Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013, Tim Chase wrote: On 01/24/13 13:34, Leonard, Arah wrote: All true (especially the holy wars bit!). OP didn't (as far as I can see) even say which OS he is using. Anyway, my suggestion is generally that people use the editor with which they are already comfortable. Sound advice. [snip] Whatever works is what works. It's just a text file after all. So even ed or edlin or even cat would do ;-) ? -tkc ? wq ed *is* the standard editor. Also, I see what you did there ;) -w . wq -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On Jan 25, 10:35 pm, Leonard, Arah arah.leon...@bruker-axs.com wrote: It's just a text file after all. True indeed, let's not worry about trivial issues like indentation, mixing tabs and spaces or whatever. Notepad anybody? :) Hey, I didn't say Notepad was the *best* tool for the job, just that Python scripts are merely text files. text files ok. Merely text files needs some rebuttal http://blog.languager.org/2012/10/html-is-why-mess-in-programming-syntax.html Yeah its a bit tongue-in-cheek and does not directly answer the OP (to which anyway I said: interpreter is more important than editor) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On 24/01/2013 19:34, Leonard, Arah wrote: It's just a text file after all. True indeed, let's not worry about trivial issues like indentation, mixing tabs and spaces or whatever. Notepad anybody? :) -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
I think PyCharm is ideal for you. http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/ +1 for PyCharm. I used many editors, and PyCharm (IDEA) is just perfect. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
You could try ninja-ide or Sublime Text 2. This message was send from my phone Flick Ritchie On 25 Jan 2013 10:45, Kirill Pekarov kpeka...@gmail.com wrote: I think PyCharm is ideal for you. http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/ +1 for PyCharm. I used many editors, and PyCharm (IDEA) is just perfect. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On Thursday, January 24, 2013 2:34:45 AM UTC-8, mik...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:43:31 AM UTC, Hazard Seventyfour wrote: for all senior can you suggest me the best, friendly and easy use with nice GUI editor for me, and have many a good features such as auto complete/auto correct. I personally like Eclipse as I use it for most of my projects (not only Python) so I use Eclipse + PyDev plug-in for Python. Aptana is doing a great job bundling Eclipse + PyDev (+ other goodies). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
for all senior can you suggest me the best, friendly and easy use with nice GUI editor for me, and have many a good features such as auto complete/auto correct. Depends on what you are used to. If you're used to bare-bones editors such as emacs, vim etc, they can be used for Python. If you're used to IDEs, WingIDE is one long-standing competitor. The 101 version is free. There are also editors implemented *in* Python, which can be used for programming Python, such as Editra, which features quite a few useful plugins. Sincerely, Wolfgang -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
It's just a text file after all. True indeed, let's not worry about trivial issues like indentation, mixing tabs and spaces or whatever. Notepad anybody? :) Hey, I didn't say Notepad was the *best* tool for the job, just that Python scripts are merely text files. Though, that said, I have used Notepad and Wordpad any number of times in the past to edit Python files, all without bringing the universe to an untimely end. Even used DOS Edit once. You use what you have at the time. A good craftsman never blames the tools. ;) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:35 AM, Leonard, Arah arah.leon...@bruker-axs.com wrote: It's just a text file after all. True indeed, let's not worry about trivial issues like indentation, mixing tabs and spaces or whatever. Notepad anybody? :) Hey, I didn't say Notepad was the *best* tool for the job, just that Python scripts are merely text files. Though, that said, I have used Notepad and Wordpad any number of times in the past to edit Python files, all without bringing the universe to an untimely end. Even used DOS Edit once. You use what you have at the time. A good craftsman never blames the tools. ;) I've edited files using any number of poor tools, but that doesn't mean I'd choose them for daily work. Blame your tools no, but choose which ones you carry around on your belt. I have a couple of special-purpose editors that absolutely *suck* for general work, but have a specific feature that makes them good for one particular situation... one editor has a 32KB limit, no spiffy features, and sometimes mishandles line endings, but it edits files on my remote server, and can sometimes work when SSHing isn't an option. But there's no way I'd use that for any other purpose than remote editing. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On 01/24/2013 02:14 PM, Tetsuya wrote: Vim has everything, you just need a bunch of plugins. I code mainly in python and django, and I use these plugins (among others): powerline (status bar indicating git branch, etc..) syntastic (support for pep8, flake8, pyflakes, etc..) ctrlp (fuzzy search for filenames) jedi (*awesome* python smart autocompletion) tagbar (support for ctags, tags in a side window, jump around, etc) fugitive (git with vim commands, very useful) nerdcommenter (smart comment management) nerdtree (filesystem management, tree of files, etc) snipmate (snippets and autoexpanding of boilerplates) gundo (undo management - vim has a smarter-than-others undo system) supertab (autocomplete everything with TAB, smartly depending on language and context). Is this enough? :-) I can continue, but I think that, just to start, is enough. Vim wins. Awesome. I'm checking out these plugins right now, especially jedi and supertab. Thanks so much! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On 2013-01-25, Leonard, Arah arah.leon...@bruker-axs.com wrote: Though, that said, I have used Notepad and Wordpad any number of times in the past to edit Python files, all without bringing the universe to an untimely end. Even used DOS Edit once. You use what you have at the time. A good craftsman never blames the tools. ;) DOS Edit was great for quick edits. The file size limit is a pity, though. -- Neil Cerutti -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On 01/25/2013 12:54 PM, Neil Cerutti wrote: On 2013-01-25, Leonard, Arah arah.leon...@bruker-axs.com wrote: Though, that said, I have used Notepad and Wordpad any number of times in the past to edit Python files, all without bringing the universe to an untimely end. Even used DOS Edit once. You use what you have at the time. A good craftsman never blames the tools. ;) DOS Edit was great for quick edits. The file size limit is a pity, though. I once had to write a text editor that would run in a 32k machine without a disk drive. The editor had to fit in RAM with the data, so the text files were limited to 320 lines. -- DaveA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On 01/25/2013 06:47 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: On 01/24/2013 02:14 PM, Tetsuya wrote: Vim has everything, you just need a bunch of plugins. [...] jedi (*awesome* python smart autocompletion) [...] supertab (autocomplete everything with TAB, smartly depending on language and context). Awesome. I'm checking out these plugins right now, especially jedi and supertab. Thanks so much! ;-) you're welcome! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
Hello, I new in this python and decided to learn more about it, so i can make an own script :), for all senior can you suggest me the best, friendly and easy use with nice GUI editor for me, and have many a good features such as auto complete/auto correct. any recommend? Thanks ^_^ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:43:31 AM UTC, Hazard Seventyfour wrote: Hello, I new in this python and decided to learn more about it, so i can make an own script :), for all senior can you suggest me the best, friendly and easy use with nice GUI editor for me, and have many a good features such as auto complete/auto correct. any recommend? Thanks ^_^ Hi, an editor is pretty much a matter of personal preferences. I personally like Eclipse as I use it for most of my projects (not only Python) so I use Eclipse + PyDev plug-in for Python. mik -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Hazard Seventyfour hseventyf...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I new in this python and decided to learn more about it, so i can make an own script :), for all senior can you suggest me the best, friendly and easy use with nice GUI editor for me, and have many a good features such as auto complete/auto correct. any recommend? Thanks ^_^ Here we go, it's holy war time again! :) You'll get a HUGE lot of responses. Many use emacs or vim, and you'll get a few recommendations for IDLE. After that, it's a huge field of options. I personally use SciTE; it's a good editor, but I don't particularly like the way the project is run (nothing strong, but I didn't like the tone on its mailing list). Eclipse has its fans, too. A Python IDE is not nearly as beneficial as, say, a Java IDE. A good Python editor just needs to do the basics like indentation, syntax highlighting, and such; I like IDLE's method info when I'm working interactively, but it's not a big deal when I'm writing a program. In fact, all you really need out of an IDE can probably be supplied by just a good editor, maybe a makefile, and alt-tabbing to IDLE. However, if you want an IDE, they do exist. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
In a7c3d4a0-3277-428b-8cfc-c52ea585b...@googlegroups.com Hazard Seventyfour hseventyf...@gmail.com writes: Hello, I new in this python and decided to learn more about it, so i can make an own script :), for all senior can you suggest me the best, friendly and easy use with nice GUI editor for me, and have many a good features such as auto complete/auto correct. Try PyScripter. http://code.google.com/p/pyscripter/ -- John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs gor...@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears -- Edward Gorey, The Gashlycrumb Tinies -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:42:19 PM UTC+5:30, John Gordon wrote: In a7c3d4a0-3277-428b-8cfc-c52ea585b...@googlegroups.com Hazard Seventyfour hseventyf...@gmail.com writes: Hello, I new in this python and decided to learn more about it, so i can make an own script :), for all senior can you suggest me the best, friendly and easy use with nice GUI editor for me, and have many a good features such as auto complete/auto correct. Try PyScripter. http://code.google.com/p/pyscripter/ -- John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs gor...@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears -- Edward Gorey, The Gashlycrumb Tinies use vim. ~Sharwan Joram -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On Jan 24, 2:43 pm, Hazard Seventyfour hseventyf...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I new in this python and decided to learn more about it, so i can make an own script :), for all senior can you suggest me the best, friendly and easy use with nice GUI editor for me, and have many a good features such as auto complete/auto correct. any recommend? Thanks ^_^ What editor you use does not matter. What matters is that you learn to use the interpreter. That is learn to use things like - history - last expression with _ (underscore) - Using introspection to find out about odd stuff (ie use dir and help) - Loading a python file - And after things kind-of work, copy pasting into your editor Here's a test to check whether youve got the idea: Do you think that to write a program you need to write a 'main?' If yes then no! [I personally use emacs. It would be sadistic to make that into a recommendation] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:54 AM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: - last expression with _ (underscore) Small terminology quibble: That's not last expression, but last non-None result. 1+2 3 _ 3 _,None (3, None) _ (3, None) _[1] _ (3, None) Otherwise, agree totally. Get to know the interactive interpreter, and keep it handy. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
In ccf57220-4367-4611-b91b-5bf2a51e3...@googlegroups.com Sharwan Joram sharwan.jo...@gmail.com writes: use vim. He said he wanted autocomplete. Does Vim have that? -- John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs gor...@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears -- Edward Gorey, The Gashlycrumb Tinies -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
Am 24.01.2013 16:54, schrieb rusi: [I personally use emacs. It would be sadistic to make that into a recommendation] It would be truly sadistic to force a long-time emacs user to any other editor. Thomas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On 01/24/13 10:23, Thomas Heller wrote: Am 24.01.2013 16:54, schrieb rusi: [I personally use emacs. It would be sadistic to make that into a recommendation] It would be truly sadistic to force a long-time emacs user to any other editor. I saw the recommendation for Vim elsewhere on the thread and comment the same as this sub-thread: I personally use vim. It would be sadistic to make that into a recommendation And likewise, it's truly sadistic to force a long-time vim user to any other editor. :-) Not that Vim isn't great for programming Python (which I do daily)...it *is*! It's just not where I'd throw somebody who doesn't already have an existing editor preference *and* doesn't know Python. -tkc -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
I think PyCharm is ideal for you. http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:10:21 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Hazard Seventyfour hseventyf...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I new in this python and decided to learn more about it, so i can make an own script :), for all senior can you suggest me the best, friendly and easy use with nice GUI editor for me, and have many a good features such as auto complete/auto correct. any recommend? Thanks ^_^ Here we go, it's holy war time again! :) You'll get a HUGE lot of responses. Many use emacs or vim, and you'll get a few recommendations for IDLE. After that, it's a huge field of options. I personally use SciTE; it's a good editor, but I don't particularly like the way the project is run (nothing strong, but I didn't like the tone on its mailing list). Eclipse has its fans, too. A Python IDE is not nearly as beneficial as, say, a Java IDE. A good Python editor just needs to do the basics like indentation, syntax highlighting, and such; I like IDLE's method info when I'm working interactively, but it's not a big deal when I'm writing a program. In fact, all you really need out of an IDE can probably be supplied by just a good editor, maybe a makefile, and alt-tabbing to IDLE. However, if you want an IDE, they do exist. All true (especially the holy wars bit!). OP didn't (as far as I can see) even say which OS he is using. Anyway, my suggestion is generally that people use the editor with which they are already comfortable. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
All true (especially the holy wars bit!). OP didn't (as far as I can see) even say which OS he is using. Anyway, my suggestion is generally that people use the editor with which they are already comfortable. Sound advice. Most of the time I still use Visual Studio for editing Python because I also use it for C++, so it's just what I'm used to. No big deal, really. Whatever works is what works. It's just a text file after all. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
Leonard, Arah Arah.Leonard at bruker-axs.com writes: All true (especially the holy wars bit!). OP didn't (as far as I can see) even say which OS he is using. Anyway, my suggestion is generally that people use the editor with which they are already comfortable. Sound advice. Most of the time I still use Visual Studio for editing Python because I also use it for C++, so it's just what I'm used to. No big deal, really. Whatever works is what works. It's just a text file after all. I assume you're using PyTools (http://pytools.codeplex.com/)? -Dave -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On 2013-01-24, John Gordon gor...@panix.com wrote: In ccf57220-4367-4611-b91b-5bf2a51e3...@googlegroups.com Sharwan Joram sharwan.jo...@gmail.com writes: use vim. He said he wanted autocomplete. Does Vim have that? Yes, you use its ctags support to get it working, I believe. -- Neil Cerutti -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On 2013-01-24, Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote: On 01/24/13 10:23, Thomas Heller wrote: Am 24.01.2013 16:54, schrieb rusi: [I personally use emacs. It would be sadistic to make that into a recommendation] It would be truly sadistic to force a long-time emacs user to any other editor. I saw the recommendation for Vim elsewhere on the thread and comment the same as this sub-thread: I personally use vim. It would be sadistic to make that into a recommendation And likewise, it's truly sadistic to force a long-time vim user to any other editor. :-) Not that Vim isn't great for programming Python (which I do daily)...it *is*! It's just not where I'd throw somebody who doesn't already have an existing editor preference *and* doesn't know Python. I agree. Vim is great, Emacs is great. I'm glad I know one of them. But learning one of them is as project unto itself. So selecting either just for Python is skipping too many decisions and maybe biting off too big a piece of the snake. -- Neil Cerutti -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On 01/24/13 13:34, Leonard, Arah wrote: All true (especially the holy wars bit!). OP didn't (as far as I can see) even say which OS he is using. Anyway, my suggestion is generally that people use the editor with which they are already comfortable. Sound advice. [snip] Whatever works is what works. It's just a text file after all. So even ed or edlin or even cat would do ;-) ? -tkc ? wq -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
Sound advice. Most of the time I still use Visual Studio for editing Python because I also use it for C++, so it's just what I'm used to. No big deal, really. Whatever works is what works. It's just a text file after all. I assume you're using PyTools (http://pytools.codeplex.com/)? Would that I could! To my knowledge they still haven't backported PyTools to VS2008, which I'm presently stuck on because Python 2.7 still doesn't compile on VS2010. :( Kind of makes you think... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:54:55 AM UTC-8, rusi wrote: [I personally use emacs. It would be sadistic to make that into a recommendation] Lol! That's just too true. It's also true for Eclipse, which I use very comfortably on Windows 7, but has proven to be a nightmare to set up on Ubuntu. On Linux, I've tried several, but always keep coming back to Geany. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On 01/24/2013 04:51 PM, John Gordon wrote: In ccf57220-4367-4611-b91b-5bf2a51e3...@googlegroups.com Sharwan Joram sharwan.jo...@gmail.com writes: use vim. He said he wanted autocomplete. Does Vim have that? Vim has everything, you just need a bunch of plugins. I code mainly in python and django, and I use these plugins (among others): powerline (status bar indicating git branch, etc..) syntastic (support for pep8, flake8, pyflakes, etc..) ctrlp (fuzzy search for filenames) jedi (*awesome* python smart autocompletion) tagbar (support for ctags, tags in a side window, jump around, etc) fugitive (git with vim commands, very useful) nerdcommenter (smart comment management) nerdtree (filesystem management, tree of files, etc) snipmate (snippets and autoexpanding of boilerplates) gundo (undo management - vim has a smarter-than-others undo system) supertab (autocomplete everything with TAB, smartly depending on language and context). Is this enough? :-) I can continue, but I think that, just to start, is enough. Vim wins. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
Simply use Netbeans On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:09 PM, llanitedave llanited...@veawb.coopwrote: On Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:54:55 AM UTC-8, rusi wrote: [I personally use emacs. It would be sadistic to make that into a recommendation] Lol! That's just too true. It's also true for Eclipse, which I use very comfortably on Windows 7, but has proven to be a nightmare to set up on Ubuntu. On Linux, I've tried several, but always keep coming back to Geany. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Odeyemi 'Kayode O. http://ng.linkedin.com/in/kayodeodeyemi. t: @charyorde blog: http://sinati.com/tree/java-cheat-sheet -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The best, friendly and easy use Python Editor.
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote: On 01/24/13 13:34, Leonard, Arah wrote: All true (especially the holy wars bit!). OP didn't (as far as I can see) even say which OS he is using. Anyway, my suggestion is generally that people use the editor with which they are already comfortable. Sound advice. [snip] Whatever works is what works. It's just a text file after all. So even ed or edlin or even cat would do ;-) Definitely. Especially if your edlin syntax highlights Python. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
