Re: Is email package thread safe? (fwd)

2005-02-12 Thread Roman Suzi
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 2005-02-09, Roman Suzi schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 2005-02-09, Roman Suzi schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Just to be sure, is email package of Python 2.3 thread-safe or not
(to use, for example, in python-milter?)

Can I assume that everything
else without such notice is thread-safe?
I doubt it. There is no indication that the email package uses any
kind of locking. So multiple thread working on the same message
will probably screw things up.
Of course, I do not let threads to work on the same message!
Why should that be: off course? The random module you spoke about
was also only thread unsafe if you called the same random generator
from various threads. Using a randon generator per thread shouldn't
have been a problem. Since you mentioned that, I thought that was
the kind of thread safety you were after.
I meant that the package doesn't pose other kinds of restrictions.
Can it work in _any_ situation work on two different messages at the same
time, without any interference?
I can't give a guarantee, but there are no global statements and there
doesn't seem to be assignments to cross module variables I think it
would be a safe bet.
Thanks to all who discussed this. Really, I had the same thoughts about
1:1 object-thread relation being thread safe. I am doing further research and
if it will give interesting results, I shall post [solved] here.
Sincerely yours, Roman Suzi
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Re: Is email package thread safe? (fwd)

2005-02-10 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 2005-02-09, Roman Suzi schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Antoon Pardon wrote:

 Op 2005-02-09, Roman Suzi schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Just to be sure, is email package of Python 2.3 thread-safe or not
 (to use, for example, in python-milter?)

 Can I assume that everything
 else without such notice is thread-safe?

 I doubt it. There is no indication that the email package uses any
 kind of locking. So multiple thread working on the same message
 will probably screw things up.

 Of course, I do not let threads to work on the same message!

Why should that be: off course? The random module you spoke about
was also only thread unsafe if you called the same random generator
from various threads. Using a randon generator per thread shouldn't
have been a problem. Since you mentioned that, I thought that was
the kind of thread safety you were after.

 I meant that the package doesn't pose other kinds of restrictions.
 Can it work in _any_ situation work on two different messages at the same 
 time, without any interference?

I can't give a guarantee, but there are no global statements and there
doesn't seem to be assignments to cross module variables I think it
would be a safe bet.

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Is email package thread safe? (fwd)

2005-02-09 Thread Roman Suzi
(this is a repost with an addition - probably noone noticed my message first 
time)

Hi!
Just to be sure, is email package of Python 2.3 thread-safe or not
(to use, for example, in python-milter?)
P.S. And where can I find information on particular piece of standard library
if it is thread-safe or need locking? I recall 'random' module is (was?)
unsafe - which isexplicitly stated in the docs. Can I assume that everything 
else without such notice is thread-safe?

Sincerely yours,
Roman A.Souzi
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Re: Is email package thread safe? (fwd)

2005-02-09 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Usually, oo-style apis are thread-safe as long as each thread uses its own
objects. Shared global state is _very_ uncommon, and if it's most probably
documented.

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Re: Is email package thread safe? (fwd)

2005-02-09 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 2005-02-09, Roman Suzi schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 (this is a repost with an addition - probably noone noticed my message first 
 time)

 Hi!

 Just to be sure, is email package of Python 2.3 thread-safe or not
 (to use, for example, in python-milter?)

 P.S. And where can I find information on particular piece of standard library
 if it is thread-safe or need locking? I recall 'random' module is (was?)
 unsafe - which isexplicitly stated in the docs.

Well I guess it was unsafe. The current documentation states:

  The underlying implementation in C is both fast and threadsafe. 

http://www.python.org/doc/2.3.5/lib/module-random.html

There is class for random number generation that is not thread safe
and is included to allow reproducing sequences from previous versions.

 Can I assume that everything 
 else without such notice is thread-safe?

I doubt it. There is no indication that the email package uses any
kind of locking. So multiple thread working on the same message
will probably screw things up.

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Re: Is email package thread safe? (fwd)

2005-02-09 Thread Roman Suzi
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 2005-02-09, Roman Suzi schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Just to be sure, is email package of Python 2.3 thread-safe or not
(to use, for example, in python-milter?)

Can I assume that everything
else without such notice is thread-safe?
I doubt it. There is no indication that the email package uses any
kind of locking. So multiple thread working on the same message
will probably screw things up.
Of course, I do not let threads to work on the same message!
I meant that the package doesn't pose other kinds of restrictions.
Can it work in _any_ situation work on two different messages at the same 
time, without any interference?

Sincerely yours, Roman Suzi
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