RE: Visual Python programming and decompilers?
Ludolph, This reminds me of the orange project which is developed in python. http://www.ailab.si/orange/ It is actually for data mining, but many of the concepts could be used for a more general programming structure. Billy -Original Message- From: python-list-bounces+billy.earney=gmail@python.org [mailto:python-list-bounces+billy.earney=gmail@python.org] On Behalf Of Ludolph Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:39 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Visual Python programming and decompilers? Hi Guys At work I have been exposed to a Agile Platform called OutSystems. It allows you to visually program your web applications http://i.imgur.com/r2F0i.png and I find the idea very intriguing. So I have started to play around with the idea on how will I be able to visually represent Python code as in the above image and then allow the programmer to change some of the flow/code/logic visually and then get it back as python source code. I don't know if this have been tried before and after some googling I can't find anything like this, so maybe I'm just lacking basic googling skills or a python solution like the above does not exist yet. If anybody knows of such solution please let me know, so that I don't spend a lot of time recreating the wheel. Otherwise help me out on the following problem: I decided I can use byteplay3 http://pypi.python.org/pypi/byteplay/ to disassemble the code to workable objects, It even allows me to rebuild the objects to bytecode. So if I define patterns on how python interrupts the source code to bytecode I can visually represent this and also so convert my visual representations back to bytecode. The only problem I have at the moment is how will I get this bytecode back to python source code. I have googled for python decompiler but only found old projects like unpyc, decompyle and some online services. I would like to know if anybody know of a well maintained or at least recent module that can help me accomplish the above mentioned, because I'm hoping I can implement this in Python 3.1. So any input or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards, -- Ludolph Neethling -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Visual Python programming and decompilers?
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 20:38 +0200, Ludolph wrote: I decided I can use byteplay3 http://pypi.python.org/pypi/byteplay/ to disassemble the code to workable objects, It even allows me to rebuild the objects to bytecode. So if I define patterns on how python interrupts the source code to bytecode I can visually represent this and also so convert my visual representations back to bytecode. Assuming you're on 2.6 or later, I'd suggest working with the ast module instead: http://docs.python.org/library/ast.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Visual Python programming and decompilers?
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Ludolph ludo...@openhazel.co.za wrote: Hi Guys At work I have been exposed to a Agile Platform called OutSystems. It allows you to visually program your web applications http://i.imgur.com/r2F0i.png and I find the idea very intriguing. So I have started to play around with the idea on how will I be able to visually represent Python code as in the above image and then allow the programmer to change some of the flow/code/logic visually and then get it back as python source code. I don't know if this have been tried before and after some googling I can't find anything like this, so maybe I'm just lacking basic googling skills or a python solution like the above does not exist yet. If anybody knows of such solution please let me know, so that I don't spend a lot of time recreating the wheel. Otherwise help me out on the following problem: I decided I can use byteplay3 http://pypi.python.org/pypi/byteplay/ to disassemble the code to workable objects, It even allows me to rebuild the objects to bytecode. So if I define patterns on how python interrupts the source code to bytecode I can visually represent this and also so convert my visual representations back to bytecode. The only problem I have at the moment is how will I get this bytecode back to python source code. I have googled for python decompiler but only found old projects like unpyc, decompyle and some online services. I would like to know if anybody know of a well maintained or at least recent module that can help me accomplish the above mentioned, because I'm hoping I can implement this in Python 3.1. So any input or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards, -- Ludolph Neethling -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Maybe something like http://www.pypes.org/? They were at pycon and sounded pretty into what they were talking about- I'd send them an email. Geremy Condra -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Visual Python programming and decompilers?
On 11-03-2010 19:38, Ludolph wrote: Hi Guys At work I have been exposed to a Agile Platform called OutSystems. It allows you to visually program your web applications http://i.imgur.com/r2F0i.png and I find the idea very intriguing. Although not as low level as you want, http://mientki.ruhosting.nl/data_www/pylab_works/pw_animations_screenshots.html http://code.google.com/p/pylab-works/ and here an overview of similar packages cheers, Stef -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
