Re: editor for Python on Linux
The indentation-based folding in vim makes it great for python; other folding editors might be almost as good. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On 2/19/06, Mladen Adamovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. I know you said in the thread that you had problems with jEdit for Python, and didn't care for Emacs or Vi(m). Still -- in my experience, I've used jEdit for Python for about the past 5 years, and never had a problem with jEdit's indentation. I did not set up as a full-fledged IDE with code completion or module browsing -- I never got the jpydebug plugin working to my satisfaction. I think jEdit is an excellent editor. I've tried pretty much all of the well-known editor/IDE options. Komodo is nice to work with, but expensive (I code for pay, so can't use the cheap license) compared to even WingIDE. Also, I don't like the Komodo module browser. The latest pydev for Eclipse is greatly improved. But with Eclipse you get all the overhead of a projects-requiring IDE, which may feel like overkill if you're writing small scripts. Plus, for the Python stuff to work, you have to import files into a project that's defined as a Python project (not true for the other full-blown IDEs). For fast and small (opposite of Eclipse), Scite is nice, but auto-completion can only use words that exist in the opened file, not the available methods in your namespace. Despite all the good choices, I have gone back to my old standby, Vim, alongside IPython. If you dislike the vim way of editing, there's a user-friendlier version of Vim called Cream. With vim plus IPython, you get syntax highlighting, auto-indent, code completion, code browser (tags), interactive help, ability to run your code and drop into a debugger, file explorer, etc (and I haven't even gotten all the vim Python tools installed yet). Add winpdg if you like a more GUI debugger, and you've got the makings of a great development environment. If you really _have_ to have a full-blown IDE with a modern-looking GUI, with dockable windows and all that, try the Komodo and WingIDE trials. If you aren't coding for a living, you might want to pay the price for a non-professional license. Try Eclipse with pydev, too. But for your intended purpose, you might decide you can use a lighter-weight setup. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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You know, I have that for Perl, but seem never to have set up folding for Python. I must remedy this tonight. Ben -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On 2006-02-19, Mladen Adamovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. jed -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Vote for ME at -- I'm well-tapered, visi.comhalf-cocked, ill-conceived and TAX-DEFERRED! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Mladen Adamovic wrote: Hi! I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. Eclipse + pydev -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Mladen Adamovic wrote: Hi! I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. NEdit -- (remove zeez if demunging email address) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Well... pydev has it: http://pydev.sf.net and pydev extensions goes much further: http://www.fabioz.com/pydev Cheers, Fabio jean-michel bain-cornu wrote: Boa-Constructor is an IDE rather than an editor. Although it focuses on wxPython, it has a good editor. Yes, some possibilities are pretty good, like for instance the findAll/findInFiles keeping the results in a new tab (I never saw this elsewhere). Another useful is having the debugger launching the application in a separate process, an excellent way to avoid bugs pollution coming into the IDE. rgds jm -- Fabio Zadrozny -- Software Developer ESSS - Engineering Simulation and Scientific Software www.esss.com.br Pydev Extensions http://www.fabioz.com/pydev PyDev - Python Development Enviroment for Eclipse http://pydev.sf.net http://pydev.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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My favourite is Kate, available on KDE but working great also on Gnome!2006/2/21, Fabio Zadrozny [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well... pydev has it: http://pydev.sf.net and pydev extensions goes muchfurther: http://www.fabioz.com/pydevCheers,Fabio jean-michel bain-cornu wrote:Boa-Constructor is an IDE rather than an editor.Although it focuseson wxPython, it has a good editor.Yes, some possibilities are pretty good, like for instance the findAll/findInFiles keeping the results in a new tab (I never saw thiselsewhere). Another useful is having the debugger launching theapplication in a separate process, an excellent way to avoid bugs pollution coming into the IDE.rgdsjm--Fabio Zadrozny--Software DeveloperESSS - Engineering Simulation and Scientific Software www.esss.com.brPydev Extensionshttp://www.fabioz.com/pydevPyDev - Python Development Enviroment for Eclipse http://pydev.sf.nethttp://pydev.blogspot.com--http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Sbaush -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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I really think that IDLE is one of the best around in Python source editing. For me, I find that IDLE is about the worse for editing Python sources. Worse? Now that's harsh. I'm with billie on this one. I usually spend a day or so every 3 months trying to find a free python editor that surpasses IDLE. I've been doing it for 3 years now and for me, IDLE is still king of the hill. What I like about IDLE is that it is configurable, intuitive and rock stable, and I've come to realize that combination is rare indeed in the world of free editors. Another pro for IDLE is that you probably already have it installed, since it comes included in the standard python releases. If you decide to give IDLE a go you might also want to check out the latest subversion version of IDLE, since it has a bunch of really useful syntax helper updates. Cheers! /Joel Hedlund -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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pida is a great ide as well: http://pida.vm.bytemark.co.uk/projects/pida -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Endless stories about IDEs (try to browse through this discussion group first). Of course it depends about users personal needs and taste. So install them and try them (I know, it's really time consuming). I thing there is not the other way to decide which one is the best for YOU. Petr Jakes -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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I really think that IDLE is one of the best around in Python source editing. The only great lacks are tabs. Does somebody know if is there some IDLE modified version including tabbed browsing, out there? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Rene Pijlman wrote:
F. Petitjean:
Rene Pijlman:
vi
I beg to disagree :-) Use ed
Ed is the standard text editor.
http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html
That was 1991. This is 2006.
Yes, but that rant is still a pure jewel of geek madness.
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Rene Pijlman wrote:
Sriram Krishnan:
Check out http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors.
This page can't be taken seriously. vi is not listed.
Well, this prove that this page *is* to be taken seriously !-)
(René, don't bother replying : this is a troll ;-)
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I'm writing a simple yet powerful text editor for GNOME that is great for Python development called Scribes. It features Snippets (ala Textmate/Eclipse) Automatic word completion Automatic indentation Automatic bracket completion Automatic saving Bookmarks Syntax Highlight etc.. Flash Movie: http://scribes.sf.net/snippets.htm Gif Screencast: http://www.minds.may.ie/~dez/images/blog/scribes.html Hompage: http://scribes.sf.net/ It's faster, lighter, simpler and as powerful than the alternatives, and most important it never gets in your way and you would never need to decipher cryptic manuals to do anything moderately productive, unlike some other editors. It's free software too, give it a try. As a bonus, it's written in Python. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Mladen Adamovic wrote: Hi! I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. I've been using wing for quite some time and it's an excellent dedicated editor for python. If you want flexible debugging in a gui environment it's hard to beat. Tim Parkin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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I did a review of Python IDE's at my blog. If you're interested you can take a look:http://www.straw-dogs.co.uk/blog/python-ide-reviewI have a couple of links to other reviews on there too. Worth a look if you're trying to find a good IDE. On 2/20/06, Tim Parkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mladen Adamovic wrote:Hi!I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Pythonprograms. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.I've been using wing for quite some time and it's an excellent dedicated editor for python. If you want flexible debugging in a gui environmentit's hard to beat.Tim Parkin--http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: editor for Python on Linux
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:52:54 +0100, Mladen Adamovic wrote: Hi! I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. eclipse+pydev ? I've never tried it though -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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It was said that Boa is good, but I prefer SPE. WingIDE is good but commercial, I tried it but didn't buy. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:52:54 +0100, Mladen Adamovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. Maybe you try out DrPython. (Written in Python and wxPython, Autocompletion, Calltips, easily extensible with plugins and scripts, source browser, ...) -- Franz Steinhaeusler -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On 2006-02-19, Rene Pijlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I beg to disagree :-) Use ed Ed is the standard text editor. http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html That was 1991. This is 2006. That's a joke, son. A flag waver. You're built too low. The fast ones go over your head. Ya got a hole in your glove. I keep pitchin' 'em and you keep missin' 'em. Ya gotta keep your eye on the ball. Eye. Ball. I almost had a gag, son. Joke, that is. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Wait... is this a FUN at THING or the END of LIFE in visi.comPetticoat Junction?? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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You could try Eclipse with Pydev: http://pydev.sf.net or its commercial counterpart: Pydev Extensions: http://www.fabioz.com/pydev -- runs on linux / mac / windows ... Cheers, Fabio -- Fabio Zadrozny -- Software Developer ESSS - Engineering Simulation and Scientific Software www.esss.com.br Pydev Extensions http://www.fabioz.com/pydev PyDev - Python Development Enviroment for Eclipse http://pydev.sf.net http://pydev.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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He said IDE. That means vim -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Mladen Adamovic wrote: I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. I've got a lot of replies on this message. In jEdit auto ident don't work OK. Answers like vi, emacs and gedit I won't take seriously. For gods sake, gedit don't even have syntax highlighting (at least on Centos 4.2). I would like syntax highlighting, auto ident and if possible auto completition and embedded help. I downloaded a couple of sugestions and I will try it. Thank you for your answers :) . -- Mladen Adamovic home page: http://home.blic.net/adamm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Mladen Adamovic wrote: Mladen Adamovic wrote: I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. I've got a lot of replies on this message. In jEdit auto ident don't work OK. Answers like vi, emacs and gedit I won't take seriously. For gods sake, gedit don't even have syntax highlighting (at least on Centos 4.2). Actually gedit does have syntax highlighting and works quite well. If you put down emacs so casually you obviously have no experience with one of the most powerful text editors available. I don't use because I like the X windows editors more. Basically any editor that can insert spaces for tabs and maintain indentation level works well. For Unices: I like cooledit, besides syntax highlighting for a variety of languages, it uses python as its internal scripting language and has a powerful indent/undent feature. xcoral is good, another highly configurable editor. gedit idle ee (also know as aee) works pretty decently for maintaining tabbing vi (*not* vim, which is a travesty that doesn't even work right) if nothing else is available For M$: Idle PFE vim -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Mladen Adamovic wrote: Answers like vi, emacs and gedit I won't take seriously. I don't know anything about gedit, but why not take Emacs and Vim (not vi) seriously? I would like syntax highlighting, auto ident and if possible auto completition and embedded help. Both certainly give you those and *so* much more. -- Benji York -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Boa-Constructor is an IDE rather than an editor. Although it focuses on wxPython, it has a good editor. Yes, some possibilities are pretty good, like for instance the findAll/findInFiles keeping the results in a new tab (I never saw this elsewhere). Another useful is having the debugger launching the application in a separate process, an excellent way to avoid bugs pollution coming into the IDE. rgds jm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Mladen Adamovic napisał(a): I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. Komodo isn't perfect either. Nothing is perfect, except God and human laziness. I like Komodo, it plays well with my laziness. -- Jarek Zgoda http://jpa.berlios.de/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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(I never saw this elsewhere). FYI SPE has these two features as well... Stani --- SPE - http://pythonide.stani.be -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually gedit does have syntax highlighting and works quite well. Uops, it seems that I should give a second chance to it, I haven't noticed its settings. If you put down emacs so casually you obviously have no experience with one of the most powerful text editors available. I don't use because I like the X windows editors more. I know that emacs is powerfull editor but I'm not used to it. Basically any editor that can insert spaces for tabs and maintain indentation level works well. jEdit don't maintain indentation level correct (it was my first try) then I googled a bit and was confused so I posted a message here :). -- Mladen Adamovic home page: http://home.blic.net/adamm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Benji York wrote: I don't know anything about gedit, but why not take Emacs and Vim (not vi) seriously? I'm not used to their approach. I usually program in Java but recently I reliazed if I'm making Linux shell scripts, Python seems to be good choice to me. So, that Pydev Eclipse plug-in (or some other) seems interested. -- Mladen Adamovic home page: http://home.blic.net/adamm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On 2/20/06, billie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really think that IDLE is one of the best around in Python source editing. For me, I find that IDLE is about the worse for editing Python sources. I used to use Notepad++ before I started using Boa. Sometimes I still use Notepad++ because I can easly right click on a file to open it up in Notepad++. I use the editor that comes with Dabo. It has most features that any good python editor has. It does CURRENTLY lack many options, however that will change in the future. All of Dabo is being worked on and updated a lot, sometimes as much as 10-15 things changed, added and/or fixed in a day. Although, you will want the svn version for the most resent changes. -- -Echo -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Sriram == Sriram Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mladen Adamovic wrote: Hi! I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. Check out http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors. I personally use Emacs Yeah, emacs: yeah. Particularly with the Emacs Code Browser add-on. R, C -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Mladen Adamovic: I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. vi -- René Pijlman -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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# I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python # programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. It depends on what you need; what don't you like about JEdit? What do you think a good editor or IDE should provide? -- Jonathan Daugherty http://www.parsed.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Mladen Adamovic wrote: Hi! I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. Check out http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors. I personally use Emacs -- Sriram -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Mladen Adamovic wrote: Hi! I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. Nothing is perfect ... but try SciTE and Eric http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric3.html --Armin http://www.steinhoff-automation.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Le Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:33:59 +0100, Rene Pijlman a écrit : Mladen Adamovic: I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. vi I beg to disagree :-) Use ed Ed is the standard text editor. http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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SPE: http://pythonide.stani.be I use it on Ubuntu. For a quick start, view: http://showmedo.com/videoListPage?listKey=PythonDevelopmentWithSPE Stani -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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F. Petitjean: Rene Pijlman: vi I beg to disagree :-) Use ed Ed is the standard text editor. http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html That was 1991. This is 2006. -- René Pijlman -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Sriram Krishnan: Check out http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors. This page can't be taken seriously. vi is not listed. -- René Pijlman -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Rene Pijlman wrote: Mladen Adamovic: I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. vi Scite is a good editor. It is available for both Windows and Linux. Boa-Constructor is an IDE rather than an editor. Although it focuses on wxPython, it has a good editor. Colin W -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Rene Pijlman wrote: Sriram Krishnan: Check out http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors. This page can't be taken seriously. vi is not listed. I hope your wink key is broken; I wouldn't wish old-school vi on my worst enemy. Fortunately that page lists the wonderful Vim instead, so seriousness has been maintained. To the OP: a serious editor is a basic necessity of coding, so pick Emacs, Vim, or something equivalent. Just make sure it's customizable and you enjoy customizing it because you'll want to. -- Benji York -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Mladen Adamovic enlightened us with: I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. I use gvim (if I have X) and vim (if I don't). The only negative thing about it, is its learning curve ;-) Sybren -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Mladen Adamovic wrote: Hi! I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. My personal favorite is Kate (comes with KDE). - Duck -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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