Re: TDD in python

2010-12-06 Thread ax003d
This book may help you: http://www.apress.com/book/view/9781590599815

2010/12/7 Chris Withers 

> On 30/11/2010 13:33, Roy Smith wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <58fe3680-21f5-42f8-9341-e069cbb88...@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
>>  rustom  wrote:
>>
>>  Looking around I found this:
>>> http://bytes.com/topic/python/answers/43330-unittest-vs-py-test
>>> where Raymond Hettinger no less says quite unequivocally that he
>>> prefers test.py to builtin unittest
>>> because it is not so heavy-weight
>>>
>>> Is this the general consensus nowadays among pythonistas?
>>> [Note I tend to agree but Ive no experience so asking]
>>>
>>
>> Both frameworks have their fans; I doubt you'll find any consensus.
>>
>> Pick one, learn it, and use it.  What's important is that you write
>> tests, write lots of tests, and write good tests.  Which framework you
>> use is a detail.
>>
>
> For a great mailing lists that covers all of these types of issues, see
> here:
>
> http://lists.idyll.org/listinfo/testing-in-python
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
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Re: TDD in python

2010-12-06 Thread Chris Withers

On 30/11/2010 13:33, Roy Smith wrote:

In article
<58fe3680-21f5-42f8-9341-e069cbb88...@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
  rustom  wrote:


Looking around I found this:
http://bytes.com/topic/python/answers/43330-unittest-vs-py-test
where Raymond Hettinger no less says quite unequivocally that he
prefers test.py to builtin unittest
because it is not so heavy-weight

Is this the general consensus nowadays among pythonistas?
[Note I tend to agree but Ive no experience so asking]


Both frameworks have their fans; I doubt you'll find any consensus.

Pick one, learn it, and use it.  What's important is that you write
tests, write lots of tests, and write good tests.  Which framework you
use is a detail.


For a great mailing lists that covers all of these types of issues, see 
here:


http://lists.idyll.org/listinfo/testing-in-python

cheers,

Chris

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Re: TDD in python

2010-11-30 Thread Roy Smith
In article 
<58fe3680-21f5-42f8-9341-e069cbb88...@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
 rustom  wrote:

> Looking around I found this:
> http://bytes.com/topic/python/answers/43330-unittest-vs-py-test
> where Raymond Hettinger no less says quite unequivocally that he
> prefers test.py to builtin unittest
> because it is not so heavy-weight
> 
> Is this the general consensus nowadays among pythonistas?
> [Note I tend to agree but Ive no experience so asking]

Both frameworks have their fans; I doubt you'll find any consensus.

Pick one, learn it, and use it.  What's important is that you write 
tests, write lots of tests, and write good tests.  Which framework you 
use is a detail.
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Re: TDD in python

2010-11-29 Thread rustom
On Nov 29, 4:59 pm, André  wrote:
> On Nov 29, 7:31 am, rustom  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 28, 7:52 pm, Stefan Behnel  wrote:
>
> > > Rustom Mody, 28.11.2010 11:58:
>
> > > > Does anyone know of something like this for python?
>
> > > >http://www.vimeo.com/13240481
>
> > > The page seems to require a recent version of the Flash player. Could you
> > > describe what exactly you are looking for?
>
> > > Stefan
>
> > Well most modern languages have TDD frameworks.
> > However TDD is learnt by doing and not from books (like swimming/
> > cycling).
> > This screencast gives a detailed demo of *doing it* in eclipse/C++
> > I was hoping for something similar for python
>
> Go to showmedo.com and do a search for "python tdd"; you'll find many
> such screencasts.
>
> André

Looking around I found this:
http://bytes.com/topic/python/answers/43330-unittest-vs-py-test
where Raymond Hettinger no less says quite unequivocally that he
prefers test.py to builtin unittest
because it is not so heavy-weight

Is this the general consensus nowadays among pythonistas?
[Note I tend to agree but Ive no experience so asking]
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Re: TDD in python

2010-11-29 Thread André
On Nov 29, 7:31 am, rustom  wrote:
> On Nov 28, 7:52 pm, Stefan Behnel  wrote:
>
> > Rustom Mody, 28.11.2010 11:58:
>
> > > Does anyone know of something like this for python?
>
> > >http://www.vimeo.com/13240481
>
> > The page seems to require a recent version of the Flash player. Could you
> > describe what exactly you are looking for?
>
> > Stefan
>
> Well most modern languages have TDD frameworks.
> However TDD is learnt by doing and not from books (like swimming/
> cycling).
> This screencast gives a detailed demo of *doing it* in eclipse/C++
> I was hoping for something similar for python


Go to showmedo.com and do a search for "python tdd"; you'll find many
such screencasts.

André
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Re: TDD in python

2010-11-29 Thread rustom
On Nov 28, 7:52 pm, Stefan Behnel  wrote:
> Rustom Mody, 28.11.2010 11:58:
>
> > Does anyone know of something like this for python?
>
> >http://www.vimeo.com/13240481
>
> The page seems to require a recent version of the Flash player. Could you
> describe what exactly you are looking for?
>
> Stefan

Well most modern languages have TDD frameworks.
However TDD is learnt by doing and not from books (like swimming/
cycling).
This screencast gives a detailed demo of *doing it* in eclipse/C++
I was hoping for something similar for python
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Re: TDD in python

2010-11-28 Thread Terry Reedy

On 11/28/2010 5:58 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:

Does anyone know of something like this for python?

http://www.vimeo.com/13240481


"This is the first in a series of videos demonstrating TDD in C++ using 
the Eclipse CDT and CppUTest"


TDD = Test-Driven Development is a development philosophy applicable to 
any language. It is not all that different from Hypothesis-Driven 
Science (HDS) (I just made that connection!)


I suspect CppUTest is derived from Java JUnit (or whatever), as is 
Python's unittest. Python also has doctest and other public and private 
test frameworks and function.


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Re: TDD in python

2010-11-28 Thread Stefan Behnel

Rustom Mody, 28.11.2010 11:58:

Does anyone know of something like this for python?

http://www.vimeo.com/13240481


The page seems to require a recent version of the Flash player. Could you 
describe what exactly you are looking for?


Stefan

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TDD in python

2010-11-28 Thread Rustom Mody
Does anyone know of something like this for python?

http://www.vimeo.com/13240481
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