Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[Anssi Saari]

"W. eWatson"  writes:

> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
> 2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you
> right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?

I don't have 2.7.2, but my Windows (7, 32 bit) machine has 3.2 installed
and also 2.6.6 included in Python(x,y) distribution.

Right clicking on a .py has, under Open with, the choices GNU
Emacsclient (my choice for editing), python.exe and pythonw.exe. No
Idle.

I was able to add idle to the menu it by clicking "Choose default
program" in the menu and pointing that to idle.bat.
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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[W. eWatson]

On 11/19/2011 5:51 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:

Works fine for me from msi install on Windows 8 x64 Dev Preview

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:06 AM, W. eWatson  wrote:

Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop
the same way under Win 7.

One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of 2.7.2
has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you right-click
on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?
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Are you suggesting the mail list might be a better place to pursue this? 
Or is it from some one else?

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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[W. eWatson]

On 11/19/2011 5:51 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:

Works fine for me from msi install on Windows 8 x64 Dev Preview

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:06 AM, W. eWatson  wrote:

Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop
the same way under Win 7.

One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of 2.7.2
has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you right-click
on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?
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3.2.2, and not 2.7.2. The course of the thread was changed at the MRAB 
post.


What do you mean by it works fine? My criterion is that it puts IDLE as 
a choice for editor on the menu produced with a right-click on a py file.

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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[W. eWatson]

On 11/19/2011 2:34 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:

On 11/18/2011 6:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:


Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
flop the same way under Win 7.

One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described. That is, if you
right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?


Terry Reedy has already said that his installation works fine.

"I installed 3.3.2 on a new Win 7 machine and Edit with IDLE works fine."


64 bit python and 64 bit win 7


If you have installed the regular, 32-bit version of Python on a 64-bit
version of Windows, chances are good that there will be registry problems
stopping things from working correctly. See Stephen Hansen's post.







Yes, see the other fork started by MRAB I tried it. Same old problem.
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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[W. eWatson]

On 11/19/2011 2:39 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:

On 11/19/2011 12:03 AM, W. eWatson wrote:

I meant 3.2.2, not 3.3.2, sorry for typo.


* Python 3.2.2 Windows x86 MSI Installer (Windows binary -- does not
include source)


this is 32 bit. Note that your c: has /program files for 64 bit programs
and /program files(x86) for 32 bit programs. I know, a bit confusing.


* Python 3.2.2 Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (Windows AMD64 / Intel 64 /
X86-64 binary [1] -- does not include source)


this is 64 bit.


Yes. Did I miss something?
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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[Alec Taylor]

Works fine for me from msi install on Windows 8 x64 Dev Preview

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:06 AM, W. eWatson  wrote:
> Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop
> the same way under Win 7.
>
> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of 2.7.2
> has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you right-click
> on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?
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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[Terry Reedy]

On 11/19/2011 12:03 AM, W. eWatson wrote:

I meant 3.2.2, not 3.3.2, sorry for typo.


* Python 3.2.2 Windows x86 MSI Installer (Windows binary -- does not
include source)


this is 32 bit. Note that your c: has /program files for 64 bit programs 
and /program files(x86) for 32 bit programs. I know, a bit confusing.



* Python 3.2.2 Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (Windows AMD64 / Intel 64 /
X86-64 binary [1] -- does not include source)


this is 64 bit.

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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[Terry Reedy]

On 11/18/2011 6:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:


Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
flop the same way under Win 7.

One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you
right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?


Terry Reedy has already said that his installation works fine.

"I installed 3.3.2 on a new Win 7 machine and Edit with IDLE works fine."


64 bit python and 64 bit win 7


If you have installed the regular, 32-bit version of Python on a 64-bit
version of Windows, chances are good that there will be registry problems
stopping things from working correctly. See Stephen Hansen's post.






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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[W. eWatson]

On 11/18/2011 9:03 PM, W. eWatson wrote:

...


3.3.2? I do not see that in his single message I found. I see a 3.2.2
release on . Google
shows me nothing for 3.3.2.

I see:
* Windows x86 MSI Installer (3.2.2) (sig) and Visual Studio debug
information files (sig)
* Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2) [1] (sig) and Visual Studio debug
information files (sig)

Visual Studio I hope I don't need VS!


If you look more closely you'll see that there are 5 links on each line:

Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)
[1]
(sig)
Visual Studio debug information files
(sig)

Unless you intending to work on the sources, you need just the first
one:

Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)

for a 64-bit build of Python 3.2.2.


An oddity occurs here. Yes, x86-64 is the right installer, maybe. While
noting your msg, my PC got very slow, and I ended up going to a related
site for the downloads of 3.2.2 while trying for the one above.
.

It shows:
Also look at the detailed Python 3.2.2 page:

* Python 3.2.2 Windows x86 MSI Installer (Windows binary -- does not
include source)
* Python 3.2.2 Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (Windows AMD64 / Intel 64 /
X86-64 binary [1] -- does not include source)

The first of the two choices does not say x-bit anything. The second
looks off course for my HP 64-bit PC.

I'm going to just use Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2).

Wait a minute Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2). Windows X86-64 MSI
Installer (3.2.2) shows it's associated with Visual Studio. Why would I
want that? Ah, I get it The single first line has Windows X86-64 MSI
Installer (3.2.2) and Visual Studio. That's a really weird way to
arrange them. OK, now off to Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)

I'll be back shortly after I've made the install.


I surrender. IDLE does not appear as a choice when I right-click on a py 
file.


IDLE is on the All Programs list, and if I click on it, something more 
or less seems to happen, but it does not reveal anything. There is a 
comparability choice there that asks what OS did it last run on. 
Unfortunately the choices were VISTA (service packs) and Win7. I 
selected Win7 but it didn't help. Off to bed soon.

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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[W. eWatson]

...


3.3.2? I do not see that in his single message I found. I see a 3.2.2
release on . Google
shows me nothing for 3.3.2.

I see:
* Windows x86 MSI Installer (3.2.2) (sig) and Visual Studio debug
information files (sig)
* Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2) [1] (sig) and Visual Studio debug
information files (sig)

Visual Studio I hope I don't need VS!


If you look more closely you'll see that there are 5 links on each line:

Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)
[1]
(sig)
Visual Studio debug information files
(sig)

Unless you intending to work on the sources, you need just the first
one:

Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)

for a 64-bit build of Python 3.2.2.


An oddity occurs here. Yes, x86-64 is the right installer, maybe. While 
noting your msg, my PC got very slow, and I ended up going to a related 
site for the downloads of 3.2.2 while trying for the one above. 
.


It shows:
Also look at the detailed Python 3.2.2 page:

* Python 3.2.2 Windows x86 MSI Installer (Windows binary -- does 
not include source)
* Python 3.2.2 Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (Windows AMD64 / Intel 
64 / X86-64 binary [1] -- does not include source)


The first of the two choices does not say x-bit anything. The second 
looks off course for my HP 64-bit PC.


I'm going to just use Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2).

Wait a minute Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2). Windows X86-64 MSI 
Installer (3.2.2) shows it's associated with Visual Studio.  Why would I 
want that? Ah, I get it The single first line has Windows X86-64 MSI 
Installer (3.2.2) and Visual Studio.  That's a really weird way to 
arrange them. OK, now off to Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)


I'll be back shortly after I've made the install.
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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[Steven D'Aprano]

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:31:03 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:

> Somehow 3.3.2 doesn't look like 2.7.2.

Oops, so you're right. Sorry for the noise.

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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[MRAB]

On 19/11/2011 00:50, W. eWatson wrote:

On 11/18/2011 4:31 PM, W. eWatson wrote:

On 11/18/2011 3:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:


Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
flop the same way under Win 7.

One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described. That is, if you
right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?


Terry Reedy has already said that his installation works fine.

"I installed 3.3.2 on a new Win 7 machine and Edit with IDLE works
fine."


If you have installed the regular, 32-bit version of Python on a 64-bit
version of Windows, chances are good that there will be registry
problems
stopping things from working correctly. See Stephen Hansen's post.




Somehow 3.3.2 doesn't look like 2.7.2.

Ah, I installed a 32-bit. Missed his post. So what should I do? Try
3.3.2 64-bit? I'm game. By the time you read this, I will either have
done it or gotten into it.


3.3.2? I do not see that in his single message I found. I see a 3.2.2
release on . Google
shows me nothing for 3.3.2.

I see:
* Windows x86 MSI Installer (3.2.2) (sig) and Visual Studio debug
information files (sig)
* Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2) [1] (sig) and Visual Studio debug
information files (sig)

Visual Studio I hope I don't need VS!


If you look more closely you'll see that there are 5 links on each line:

Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)
[1]
(sig)
Visual Studio debug information files
(sig)

Unless you intending to work on the sources, you need just the first
one:

Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)

for a 64-bit build of Python 3.2.2.
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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[W. eWatson]

On 11/18/2011 4:31 PM, W. eWatson wrote:

On 11/18/2011 3:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:


Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
flop the same way under Win 7.

One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described. That is, if you
right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?


Terry Reedy has already said that his installation works fine.

"I installed 3.3.2 on a new Win 7 machine and Edit with IDLE works fine."


If you have installed the regular, 32-bit version of Python on a 64-bit
version of Windows, chances are good that there will be registry problems
stopping things from working correctly. See Stephen Hansen's post.




Somehow 3.3.2 doesn't look like 2.7.2.

Ah, I installed a 32-bit. Missed his post. So what should I do? Try
3.3.2 64-bit? I'm game. By the time you read this, I will either have
done it or gotten into it.


3.3.2? I do not see that in his single message I found. I see a 3.2.2 
release on . Google 
shows me nothing for 3.3.2.


I see:
* Windows x86 MSI Installer (3.2.2) (sig) and Visual Studio debug 
information files (sig)
* Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2) [1] (sig) and Visual Studio 
debug information files (sig)


Visual Studio  I hope I don't need VS!
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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[W. eWatson]

On 11/18/2011 3:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:


Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
flop the same way under Win 7.

One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you
right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?


Terry Reedy has already said that his installation works fine.

"I installed 3.3.2 on a new Win 7 machine and Edit with IDLE works fine."


If you have installed the regular, 32-bit version of Python on a 64-bit
version of Windows, chances are good that there will be registry problems
stopping things from working correctly. See Stephen Hansen's post.




Somehow 3.3.2 doesn't look like 2.7.2.

Ah, I installed a 32-bit.  Missed his post. So what should I do? Try 
3.3.2 64-bit? I'm game. By the time you read this, I will either have 
done it or gotten into it.

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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[Steven D'Aprano]

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:

> Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
> flop the same way under Win 7.
> 
> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
> 2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you
> right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?

Terry Reedy has already said that his installation works fine.

"I installed 3.3.2 on a new Win 7 machine and Edit with IDLE works fine."


If you have installed the regular, 32-bit version of Python on a 64-bit 
version of Windows, chances are good that there will be registry problems 
stopping things from working correctly. See Stephen Hansen's post.



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Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[W. eWatson]

On 11/18/2011 10:06 AM, W. eWatson wrote:

Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
flop the same way under Win 7.

One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described. That is, if you
right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?


Try it on Win 7.
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Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

[W. eWatson]

Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 
flop the same way under Win 7.


One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of 
2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you 
right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?

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