tracebacks.

This is not 100% accurate: yes, the traceback shows the original source 
file path, yet module.__file__ does point to the actual .pyc file it was 
loaded from.

Just
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Re: Generating .pyc/.pyo from a make file

2005-02-03 Thread Roland Heiber
Roland Heiber wrote:
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
under the impression that "compiled" meant optimized byte code that
You where right, i was totally mislead by "optimized" ... ;)
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Re: Generating .pyc/.pyo from a make file

2005-02-02 Thread vincent wehren
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
Steve Holden wrote:
Roland Heiber wrote:
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
Aha!  Exactly ... and that makes perfect sense too.  D'oh!  I guess a 
better
distribution strategy would be to have the installation program generate 
the pyo
file at installation time...

Thanks -
Also, the *.py? files contain the full pathname of the *.py they have 
been compiled from. Copying them to other path locations will give you 
the wrong __file___ information in tracebacks.

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Re: Generating .pyc/.pyo from a make file

2005-02-02 Thread Steve Holden
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
Steve Holden wrote:
Roland Heiber wrote:
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
It does - thanks.  One more question:  Are pyc and pyo file portable
across operating systems?  I suspect not since I generated a pyo
on a FreeBSD machine that will not run on a Win32 machine.  I was
under the impression that "compiled" meant optimized byte code that
was portable across implementations, but it looks to not be the case...
Hi,
..pyc's should be, cause it's standard python-bytecode, if you use 
massive optimizations it depends not on the os but on the underlying 
cpu/architecture ...

So long, Roland

You probably tried to use a bytecode file from *one* version of Python 
with an interpreter of another version. Python actually checks the 
first four bytes of the .pyc file for a compatible "magic number" 
before accepting the file for execution.

regards
 Steve

Aha!  Exactly ... and that makes perfect sense too.  D'oh!  I guess a 
better
distribution strategy would be to have the installation program generate 
the pyo
file at installation time...

Thanks -
That's what most sensible distributions do.
regards
 Steve
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Re: Generating .pyc/.pyo from a make file

2005-02-02 Thread Tim Daneliuk
Steve Holden wrote:
Roland Heiber wrote:
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
It does - thanks.  One more question:  Are pyc and pyo file portable
across operating systems?  I suspect not since I generated a pyo
on a FreeBSD machine that will not run on a Win32 machine.  I was
under the impression that "compiled" meant optimized byte code that
was portable across implementations, but it looks to not be the case...
Hi,
..pyc's should be, cause it's standard python-bytecode, if you use 
massive optimizations it depends not on the os but on the underlying 
cpu/architecture ...

So long, Roland

You probably tried to use a bytecode file from *one* version of Python 
with an interpreter of another version. Python actually checks the first 
four bytes of the .pyc file for a compatible "magic number" before 
accepting the file for execution.

regards
 Steve
Aha!  Exactly ... and that makes perfect sense too.  D'oh!  I guess a better
distribution strategy would be to have the installation program generate the pyo
file at installation time...
Thanks -
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Re: Generating .pyc/.pyo from a make file

2005-02-02 Thread Steve Holden
Roland Heiber wrote:
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
It does - thanks.  One more question:  Are pyc and pyo file portable
across operating systems?  I suspect not since I generated a pyo
on a FreeBSD machine that will not run on a Win32 machine.  I was
under the impression that "compiled" meant optimized byte code that
was portable across implementations, but it looks to not be the case...
Hi,
..pyc's should be, cause it's standard python-bytecode, if you use 
massive optimizations it depends not on the os but on the underlying 
cpu/architecture ...

So long, Roland
You probably tried to use a bytecode file from *one* version of Python 
with an interpreter of another version. Python actually checks the first 
four bytes of the .pyc file for a compatible "magic number" before 
accepting the file for execution.

regards
 Steve
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Re: Generating .pyc/.pyo from a make file

2005-02-02 Thread Roland Heiber
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
It does - thanks.  One more question:  Are pyc and pyo file portable
across operating systems?  I suspect not since I generated a pyo
on a FreeBSD machine that will not run on a Win32 machine.  I was
under the impression that "compiled" meant optimized byte code that
was portable across implementations, but it looks to not be the case...
Hi,
.pyc's should be, cause it's standard python-bytecode, if you use 
massive optimizations it depends not on the os but on the underlying 
cpu/architecture ...

So long, Roland
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Re: Generating .pyc/.pyo from a make file

2005-02-02 Thread Tim Daneliuk
Roland Heiber wrote:
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
I use a makefile to create distribution tarballs of freestanding Python
programs and their documentation.  I cannot seem to find the right
command line option to just generate a pyc/pyo file from the program
and then exit.  If I use 'python - -c"import myprog"' it creates
the pyo file, but myprog starts up and keeps running.
IOW, I need a batch method for generating compiled python.  I know it
exists, but I can't find it for some reason ...
TIA,
Hi,
take a look at http://docs.python.org/lib/module-compileall.html
HtH, Roland
It does - thanks.  One more question:  Are pyc and pyo file portable
across operating systems?  I suspect not since I generated a pyo
on a FreeBSD machine that will not run on a Win32 machine.  I was
under the impression that "compiled" meant optimized byte code that
was portable across implementations, but it looks to not be the case...
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Re: Generating .pyc/.pyo from a make file

2005-02-02 Thread Roland Heiber
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
I use a makefile to create distribution tarballs of freestanding Python
programs and their documentation.  I cannot seem to find the right
command line option to just generate a pyc/pyo file from the program
and then exit.  If I use 'python - -c"import myprog"' it creates
the pyo file, but myprog starts up and keeps running.
IOW, I need a batch method for generating compiled python.  I know it
exists, but I can't find it for some reason ...
TIA,
Hi,
take a look at http://docs.python.org/lib/module-compileall.html
HtH, Roland
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Generating .pyc/.pyo from a make file

2005-02-02 Thread Tim Daneliuk
I use a makefile to create distribution tarballs of freestanding Python
programs and their documentation.  I cannot seem to find the right
command line option to just generate a pyc/pyo file from the program
and then exit.  If I use 'python - -c"import myprog"' it creates
the pyo file, but myprog starts up and keeps running.
IOW, I need a batch method for generating compiled python.  I know it
exists, but I can't find it for some reason ...
TIA,
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