Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-04-05 Thread Thomas Gagne
Does the Python community think Microsoft's embrace is a good or bad thing?
James wrote:
http://www.gotdotnet.com/workspaces/workspace.aspx?id=ad7acff7-ab1e-4bcb-99c0-57ac5a3a9742
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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-04-05 Thread Tim Peters
[Thomas Gagne]
 Does the Python community think Microsoft's embrace is a good or bad thing?

All things in this world unfold exactly according to Guido's secret
Master Plan.  So it depends on whether you think Guido is good or bad.
 Members of the Python community are required to think Guido is good. 
Therefore all things that happen in this world are good.

I know, it takes a bit of practice to truly believe that wink.

not-mentioning-that-i-don't-feel-particularly-embraced-yet-ly y'rs  - tim
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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-04-05 Thread Ivan Van Laningham
Hi All--

Tim Peters wrote:
 
 not-mentioning-that-i-don't-feel-particularly-embraced-yet-ly y'rs  - tim
 

Don't worry, Tim.  You will.

it-only-takes-a-little-groupthink-exercise-ly y'rs,
Ivan

Meta:  1984-in-what-base-was-that?-ly y'rs,
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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-24 Thread Robin Becker
Thomas Heller wrote:

well that's nice, but I don't do blogs and certainly don't do M$
Passport logins which it seems the gotdotnet site requires.

Robin - we're too old for blogs ;-)
But I could download the thingie with Mozilla without logging in into
somewhere - although the bug tracker seems to require login.
Thomas
yes, but the simple download is a bit bare, I was hoping to find out 
more and then the passport login seems to come into play. Is there no 
other homepage somewhere? I assumed wsa www.ironpython.com, but that 
seems a bit out of date now. The mailing list seems to go to end of 
February so was looking for some recent back and forth.
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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-24 Thread Robin Becker
Luis M. Gonzalez wrote:
James wrote:
http://www.gotdotnet.com/workspaces/workspace.aspx?id=ad7acff7-ab1e-4bcb-99c0-57ac5a3a9742
This is what I get when I follow this link:
Operational Troubleshooting in Progress
I've been visiting ironpython's site all day long searching for news
but nothing...
Has anyone managed to download the new release?
If so please, would you email it to me at luismgz at gmail.com ??
I managed by clicking on the gotdotnet link and got a zip file OK.
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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-24 Thread Robert Kern
Robin Becker wrote:
yes, but the simple download is a bit bare, I was hoping to find out 
more and then the passport login seems to come into play. Is there no 
other homepage somewhere? I assumed wsa www.ironpython.com, but that 
seems a bit out of date now. The mailing list seems to go to end of 
February so was looking for some recent back and forth.
Jim has a predilection towards keeping mum for a while so he can make 
big announcements at his conference talks. Once you know that about his 
character, the rest falls into place.

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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-24 Thread Robin Becker
Robert Kern wrote:
Robin Becker wrote:
yes, but the simple download is a bit bare, I was hoping to find out 
more and then the passport login seems to come into play. Is there no 
other homepage somewhere? I assumed wsa www.ironpython.com, but that 
seems a bit out of date now. The mailing list seems to go to end of 
February so was looking for some recent back and forth.

Jim has a predilection towards keeping mum for a while so he can make 
big announcements at his conference talks. Once you know that about his 
character, the rest falls into place.

apparently he announced at 1800 PST on the list, but I note he's 
directing bug reports to the gotdotnet site :(

I just have this thing about M$ and passport etc etc
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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-24 Thread Josef Meile
well that's nice, but I don't do blogs and certainly don't do M$ 
Passport logins which it seems the gotdotnet site requires.
I agree, even for reading the FAQ and the Readme you need a password :-(
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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-24 Thread Benjamin Niemann
Ville Vainio wrote:

 Robin == Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
 
 Robin well that's nice, but I don't do blogs and certainly don't
 
 You don't need to do much - just go to planetpython.org
 
Or check out the Daily Python URL (http://www.pythonware.com/daily/) which
has a pretty high signal to noise ratio.

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IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-23 Thread James
http://www.gotdotnet.com/workspaces/workspace.aspx?id=ad7acff7-ab1e-4bcb-99c0-57ac5a3a9742

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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-23 Thread James
François Pinard emailed me that my posting of the link with no
explanation appeared rude.

So here is a some information.



IronPython is a Python implementation targeting the .NET and Mono
platforms from the same person who brought us Jython,  Jim Hugunin. MS
hired Jim since the first release (0.6) and this is the first and
eagerly awaited release since then.

Now if I hear something about the state of StarKiller, it would make my
day complete :-).

From the release

 IronPython is the code name of the early pre-alpha preview release of
the new Implementation Running on .NET of the Python programming
language. The .NET Framework is a managed programming model for
Windows; Microsoft standardized part of it in ECMA  several years ago
as the Common Language Infrastructure and C# Language Specification
standards.

IronPython is fast - up to 1.8x faster than Python-2.4 on the standard
pystone benchmark. It supports an interactive interpreter with fully
dynamic compilation. It is well integrated with the rest of the
framework and makes all .NET libraries easily available to Python
programmers.

IronPython 0.7 is a pre-alpha release. It is suitable for experimenting
and playing with; however, a large amount of testing, packaging and
library development remains to be done before a production-quality
IronPython-1.0.  We want to be sure to release IronPython in this early
state in order to encourage feedback and discussion in the community of
IronPython's features and designs as early as possible so that we can
incorporate that into the 1.0 design.



Also see
Boo
Boo is a new object oriented statically typed programming language for
the Common Language Infrastructure with a python inspired syntax and a
special focus on language and compiler extensibility.
http://boo.codehaus.org/

Python for .NET
Python for .NET is a near-seamless integration of the Python runtime
with the .NET Common Language Runtime (CLR). It lets you script and
build applications in Python, using CLR services and components written
in any language that targets the CLR (C#, Managed C++, VB.NET, etc.).
www.zope.org/Members/Brian/PythonNet

James.

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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-23 Thread Do Re Mi chel La Si Do
Hi !


I am curious :

1)I can't download the file (error in the GotDotNet system).
2)   On http://ironpython.com, there are no new version


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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-23 Thread Ville Vainio
 fphsml == James  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

fphsml 
http://www.gotdotnet.com/workspaces/workspace.aspx?id=ad7acff7-ab1e-4bcb-99c0-57ac5a3a9742

Apparently they are also going to put out a release every 2 weeks
until 1.0 is out. Great news for those who were afraid the project is
dead due to silence...

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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-23 Thread Robin Becker
Do Re Mi chel La Si Do wrote:
Hi !
I am curious :
1)I can't download the file (error in the GotDotNet system).
2)   On http://ironpython.com, there are no new version

I'm also a bit puzzled that www.ironpython.com has no mention of this 
release.
Curious that J Hugunin didn't announce it himself.
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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-23 Thread Benjamin Niemann
Robin Becker wrote:

 Do Re Mi chel La Si Do wrote:
 Hi !
 
 
 I am curious :
 
 1)I can't download the file (error in the GotDotNet system).
 2)   On http://ironpython.com, there are no new version
 
 
 
 I'm also a bit puzzled that www.ironpython.com has no mention of this
 release.
 Curious that J Hugunin didn't announce it himself.
Jim Hugunin announced it himself in a keynote at PyCon. You can read a lot
about it on Python centric blogs - just one example:
http://www.postneo.com/2005/03/23/keynote-ironpython

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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-23 Thread Robin Becker
Benjamin Niemann wrote:
Robin Becker wrote:
..
I'm also a bit puzzled that www.ironpython.com has no mention of this
release.
Curious that J Hugunin didn't announce it himself.
Jim Hugunin announced it himself in a keynote at PyCon. You can read a lot
about it on Python centric blogs - just one example:
http://www.postneo.com/2005/03/23/keynote-ironpython
well that's nice, but I don't do blogs and certainly don't do M$ 
Passport logins which it seems the gotdotnet site requires.

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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-23 Thread Luis M. Gonzalez

James wrote:

http://www.gotdotnet.com/workspaces/workspace.aspx?id=ad7acff7-ab1e-4bcb-99c0-57ac5a3a9742

This is what I get when I follow this link:
Operational Troubleshooting in Progress

I've been visiting ironpython's site all day long searching for news
but nothing...
Has anyone managed to download the new release?
If so please, would you email it to me at luismgz at gmail.com ??

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Re: IronPython 0.7 released!

2005-03-23 Thread Ville Vainio
 Robin == Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Robin well that's nice, but I don't do blogs and certainly don't

You don't need to do much - just go to planetpython.org

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