Re: Hacking in python

2007-02-12 Thread Gasten
On Feb 12, 1:18 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Feb 10, 5:25 pm, "Geoff Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The word "hack" can be known as a "smart/quick fix" to a problem.
>
> Giving the benefit of the doubt here, perhaps Enes Naci saw this
> article:http://www.hetland.org/python/instant-hacking.phpand got
> some strange idea about confusing programming with breaking into
> computer systems.  Maybe.

It's probably more likely that he have stumbled upon this:
http://wwwu.edu.uni-klu.ac.at/epirker/unix/hacker-howto.html , or any
other version (That's my favourite, by the way). It says that Python
is a good program to start with on the journey to become a hacker.

Gasten

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Re: Hacking in python

2007-02-11 Thread Marshillboy
On Feb 10, 5:25 pm, "Geoff Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The word "hack" can be known as a "smart/quick fix" to a problem.

Giving the benefit of the doubt here, perhaps Enes Naci saw this
article: http://www.hetland.org/python/instant-hacking.php and got
some strange idea about confusing programming with breaking into
computer systems.  Maybe.

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Re: Hacking in python

2007-02-10 Thread Geoff Hill
The word "hack" can be known as a "smart/quick fix" to a problem. 


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Re: Hacking in python

2007-02-10 Thread James Stroud
Calvin Spealman wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28disambiguation%29
> 
> Educate yourself on what hacking actually is. We're all hackers,
> because it just means we get the most out of code, enjoy pushing our
> technology to the limit, and generally love programming. The term has
> been abused by the media and you don't do much more than show your own
> naiveness by asking such a question. You also do a great job of
> insulting everyone on this list.
> 
> On 2/10/07, enes naci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>
>> i would like to know about hacking in python too whether its illegal
>> or not is not the point and anyway it doesn't mean i'm gong to use it.
>>
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Here is my favorite hacker how-to:

 http://www.datastronghold.com/content/view/555/27/

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Re: Hacking in python

2007-02-10 Thread Shawn Milo
On 2/10/07, Tina I <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> zefciu wrote:
> > enes naci wrote:
> >> i would like to know about hacking in python too whether its illegal or
> >> not is not the point and anyway it doesn't mean i'm gong to use it.
> >>
> >
> > If you mean hacking as modyfying the code of interpreter of libraries -
> > it is perfectly legal, as Python is Open Source.
> >
> > If you mean hacking as cracking into computer systems, then what's the
> > difference if it's with Python or anything else.
> >
> > If you mean hacking as gaining excellency in programming - then why
> > should it be?
> >
> > Greets
> > zefciu
> It's really sad. I saw this poor schmuck on "Want to be a millionaire"
> once. His second question was "What is a hacker?" I don't remember all
> of the alternatives but two of them was "A computer programmer" and
> "Someone illegally using a computer".
> He answered 'computer programmer'... guess what was the 'correct one'.
>
> I guess he was lucky though... it could have been the one million question.
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That's truly horrible. I would sue.
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Re: Hacking in python

2007-02-10 Thread Tina I
zefciu wrote:
> enes naci wrote:
>> i would like to know about hacking in python too whether its illegal or
>> not is not the point and anyway it doesn't mean i'm gong to use it.
>>
> 
> If you mean hacking as modyfying the code of interpreter of libraries -
> it is perfectly legal, as Python is Open Source.
> 
> If you mean hacking as cracking into computer systems, then what's the
> difference if it's with Python or anything else.
> 
> If you mean hacking as gaining excellency in programming - then why
> should it be?
> 
> Greets
> zefciu
It's really sad. I saw this poor schmuck on "Want to be a millionaire" 
once. His second question was "What is a hacker?" I don't remember all 
of the alternatives but two of them was "A computer programmer" and 
"Someone illegally using a computer".
He answered 'computer programmer'... guess what was the 'correct one'.

I guess he was lucky though... it could have been the one million question.
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Re: Hacking in python

2007-02-10 Thread Shawn Milo
On 2/10/07, hg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Calvin Spealman wrote:
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28disambiguation%29
> >
> > Educate yourself on what hacking actually is. We're all hackers,
> > because it just means we get the most out of code, enjoy pushing our
> > technology to the limit, and generally love programming. The term has
> > been abused by the media and you don't do much more than show your own
> > naiveness by asking such a question. You also do a great job of
> > insulting everyone on this list.
> >
> > On 2/10/07, enes naci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> i would like to know about hacking in python too whether its illegal
> >> or not is not the point and anyway it doesn't mean i'm gong to use it.
> >>
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> >
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> > http://ironfroggy-code.blogspot.com/
>
>
> So that was that weird feeling I felt ... insulted
>
> hg
>
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I'm surprised you all didn't just tell him how to become a hacker.
That's what he wants, right?

Here's the hacker info. Enjoy!

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

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Re: Hacking in python

2007-02-10 Thread hg
Calvin Spealman wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28disambiguation%29
> 
> Educate yourself on what hacking actually is. We're all hackers,
> because it just means we get the most out of code, enjoy pushing our
> technology to the limit, and generally love programming. The term has
> been abused by the media and you don't do much more than show your own
> naiveness by asking such a question. You also do a great job of
> insulting everyone on this list.
> 
> On 2/10/07, enes naci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> i would like to know about hacking in python too whether its illegal
>> or not is not the point and anyway it doesn't mean i'm gong to use it.
>>
>> --
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>>
> 
> 
> --
> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am interesting!
> http://ironfroggy-code.blogspot.com/


So that was that weird feeling I felt ... insulted

hg

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Re: Hacking in python

2007-02-10 Thread zefciu
enes naci wrote:
> 
> i would like to know about hacking in python too whether its illegal or
> not is not the point and anyway it doesn't mean i'm gong to use it.
> 

If you mean hacking as modyfying the code of interpreter of libraries -
it is perfectly legal, as Python is Open Source.

If you mean hacking as cracking into computer systems, then what's the
difference if it's with Python or anything else.

If you mean hacking as gaining excellency in programming - then why
should it be?

Greets
zefciu
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Re: Hacking in python

2007-02-10 Thread Paul Hummer
enes naci wrote:
> i would like to know about hacking in python too whether its illegal  
> or not is not the point and anyway it doesn't mean i'm gong to use it.
>
>   
Does your mom know you're using her computer to take down the
government?  I'm gonna tell on you!
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Re: Hacking in python

2007-02-10 Thread Calvin Spealman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28disambiguation%29

Educate yourself on what hacking actually is. We're all hackers,
because it just means we get the most out of code, enjoy pushing our
technology to the limit, and generally love programming. The term has
been abused by the media and you don't do much more than show your own
naiveness by asking such a question. You also do a great job of
insulting everyone on this list.

On 2/10/07, enes naci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i would like to know about hacking in python too whether its illegal
> or not is not the point and anyway it doesn't mean i'm gong to use it.
>
> --
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>


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