Re: Please don't make unfounded legalistic demands (was: [a, b, c, d] = 1, 2, 3, 4)
On 8/26/2015 2:14 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2015-08-26, Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com wrote: On 8/26/2015 9:06 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: It's also unfortunate that there's no way to to access the mailing list via an NNTP server Huh? -- gmane.comp.python.general at news://nntp.gmane.com:119/gmane.comp.python.general Or do you mean by the OP? I guess I should have used the old sarcasm tag. :) Damn -- It feels like April 1st all over again. :) Emile -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Please don't make unfounded legalistic demands (was: [a, b, c, d] = 1, 2, 3, 4)
I wish I could, problem is, if the mail recipient is within the company, no legal boilerplate is added making the joke fall flat. What if you could send all your mail to another address on a server you control, or can at least run programs on? Could you configure all your outgoing mail to include the actual recipient list in brackets in the subject line, rather than in the To: field? So, your outgoing SMTP message, instead of looking like: From: jeanmic...@sequans.com To: Foo Barbaz f.bar...@foobarbaz.com, python-list@python.org Subject: Please don't make blahblahblah I wish I could, but I can't, ergo I won't TOP SECRET EMAIL MESSAGE WITH DIRE CONSEQUENCES FOR WANDERING EYES might look more like: From: jeanmic...@sequans.com To: otheremailaddress@serveryoucontrol_or_canatleastrunprogramson.com Subject: [Foo Barbaz f.bar...@foobarbaz.com, python-list@python.org] Please don't make blahblahblah I wish I could, but I can't, ergo I won't TOP SECRET EMAIL MESSAGE WITH DIRE CONSEQUENCES FOR WANDERING EYES? Then could you use pass the message through a script that uses email.message_from_string() https://docs.python.org/3/library/email.parser.html#email.message_from_string to create an email.message object, remove the delivery cruft by calling email.message.__delitem__('Received') on it, recreate the actual To: field with some to_list = [email.utils.parseaddr https://docs.python.org/3/library/email.util.html(x) for x in string_in_brackets_in_subject] hackery, do a quick strained_string = re.sub https://docs.python.org/3/library/re.html('TOP SECRET EMAIL MESSAGE WITH DIRE CONSEQUENCES FOR WANDERING EYES', '', modifed.email.message.as_string())? Could you then send that off? This is not a privileged message. If you're reading this, it could be because this is just a text file without any implied security or privacy capacity. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Please don't make unfounded legalistic demands (was: [a, b, c, d] = 1, 2, 3, 4)
- Original Message - From: Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com Cc: python-list@python.org Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2015 6:11:51 PM Subject: Re: Please don't make unfounded legalistic demands (was: [a, b, c, d] = 1, 2, 3, 4) On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 1:09 AM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: How about instead you augment your signature with Please ignore the boilerplate below. Heh, I like this! Or: -- BOILERPLATE TROPHY COLLECTION I am a collector of stupid legal boilerplate. Here's my latest acquisition: Then let your legal guys see one of your posts. Maybe they'll relent and let you not post it any more. ChrisA I wish I could, problem is, if the mail recipient is within the company, no legal boilerplate is added making the joke fall flat. Nice suggestion though. I may send it to my IT guys though, I'm sure they'll have a good laugh :) JM -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Please don't make unfounded legalistic demands (was: [a, b, c, d] = 1, 2, 3, 4)
On Wednesday 26 August 2015 11:09:18 Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/26/2015 5:02 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: - Original Message - From: Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. Misleading, intimidating, hostile nonsense. Agreed. If you want to participate here, please do so from a mail system which does not make these legalistic demands. I disagree with prohibiting people encumbered by such systems from participating. So do I Terry, but how many years will it take to convince corporate legal people that hanging that in a sig is a waste of time bandwidth. AFAIK, no court on _this_ planet has ever upheld the meaning of such a notice. All the legal beagles have to keep their presence on the payroll justified I guess. I agree with you. Unfortunately my request for removing this nonsense has been denied by my employer. To the point where I'm restrincting myself from posting from time to time. I will probably restrict myself even more. Please do not restrict yourself further. We'll ignore it (or the fussier amoung us should learn to tolerate it) just like we've been ignoring it for at least 20 years now. How about instead you augment your signature with Please ignore the boilerplate below. JM -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- Terry Jan Reedy Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Please don't make unfounded legalistic demands (was: [a, b, c, d] = 1, 2, 3, 4)
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 1:09 AM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: How about instead you augment your signature with Please ignore the boilerplate below. Heh, I like this! Or: -- BOILERPLATE TROPHY COLLECTION I am a collector of stupid legal boilerplate. Here's my latest acquisition: Then let your legal guys see one of your posts. Maybe they'll relent and let you not post it any more. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Please don't make unfounded legalistic demands (was: [a, b, c, d] = 1, 2, 3, 4)
On 2015-08-26, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: On 8/26/2015 5:02 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: Misleading, intimidating, hostile nonsense. Agreed. If you want to participate here, please do so from a mail system which does not make these legalistic demands. I disagree with prohibiting people encumbered by such systems from participating. I agree with you. Unfortunately my request for removing this nonsense has been denied by my employer. To the point where I'm restrincting myself from posting from time to time. I will probably restrict myself even more. How about instead you augment your signature with Please ignore the boilerplate below. It's too bad there's just no way to get an email account other than through your employer. It's also unfortunate that there's no way to to access the mailing list via an NNTP server or web page. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I own seven-eighths of at all the artists in downtown gmail.comBurbank! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Please don't make unfounded legalistic demands (was: [a, b, c, d] = 1, 2, 3, 4)
On 8/26/2015 9:06 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: It's also unfortunate that there's no way to to access the mailing list via an NNTP server Huh? -- gmane.comp.python.general at news://nntp.gmane.com:119/gmane.comp.python.general Or do you mean by the OP? Emile -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Please don't make unfounded legalistic demands (was: [a, b, c, d] = 1, 2, 3, 4)
On 2015-08-26, Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com wrote: On 8/26/2015 9:06 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: It's also unfortunate that there's no way to to access the mailing list via an NNTP server Huh? -- gmane.comp.python.general at news://nntp.gmane.com:119/gmane.comp.python.general Or do you mean by the OP? I guess I should have used the old sarcasm tag. :) -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! LOOK!! Sullen at American teens wearing gmail.comMADRAS shorts and Flock of Seagulls HAIRCUTS! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Please don't make unfounded legalistic demands (was: [a, b, c, d] = 1, 2, 3, 4)
- Original Message - From: Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. Misleading, intimidating, hostile nonsense. If you want to participate here, please do so from a mail system which does not make these legalistic demands. I agree with you. Unfortunately my request for removing this nonsense has been denied by my employer. To the point where I'm restrincting myself from posting from time to time. I will probably restrict myself even more. JM -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Please don't make unfounded legalistic demands (was: [a, b, c, d] = 1, 2, 3, 4)
On 8/26/2015 5:02 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: - Original Message - From: Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. Misleading, intimidating, hostile nonsense. Agreed. If you want to participate here, please do so from a mail system which does not make these legalistic demands. I disagree with prohibiting people encumbered by such systems from participating. I agree with you. Unfortunately my request for removing this nonsense has been denied by my employer. To the point where I'm restrincting myself from posting from time to time. I will probably restrict myself even more. How about instead you augment your signature with Please ignore the boilerplate below. JM -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Please don't make unfounded legalistic demands (was: [a, b, c, d] = 1, 2, 3, 4)
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Andy Kubiak andy.kub...@gmail.com wrote: What if you could send all your mail to another address on a server you control, or can at least run programs on? That seems like a lot more hassle than it would be worth. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list