Re: Web Application Client Module
Raffi wrote: Hi All, I hope I'm posting this question to the correct newsgroups. We have a web based database application that's accessed using IE. The application opens a popup window to run in. With all the popup blockers and compromised browsers out there, I'm looking into developing a web based custom client side application to access the application with. The application will be developed to only reach the web application site using the https protocol. It also needs to javascript enabled. It will be downloaded from the main web site and used to access the database application. Any suggestions/ideas on how to go about developing the client application? What tools tools are out there for such a project. Thanks, Raffi Wouldn't it be easier simply to make it NOT open a pop-up window? Besides, most browsers usually allow you to whitelist a site, or allow a single pop-up per click . . . Rogan -- Rogan Dawes *ALL* messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be dropped, and added to my blacklist. Please respond to nntp AT dawes DOT za DOT net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Application Client Module
Chung Leong wrote: It's easy. Just create an application that hosts the MSHTML ActiveX control (IE itself minus the interface). With tools like Delphi or Visual Basic, it's literally a matter of dragging and dropping the control into the form. Even in Visual C++ it's not that hard. Hi Chung , Of coure i want to ship my personal browser with my products too :-), but will this be immune to those popup blockers? Thanks, Henk Verhoeven. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Application Client Module
Henk Verhoeven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chung Leong wrote: It's easy. Just create an application that hosts the MSHTML ActiveX control (IE itself minus the interface). With tools like Delphi or Visual Basic, it's literally a matter of dragging and dropping the control into the form. Even in Visual C++ it's not that hard. Hi Chung , Of coure i want to ship my personal browser with my products too :-), but will this be immune to those popup blockers? Third party extensions are not loaded by the MSHTML control, so it wouldn't be affected by pop-up blockers--or spyware for that matters. WinXP SP2's popup blocker is controlled by something known as IInternetSecurityManager, whose behavior you can override by implementing your own. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Application Client Module
Raffi wrote: Hi All, I hope I'm posting this question to the correct newsgroups. We have a web based database application that's accessed using IE. The application opens a popup window to run in. With all the popup blockers and compromised browsers out there, I'm looking into developing a web based custom client side application to access the application with. The application will be developed to only reach the web application site using the https protocol. It also needs to javascript enabled. It will be downloaded from the main web site and used to access the database application. Any suggestions/ideas on how to go about developing the client application? What tools tools are out there for such a project. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/hta/hta_node_entry.asp -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Application Client Module
Berislav Lopac wrote: Raffi wrote: Hi All, I hope I'm posting this question to the correct newsgroups. We have a web based database application that's accessed using IE. The application opens a popup window to run in. With all the popup blockers and compromised browsers out there, I'm looking into developing a web based custom client side application to access the application with. The application will be developed to only reach the web application site using the https protocol. It also needs to javascript enabled. It will be downloaded from the main web site and used to access the database application. Any suggestions/ideas on how to go about developing the client application? What tools tools are out there for such a project. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/hta/hta_node_entry.asp Thanks for the suggestions. They'll give me the starting point I need. Raffi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Application Client Module
Raffi wrote: Hi All, I hope I'm posting this question to the correct newsgroups. We have a web based database application that's accessed using IE. The application opens a popup window to run in. With all the popup blockers and compromised browsers out there, I'm looking into developing a web based custom client side application to access the application with. The application will be developed to only reach the web application site using the https protocol. It also needs to javascript enabled. It will be downloaded from the main web site and used to access the database application. Any suggestions/ideas on how to go about developing the client application? What tools tools are out there for such a project. Thanks, Raffi This is slightly what I am doing right now, you can use the JavaScript on the browser to (mainly the XMLHttpRequest object) to access servers asynchronously, when accessing the server's resource it returns an XML representation (document) of whatever you want using the browser's builtin DOM you can parse this and using the same DOM you can modify the predefined tags or whatever you want. This approach reduces the traffic to the webserver by only accessing data you need. go to cherrypy.org and right on the start page there should be a link labeled AJAX which is the buzzword being used for this kind of implementation. Hope this helps. Adonis -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Application Client Module
Since you need javascript the cheap-n-dirty approach (xml parser, gui library of your choice and just enough widget logic/https for your app to work) is a no-go. I don't know of a python library with html rendering and javascript (and https support could easily be another barrier). Another option starts with Mozilla/Firefox; just strip away all unnecessary GUI 'features' with a customized XUL. I imagine you could effectivly hardcode the 'home' URL and make the location bar read-only without great effort. That will give you HTTPS support, html rendering and full javascript fairly painlessly. Course' if your app was designed and tested for IE only you'll have to wrap the MS rendering/javascript IE libraries. Plenty of commercial programs do it (AIM and Quickbooks come to mind) but I've never tried and suspect there are serious licencing hurdles. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Application Client Module
Raffi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, I hope I'm posting this question to the correct newsgroups. We have a web based database application that's accessed using IE. The application opens a popup window to run in. With all the popup blockers and compromised browsers out there, I'm looking into developing a web based custom client side application to access the application with. The application will be developed to only reach the web application site using the https protocol. It also needs to javascript enabled. It will be downloaded from the main web site and used to access the database application. Any suggestions/ideas on how to go about developing the client application? What tools tools are out there for such a project. It's easy. Just create an application that hosts the MSHTML ActiveX control (IE itself minus the interface). With tools like Delphi or Visual Basic, it's literally a matter of dragging and dropping the control into the form. Even in Visual C++ it's not that hard. Forcing Javascript to be on is somewhat more tricky. There are a couple COM interfaces that you to implement. I suggest you google MSHTML hosting for more info. The newsgroup microsoft.public.inetsdk.programming.mshtml_hosting is also an excellent resource. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
