Re: how can i write a hello world in chinese with python

2006-12-16 Thread kernel1983
thanks everyone
maybe this simple API doesn't fit the Chinese display
but thanks everybody!

At least I've got that what bundles is and maybe I can use Python to
write program

On 12月14日, 上午6时31分, "MRAB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> > On 12 Dec 2006 23:40:41 -0800, "kernel1983" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
>
> > > and I tried unicode and utf-8
> > > I tried to both use unicode&utf-8 head just like "\xEF\xBB\xBF" and not
> > > to use
>
> >"unicode" is a term covering many sins. "utf-8" is a specification
> > for encoding elements of specific unicode characters using 8-bit
> > elements (I believe by using certain codes x00 to x7F alone as "normal",
> > and then x80 to xFF to represent an "escape" to higher [16-bit] element
> > sets).
>
> >"\xEF\xBB\xBF" is just a byte string with no identifier of what
> > encoding is in use (unless the first one or two are supposed to be
> > BOM)... In the "Windows: Western" character set, it is equivalent to
> > small-i-diaeresis/right-guillemot/upside-down? () In MS-DOS: Western
> > Europe, those same bytes represent an
> > acute-accent/double-down&left-box-drawing/solid-down&left
>
> >I've not done any unicode work (iso-latin-1, or subset thereof, has
> > done for me). I also don't know Mac's, so I don't know if the windowing
> > API has specific calls for Unicode data... But you probably have to
> > encode or decod that bytestring into some compatible unicode
> > representation.When you save a textfile as UTF-8 in Notepad.exe (Windows) 
> > it puts the
> bytestring "\xEF\xBB\xBF" at the start to indicate that it's UTF-8 and
> not ANSI (ie 8-bit characters). The bytes are actually the BOM
> bytestring "\xFE\xFF" encoded in UTF-8.

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Re: how can i write a hello world in chinese with python

2006-12-13 Thread MRAB

Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On 12 Dec 2006 23:40:41 -0800, "kernel1983" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
>
> > and I tried unicode and utf-8
> > I tried to both use unicode&utf-8 head just like "\xEF\xBB\xBF" and not
> > to use
> >
>   "unicode" is a term covering many sins. "utf-8" is a specification
> for encoding elements of specific unicode characters using 8-bit
> elements (I believe by using certain codes x00 to x7F alone as "normal",
> and then x80 to xFF to represent an "escape" to higher [16-bit] element
> sets).
>
>   "\xEF\xBB\xBF" is just a byte string with no identifier of what
> encoding is in use (unless the first one or two are supposed to be
> BOM)... In the "Windows: Western" character set, it is equivalent to
> small-i-diaeresis/right-guillemot/upside-down? () In MS-DOS: Western
> Europe, those same bytes represent an
> acute-accent/double-down&left-box-drawing/solid-down&left
>
>   I've not done any unicode work (iso-latin-1, or subset thereof, has
> done for me). I also don't know Mac's, so I don't know if the windowing
> API has specific calls for Unicode data... But you probably have to
> encode or decod that bytestring into some compatible unicode
> representation.
>
When you save a textfile as UTF-8 in Notepad.exe (Windows) it puts the
bytestring "\xEF\xBB\xBF" at the start to indicate that it's UTF-8 and
not ANSI (ie 8-bit characters). The bytes are actually the BOM
bytestring "\xFE\xFF" encoded in UTF-8.

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Re: how can i write a hello world in chinese with python

2006-12-13 Thread Kevin Walzer
kernel1983 wrote:
> I'm try to build a bundle on OS X, so I write a simple python script
> for a test:
> 
> #!/usr/bin/env python
> import EasyDialogs
> EasyDialogs.Message("Hello,Mac!")
> 
> 
> This runs OK,but when I try to replace "Hello,Mac!" with chinese, it
> can't be display rightly.
> Then I tried some way else:
> 
> #!/usr/bin/env python
> import EasyDialogs
> EasyDialogs.Message("\xe4\xb8\xad")
> 
> It doesn't work!
> 
> As I know mac is unicode based,how can I display chinese on the screen?
> 
EasyDialogs is an *ancient* module on OS X--it may not support unicode.
Try posting to the MacPython list, someone there can verify this.

--Kevin

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Re: how can i write a hello world in chinese with python

2006-12-13 Thread John Machin

Leo Kislov wrote:
> kernel1983 wrote:
> > and I tried unicode and utf-8
>
> How did you try unicode? Like this? :
>
> EasyDialogs.Message(u'\u4e2d')
>
> > I tried to both use unicode&utf-8 head just like "\xEF\xBB\xBF" and not
> > to use
> >
> > Anyone knows about the setting in the python code file?
> > Maybe python doesn't know I'm to use chinese?!
>
> It depends on how EasyDialogs works. And by the way, when you say utf-8
> encoded text is not displayed correctly, what do you actually see on
> the screen?

There is a Windows version of EasyDialogs -- unfortunately it appears
not to support Unicode, even for the most simple case.

This works:
| >>> EasyDialogs.Message('fubar')
but this doesn't:
| >>> EasyDialogs.Message(u'fubar')

The title of the window is empty, the text consists of only 'f", and
there is no OK button.
Not very robust.

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Re: how can i write a hello world in chinese with python

2006-12-13 Thread Leo Kislov

kernel1983 wrote:
> and I tried unicode and utf-8

How did you try unicode? Like this? :

EasyDialogs.Message(u'\u4e2d')

> I tried to both use unicode&utf-8 head just like "\xEF\xBB\xBF" and not
> to use
>
> Anyone knows about the setting in the python code file?
> Maybe python doesn't know I'm to use chinese?!

It depends on how EasyDialogs works. And by the way, when you say utf-8
encoded text is not displayed correctly, what do you actually see on
the screen?

  -- Leo

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Re: how can i write a hello world in chinese with python

2006-12-12 Thread kernel1983
and I tried unicode and utf-8
I tried to both use unicode&utf-8 head just like "\xEF\xBB\xBF" and not
to use

Anyone knows about the setting in the python code file?
Maybe python doesn't know I'm to use chinese?!

On 12月13日, 下午12时47分, "bearsprite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> try unicode?
>
> "kernel1983 写道:
> "
>
> > I'm try to build a bundle on OS X, so I write a simple python script
> > for a test:
>
> > #!/usr/bin/env python
> > import EasyDialogs
> > EasyDialogs.Message("Hello,Mac!")
>
> > This runs OK,but when I try to replace "Hello,Mac!" with chinese, it
> > can't be display rightly.
> > Then I tried some way else:
>
> > #!/usr/bin/env python
> > import EasyDialogs
> > EasyDialogs.Message("\xe4\xb8\xad")
>
> > It doesn't work!
>
> > As I know mac is unicode based,how can I display chinese on the screen?

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Re: how can i write a hello world in chinese with python

2006-12-12 Thread bearsprite
try unicode?

"kernel1983 写道:
"
> I'm try to build a bundle on OS X, so I write a simple python script
> for a test:
>
> #!/usr/bin/env python
> import EasyDialogs
> EasyDialogs.Message("Hello,Mac!")
>
>
> This runs OK,but when I try to replace "Hello,Mac!" with chinese, it
> can't be display rightly.
> Then I tried some way else:
>
> #!/usr/bin/env python
> import EasyDialogs
> EasyDialogs.Message("\xe4\xb8\xad")
>
> It doesn't work!
>
> As I know mac is unicode based,how can I display chinese on the screen?

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