Re: Don't feed the help-vampire

2013-06-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:09 AM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since identifying a disease by the right name is key to finding a
 cure:
 Nikos is not trolling or spamming; he is help-vampiring.

I think he's a very dedicated troll elaborately disguised as a help
vampire.  Remember that one of the names he previously used to post to
this list was Ferrous Cranus.

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm
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Re: Don't feed the help-vampire

2013-06-14 Thread rusi
On Jun 14, 4:51 pm, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jun 14, 3:20 pm, Fábio Santos fabiosantos...@gmail.com wrote:

   Come on now, this is _so_ obviously trolling, it's not even remotely

  funny anymore. Why doesn't killfiling work with the mailing list version of
  the python list? :-(

  I have skimmed the archives for this month, and I estimate that a third of
  this month's activity on this list was helping this person. About 80% of
  that is wasted in explaining basic concepts he refuses to read in links
  given to him. A depressingly large number of replies to his posts are
  seemingly ignored.

  Since this is a lot of spam, I feel like leaving the list, but I also
  honestly want to help people use python and the replies to questions of
  others often give me much insight on several matters.

 Adding my +1 to this sentiment.

Since identifying a disease by the right name is key to finding a
cure:
Nikos is not trolling or spamming; he is help-vampiring.

Lets call it that.
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Re: Don't feed the help-vampire

2013-06-14 Thread Heiko Wundram

Am 14.06.2013 14:09, schrieb rusi:

Since identifying a disease by the right name is key to finding a
cure:
Nikos is not trolling or spamming; he is help-vampiring.


Just to explain the trolling allegation: I'm not talking about him 
wanting to get his scripts fixed, that's help-vampiring most certainly, 
and an extreme form of that (thanks btw. for pointing me to that term, 
whoever did).


I was talking about his repeated attempts at making conversation by 
asking questions about encoding, short-circuit evaluation and such which 
seem like they are relevant for him to solve his problem, but due to his 
persistence of understanding things in a wrong way/not understanding 
them at all/repeating the same misunderstandings time after time have 
drifted off into endless repetitions of the same facts by helpful 
posters, and have gotten a lot of people seriously annoyed (also, due to 
other facts such as him changing his NNTP hosts and/or From-addresses 
which breaks kill-filing).


Now, if that latter behaviour isn't trolling, I don't know what is. 
Simply nobody who takes what he does at least a little bit serious is 
_as_ thick as he makes himself seem.


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