Re: . is a good idea! (OT, was: Re: do you master list comprehensions?)

2004-12-27 Thread Steven Bethard
I wrote:
Kent Johnson wrote:
You can do the same thing using a PYTHONSTARTUP file - see 
http://docs.python.org/tut/node4.html#SECTION00424

You can change the prompts with
import sys
sys.ps1 = '  '
sys.ps2 = ' ... '

Very cool.  I didn't know about this.  Does anyone know how to make it 
work with Pythonwin[1]?
Solved my own problem here.  For anyone else out there using PythonWin, 
the solution that worked for me is to put the following (or whatever 
customizations you want) in a sitecustomize.py somewhere on my PYTHONPATH:

import sys
sys.ps1 = 'py '
sys.ps2 = '... '
PythonWin (as well as my Command Prompt python) now has the above prompts.
Steve
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Re: . is a good idea! (OT, was: Re: do you master list comprehensions?)

2004-12-20 Thread Scott David Daniels
Bengt Richter wrote:
Not true on NT4 at least:
Alt-Spacebar gets you the system menu 
paste into the dos window with Alt-spacebar e p
Thanks immensely for this -- I love it.
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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-17 Thread aleks90210
Thought you might enjoy my super-small flatten function: (though google
groups seems to be munging my whitespace today)

def flatten(d):
flatten([[[1,[2,3],[4,5]],6],[7]])==[1,2,3,4,5,6,7]
return reduce(lambda a,b:a+b,[(type(x) in (list, tuple) \
and flatten(x) or [x]) for x in d])

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Re: . is a good idea! (OT, was: Re: do you master list comprehensions?)

2004-12-17 Thread Fernando Perez
Keith Dart wrote:

 Fernando Perez wrote:
 
 blatant plug
 
 You might want to look at ipython:
 
 http://ipython.scipy.org,
 

 /blatant plug

 
 I did just recently install that. It looks very nice. Would make a great
 interactive prompt for an IDE, as well.

Glad you like it :)  And yes, there are plans to clean it up so it can be
easily embedded into a full-blown IDE (as well as remaining available for
regular command-line use).  This keeps on getting delayed by inevitable bug
fixes and my very limited time, but it will happen...

Best,

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Re: . is a good idea! (OT, was: Re: do you master list comprehensions?)

2004-12-17 Thread Bengt Richter
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:03:12 -0500, Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Steven Bethard wrote:
 Very cool.  I didn't know about this.  Does anyone know how to make it 
 work with Pythonwin[1]?  (Obviously, I can type the above in manually 
 every time, but I'd much rather have Pythonwin do this automatically for 
 me.)
 
 Steve
 
 [1] I'd do my example code at the command prompt, but I can't live 
 without copy-paste. ;)

You can copy and paste from a Windows command prompt. It's a bit bizarre, but
- In the system menu for a command window, pick Properties
- On the Options tab, turn on Quick Edit mode
- Now you can copy and paste with right-click (!). If you have text selected, 
right-click will copy, 
otherwise paste. It's a bit strange but it works.

I think it's wonderfully ironic that in Windows - which takes such pains to 
make everything keyboard 
accessible - in a *command line* window, which is using keyboard input by its 
nature - you have to 
use the mouse for copy and paste!!

Not true on NT4 at least:

Alt-Spacebar gets you the system menu
Follow with e then k which gets you in select mode

use arrow keys to move to top left of a box, or whole screen
(if there's more buffer than screen, arrows should cause scrolling
to access more)

hold shift key down and use arrow keys while continuing to hold
the shift key down to select a box of text (need not be at edges)
this can also scroll through buffer as necessary to select more than can
be visible at one time. Just keep holding down shift.

press enter to capture box of text to clipboard

paste as usual with ctrl-v ins some apps, shift-insert in vim (depending),
or paste back into the dos window with Alt-spacebar e p

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. is a good idea! (OT, was: Re: do you master list comprehensions?)

2004-12-16 Thread Stefan Behnel
Nick Coghlan schrieb:
data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
result = []
for d in data:
. data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
. from itertools import chain
. result = .join(chain(*data))
'foobarbazmyyourholygrail'
This is the first time I see that and I totally like the idea of writing 
. instead of  at the beginning of a line. Thank you Dr. Dobb! 
It's unfortunate for c.l.py that Python uses  as the default prompt 
as it messes up the display on mail/news readers that provide syntax 
highlighting for quotes.

I wish everyone would write examples that way! On the other hand - three 
levels of quoting are really rare, maybe it would be easier to change that 
in the mail readers...

... or in Py3k ?
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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-16 Thread Nick Coghlan
Nick Coghlan wrote:
(FYI, I filed bug report #1085744 on SF about this)
And Raymond Hettinger was able to decipher my somewhat incoherent rambling (tip: 
don't try to write bug reports in the wee hours of the morning) and produce a 
potentially useful modification to PySequence_Tuple.

Anyway, I guess the results I got emphasizes the fact that it's important to 
measure performance of the actual methods you're using on representative input 
data, rather than relying on overly simple demonstrators.

And, of course, don't be *too* concerned about optimisations until you know you 
actually have a performance problem. . .

Cheers,
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Re: . is a good idea! (OT, was: Re: do you master list comprehensions?)

2004-12-16 Thread Fernando Perez
Kent Johnson wrote:

 Keith Dart wrote:
 What I do is set Python's sys.ps1 variable to something else. I have a
 module called interactive that I import implicitly by shell alias:
 
 py='python -i -c '\''import interactive'\'
 
 Which, among other things, sets the prompt to Python 
 
 You can do the same thing using a PYTHONSTARTUP file - see
 http://docs.python.org/tut/node4.html#SECTION00424
 
 You can change the prompts with
 import sys
 sys.ps1 = '  '
 sys.ps2 = ' ... '

blatant plug

You might want to look at ipython:

http://ipython.scipy.org,

which provides you automatically with these prompts:

In [1]: for i in range(2):
   ...: print i,
   ...:
0 1

In [2]: 99*2
Out[2]: 198

In [3]: _2+1
Out[3]: 199

As a curiosity, ipython was actually born as a sys.ps1/2 hack, by assigning to
these objects whose __repr__ would give numbered prompts with results caching. 
These days it's a full-blown pure python interpreter, not a $PYTHONSTARTUP
customization anymore, but it's an interesting little historical curiosity. 
Especially if you start going very far with interactive customizations, you
might not want to rewrite all of ipython's 15K lines of code :)

/blatant plug

Cheers,

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Re: . is a good idea! (OT, was: Re: do you master list comprehensions?)

2004-12-16 Thread Keith Dart
Steve Holden wrote:
Nick Coghlan wrote:
Roel Schroeven wrote:
Stefan Behnel wrote:
This is the first time I see that and I totally like the idea of 
writing . instead of  at the beginning of a line. Thank 
you Dr. Dobb! It's unfortunate for c.l.py that Python uses  as 
the default prompt as it messes up the display on mail/news readers 
that provide syntax highlighting for quotes.

I use Thunderbird, and started doing it so I could read my own posts. 
I did copy it from someone, though (but I can't recall who).

The trick can also be useful for web tools that strip leading whitespace.
Prepending every line with . is not an ideal solution though... I 
think it gets tiresome very quickly.

Aye, can't argue with that. It does have the virtues of reliability 
and portability, though :)

Cheers,
Nick.
$ python
Python 2.4 (#1, Dec  4 2004, 20:10:33)
[GCC 3.3.3 (cygwin special)] on cygwin
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
  import sys
  sys.ps1 = . ; sys.ps2 =  
. print \
 It isn't that hard
It isn't that hard
.
Would it work, I wonder, with a leading space on the prompt? That might 
be a valid change to the standard prompt. Let's see

  This line isn't really quoted three times.
What I do is set Python's sys.ps1 variable to something else. I have a 
module called interactive that I import implicitly by shell alias:

py='python -i -c '\''import interactive'\'
Which, among other things, sets the prompt to Python 
433 $ py
Python print This has no leader that screws up email programs.
This has no leader that screws up email programs.
Python

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Re: . is a good idea! (OT, was: Re: do you master list comprehensions?)

2004-12-16 Thread Steven Bethard
Kent Johnson wrote:
You can do the same thing using a PYTHONSTARTUP file - see 
http://docs.python.org/tut/node4.html#SECTION00424

You can change the prompts with
import sys
sys.ps1 = '  '
sys.ps2 = ' ... '
Very cool.  I didn't know about this.  Does anyone know how to make it 
work with Pythonwin[1]?  (Obviously, I can type the above in manually 
every time, but I'd much rather have Pythonwin do this automatically for 
me.)

Steve
[1] I'd do my example code at the command prompt, but I can't live 
without copy-paste. ;)
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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-15 Thread Nick Coghlan
Will Stuyvesant wrote:
Here is a question about list comprehensions [lc].  The
question is dumb because I can do without [lc]; but I am
posing the question because I am curious.
This:

data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
result = []
for d in data:
... for w in d:
...result.append(w)
print result
['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail']
puts all the words in a list, like I want.
There's a way to avoid generating the intermediate list if you don't actually 
need it (e.g. you want to feed the sequence to another method):

. data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
. from itertools import chain
. result = .join(chain(*data))
'foobarbazmyyourholygrail'
Some timing with integers:
C:\python -m timeit -s data = [range(x) for x in range(1000)] L= []; map(L.e
xtend, data); max(L)
10 loops, best of 3: 78.5 msec per loop
C:\python -m timeit -s data = [range(x) for x in range(1000)]; from Tkinter im
port _flatten max(_flatten(data))
10 loops, best of 3: 58.4 msec per loop
C:\python -m timeit -s data = [range(x) for x in range(1000)]; from itertools
import chain max(chain(*data))
10 loops, best of 3: 43 msec per loop
And with strings:
C:\python -m timeit -s data = [map(str, range(x)) for x in range(1000)] L= [
]; map(L.extend, data); ''.join(L)
10 loops, best of 3: 106 msec per loop
C:\python -m timeit -s data = [map(str, range(x)) for x in range(1000)]; from
Tkinter import _flatten ''.join(_flatten(data))
10 loops, best of 3: 85.4 msec per loop
C:\python -m timeit -s data = [map(str, range(x)) for x in range(1000)]; from
itertools import chain ''.join(chain(*data))
10 loops, best of 3: 1.2 sec per loop ** OUCH!!
C:\python -m timeit -s data = [map(str, range(x)) for x in range(1000)]; from
itertools import chain ''.join(list(chain(*data)))
10 loops, best of 3: 107 msec per loop
Yikes - looks like chain() really sucks for str.join. However, the addition of 
the 'list' call makes a big difference. Maybe PySequence_Fast should be called 
PySequence_SlowAsADeadDingo() in this case ;)

(FYI, I filed bug report #1085744 on SF about this)
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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-15 Thread Matthew Moss
Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
  data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
  [e for l in data for e in l]
 ['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail']


Okay, I tried this in an interactive Python session and it works as
stated. My question is, why?  How is the interpreter parsing that list
expression that it makes sense?

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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Steven Bethard wrote:

  python -m timeit -s data = [range(10) for _ in range(1000)]
 sum(data, [])
 10 loops, best of 3: 54.2 msec per loop

  python -m timeit -s data = [range(10) for _ in range(1000)] [w for
 d in data for w in d]
 100 loops, best of 3: 1.75 msec per loop

 The sum function used in this way (or a loop with a +=) is O(N**2) while the 
 LC is O(N).

also:

timeit -s data = [range(10) for _ in range(1000)] L = sum(data, [])
10 loops, best of 3: 4.02e+004 usec per loop

timeit -s data = [range(10) for _ in range(1000)] L = [w for d in data for w 
in d]
1000 loops, best of 3: 1.12e+003 usec per loop

timeit -s data = [range(10) for _ in range(1000)] L = []; map(L.extend, 
data)
1000 loops, best of 3: 283 usec per loop

timeit -s data = [range(10) for _ in range(1000)]; from Tkinter import 
_flatten L = 
_flatten(data)
1000 loops, best of 3: 308 usec per loop

(the last one supports arbitrary nestings, the others don't)

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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-14 Thread Steven Bethard
Timothy Babytch wrote:
Will Stuyvesant wrote:
data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]

sum(data, [])
['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail']
The second parameter passed to sum is just to overrride default
initial value zero.
It's worth keeping in mind that this solution has the same efficiency 
problems that a loop that =+ strings does:

 python -m timeit -s data = [range(10) for _ in range(100)] 
sum(data, [])
1000 loops, best of 3: 530 usec per loop

 python -m timeit -s data = [range(10) for _ in range(100)] [w for 
d in data for w in d]
1 loops, best of 3: 151 usec per loop

 python -m timeit -s data = [range(10) for _ in range(1000)] 
sum(data, [])
10 loops, best of 3: 54.2 msec per loop

 python -m timeit -s data = [range(10) for _ in range(1000)] [w for 
d in data for w in d]
100 loops, best of 3: 1.75 msec per loop

The sum function used in this way (or a loop with a +=) is O(N**2) while 
the LC is O(N).

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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-14 Thread Jeremy Bowers
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 00:41:36 +0100, Max M wrote:

 Fredrik Lundh wrote:
 Max M wrote:
 
 
I tried funnies like [[w for w in L] for L in data],

That is absolutely correct. It's not a funnie at all.
 
 well, syntactically correct or not, it doesn't do what he want...
 
 Doh! *I* might not be used to list comprehensions then... You are right.
 
 That example could have been expressed more clearly as:
 
  result = data

result = data[:]

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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-13 Thread Steven Bethard
Will Stuyvesant wrote:
data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
result = []
for d in data:
... for w in d:
...result.append(w)
print result
['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail']
Take advantage of the fact that you can have more than one 'for' in a 
list comprehension:

 data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
 [item for item_list in data for item in item_list]
['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail']
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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-13 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
 data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
 [e for l in data for e in l]
['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail']
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do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-13 Thread Will Stuyvesant
Here is a question about list comprehensions [lc].  The
question is dumb because I can do without [lc]; but I am
posing the question because I am curious.

This:

 data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
 result = []
 for d in data:
... for w in d:
...result.append(w)
 print result
['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail']

puts all the words in a list, like I want.

How to do this with [lc] instead of for-loops?

I tried funnies like [[w for w in L] for L in data],
that is correct syntax, but you'd never guess.

I know, silly!  No need for [lc]!  So there's my
question.  I am sure a one-liner using [lc] will be very
enlightening.  Like studying LISP.


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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-13 Thread Peter Otten
Will Stuyvesant wrote:

 data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
 result = []
 for d in data:
 ... for w in d:
 ...result.append(w)
 print result
 ['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail']
 
 puts all the words in a list, like I want.
 
 How to do this with [lc] instead of for-loops?

 data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
 [w for d in data for w in d]
['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail']

See how the for expressions in the list comprehension exactly match your
nested for loops? That's all there is to it.

Peter

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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-13 Thread Max M
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Max M wrote:

I tried funnies like [[w for w in L] for L in data],
That is absolutely correct. It's not a funnie at all.
well, syntactically correct or not, it doesn't do what he want...
Doh! *I* might not be used to list comprehensions then... You are right.
That example could have been expressed more clearly as:
result = data
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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-13 Thread Luis M. Gonzalez
I guess the simplest way to do it is like this:

 data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
 result=[w for d in data for w in d]
 result
['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail']


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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-13 Thread James Stroud
Here is one for arbitrary depth:

def unroll(ary):
  unrolled = []
  for item in ary:
# add test for your favorite sequence type
if ( type(item) == types.ListType or   \
 type(item) == types.TupleType \
   ):
  unrolled.extend(unroll(item))
else:
  unrolled.append(item)
  return unrolled



 unroll([[1, 2, 3], ('fred', 'barney', ['wilma', 'betty']), 'dino'])
[1, 2, 3, 'fred', 'barney', 'wilma', 'betty', 'dino']




On Monday 13 December 2004 12:51 pm, Will Stuyvesant wrote:
 Here is a question about list comprehensions [lc].  The
 question is dumb because I can do without [lc]; but I am
 posing the question because I am curious.

 This:
  data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
  result = []
  for d in data:

 ... for w in d:
 ...result.append(w)

  print result

 ['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail']

 puts all the words in a list, like I want.

 How to do this with [lc] instead of for-loops?

 I tried funnies like [[w for w in L] for L in data],
 that is correct syntax, but you'd never guess.

 I know, silly!  No need for [lc]!  So there's my
 question.  I am sure a one-liner using [lc] will be very
 enlightening.  Like studying LISP.

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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-13 Thread Fredrik Lundh
James Stroud wrote:

 Here is one for arbitrary depth:

 def unroll(ary):
  unrolled = []
  for item in ary:
# add test for your favorite sequence type
if ( type(item) == types.ListType or   \
 type(item) == types.TupleType \
   ):
  unrolled.extend(unroll(item))
else:
  unrolled.append(item)
  return unrolled


 unroll([[1, 2, 3], ('fred', 'barney', ['wilma', 'betty']), 'dino'])
 [1, 2, 3, 'fred', 'barney', 'wilma', 'betty', 'dino']

or, shorter:

 from Tkinter import _flatten as unroll
 (1, 2, 3, 'fred', 'wilma', 'betty', 'dino')

(alright, it returns a tuple, but that can be easily fixed, if necessary)

/F 



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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-13 Thread Luis M. Gonzalez
I guess the simplest to do it is like this:

 data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
 result=[w for d in data for w in d]
 result
['foo', 'bar', 'baz', 'my', 'your', 'holy', 'grail']


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Re: do you master list comprehensions?

2004-12-13 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Max M wrote:

 I tried funnies like [[w for w in L] for L in data],
 that is correct syntax, but you'd never guess.

 That is absolutely correct. It's not a funnie at all. If you find it odd it's 
 only because you are 
 not used to list comprehensiones.

well, syntactically correct or not, it doesn't do what he want...

 In that case you might be more comfortable with:

 data = [['foo','bar','baz'],['my','your'],['holy','grail']]
 result = []
 for l in data:
 result += l

how about (slightly evil):

result = []; map(result.extend, data)

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