gui application on cross platform

2007-05-27 Thread james_027
Hi,

I am using delphi to develop gui application, and wish to make a shift
to python. here are some of my question/concern...

1. is python develop gui application a cross platform? just like java
swing?
2. delphi makes things easy for me like coding for a specific event on
a specific component, could it be the same for python?
3. are there cool library of component like in delphi available for
python that will make database application more usesable?
4. where do I start the learning curve? I did some research and I
don't know which one to take among wxwdiget, pygtk, and etc.


Thanks
james

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Re: gui application on cross platform

2007-05-28 Thread Stefano Canepa
On 28 Mag, 08:01, james_027 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using delphi to develop gui application, and wish to make a shift
> to python. here are some of my question/concern...
>
> 1. is python develop gui application a cross platform? just like java
> swing?

Yes. Qt, wxwidgets and pygtk run on Linux and Windows, don't know
about Macs.

> 2. delphi makes things easy for me like coding for a specific event on
> a specific component, could it be the same for python?

Not in the Delphi way but glade/gazpacho are good GUI designer for
gtk.
I have no experience with qtdesigner or the wx equivalent app.

> 3. are there cool library of component like in delphi available for
> python that will make database application more usesable?

python has dbapi, all DBs look the same, python can also use ORM like
SQLObjects and SQLALchemy

> 4. where do I start the learning curve? I did some research and I
> don't know which one to take among wxwdiget, pygtk, and etc.

I tried wxwidgets and pygtk, then I decided to use pygtk but it
could be I'll change my mind in the future.

Bye
sc

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Re: gui application on cross platform

2007-05-28 Thread james_027
On May 28, 3:06 pm, Stefano Canepa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 28 Mag, 08:01, james_027 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I am using delphi to develop gui application, and wish to make a shift
> > to python. here are some of my question/concern...
>
> > 1. is python develop gui application a cross platform? just like java
> > swing?
>
> Yes. Qt, wxwidgets and pygtk run on Linux and Windows, don't know
> about Macs.
>
> > 2. delphi makes things easy for me like coding for a specific event on
> > a specific component, could it be the same for python?
>
> Not in the Delphi way but glade/gazpacho are good GUI designer for
> gtk.
> I have no experience with qtdesigner or the wx equivalent app.
>
> > 3. are there cool library of component like in delphi available for
> > python that will make database application more usesable?
>
> python has dbapi, all DBs look the same, python can also use ORM like
> SQLObjects and SQLALchemy
>
> > 4. where do I start the learning curve? I did some research and I
> > don't know which one to take among wxwdiget, pygtk, and etc.
>
> I tried wxwidgets and pygtk, then I decided to use pygtk but it
> could be I'll change my mind in the future.
>
> Bye
> sc

Thanks sc,

What do you mean when you say .."all DBs look the same"

what is the difference between pygtk and wxwidgets?

bye
james

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Re: gui application on cross platform

2007-05-28 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Mon, 28 May 2007 04:28:50 -0300, james_027 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
escribió:

> I am using delphi to develop gui application, and wish to make a shift
> to python. here are some of my question/concern...

Explore the Python wiki, specially  
 and ChoosingGuiToolkits.
Here you have and "Intelligent GUI chooser"  

Search previous posts on this group too as this is a recurring topic.

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Re: gui application on cross platform

2007-05-28 Thread Matt van de Werken
james_027 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am using delphi to develop gui application, and wish to make a shift
> to python. here are some of my question/concern...
> 
> 1. is python develop gui application a cross platform? just like java
> swing?
> 2. delphi makes things easy for me like coding for a specific event on
> a specific component, could it be the same for python?
> 3. are there cool library of component like in delphi available for
> python that will make database application more usesable?
> 4. where do I start the learning curve? I did some research and I
> don't know which one to take among wxwdiget, pygtk, and etc.
> 
> 

I'm also going down this path, and have decided on python + wxWidgets + 
boa as the RAD tool.  From the tutorial, it seems pretty easy to use, 
except for some minor annoyances on both windows and linux platforms.

Under windows, for some inexplicable reason the "dialogs" tab is not 
present, while under linux, I can't seem to drag components around the 
frame after placement.

Cheers,
mvdw
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Re: gui application on cross platform

2007-05-28 Thread johnf
james_027 wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am using delphi to develop gui application, and wish to make a shift
> to python. here are some of my question/concern...
> 
> 1. is python develop gui application a cross platform? just like java
> swing?
> 2. delphi makes things easy for me like coding for a specific event on
> a specific component, could it be the same for python?
> 3. are there cool library of component like in delphi available for
> python that will make database application more usesable?
> 4. where do I start the learning curve? I did some research and I
> don't know which one to take among wxwdiget, pygtk, and etc.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> james
May I suggest you take a close look at Dabo (www.dabodev.com).  Dabo was
designed from the ground up to do exact what you are asking for.  Take a
look at the Dabo screencast
(http://leafe.com/screencasts/dataenvironment1.html)
which will provide an easy review of most of what Dabo can do.  

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Re: gui application on cross platform

2007-05-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 28, 2007, at 2:01 AM, james_027 wrote:

> I am using delphi to develop gui application, and wish to make a shift
> to python. here are some of my question/concern...
>
> 1. is python develop gui application a cross platform? just like java
> swing?

wxPython is probably the best cross-platform GUI toolkit available  
for Python. That's why we chose it for our primary UI toolkit for Dabo.

> 2. delphi makes things easy for me like coding for a specific event on
> a specific component, could it be the same for python?

Not in Python per se, but I know exactly what you mean.

I come from the Visual FoxPro world, which is very similar to  
Delphi. I stumbled upon Python, and quickly discovered that it was  
far and away the best language I've programmed in in over 3 decades  
of coding. Yet it lacked anything like the power of GUI development  
that tools such as Delphi or Visual FoxPro offered. So along with my  
partner Paul McNett, we set out to create such a tool, and that is Dabo.

> 3. are there cool library of component like in delphi available for
> python that will make database application more usesable?

One word: Dabo. We do database apps.

> 4. where do I start the learning curve? I did some research and I
> don't know which one to take among wxwdiget, pygtk, and etc.

Check out our collection of screencasts to see what Dabo can do for  
you (http://dabodev.com/documentation). Post messages to the dabo- 
users list to get answers to any questions you might have (sign up at  
http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/dabo-users).

There are a ton of web frameworks out there. But for Python, there  
is only one desktop app framework: Dabo.

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RE: gui application on cross platform

2007-05-28 Thread Eiwot

Yes, Python can develop cross platform application. I'm using PyGTK which is a 
binding between GTK and Python. Check it out at http://pyarticles.blogspot.com
 
Cheers> Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:52:08 +1000> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Subject: Re: gui application on cross platform> To: python-list@python.org> > 
james_027 wrote:> > Hi,> > > > I am using delphi to develop gui application, 
and wish to make a shift> > to python. here are some of my question/concern...> 
> > > 1. is python develop gui application a cross platform? just like java> > 
swing?> > 2. delphi makes things easy for me like coding for a specific event 
on> > a specific component, could it be the same for python?> > 3. are there 
cool library of component like in delphi available for> > python that will make 
database application more usesable?> > 4. where do I start the learning curve? 
I did some research and I> > don't know which one to take among wxwdiget, 
pygtk, and etc.> > > > > > I'm also going down this path, and have decided on 
python + wxWidgets + > boa as the RAD tool. From the tutorial, it seems pretty 
easy to use, > except for some minor annoyances on both windows and linux 
platforms.> > Under windows, for some inexplicable reason the "dialogs" tab is 
not > present, while under linux, I can't seem to drag components around the > 
frame after placement.> > Cheers,> mvdw> -- > 
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Re: gui application on cross platform

2007-05-28 Thread Etienne Hilson
> > james_027 wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am using delphi to develop gui application, and wish to make a shift
> > > to python. here are some of my question/concern...
> > >
> > > 1. is python develop gui application a cross platform? just like java
> > > swing?

My first programming language was Delphi, and (after having to work
several years with java), I had to restart programming, but only for
my little home purpose (educatives for my children).
I dive into python and I love it !
In a couple of days, I did a little program to manage and launch the
roms of some console emulators with screenshots.
I develop it and use it on my laptop on Gentoo linux, and run it on
the windows desktop of my children. NO line has to be modified between
the os, it is fantastic !
I use simple python for console text apps, wxPython for management
graphical applications, and pygame for some little full of sprites
games :-)

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Re: gui application on cross platform

2007-05-29 Thread Stefano Canepa
On 28 Mag, 09:28, james_027 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On May 28, 3:06 pm, Stefano Canepa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 28 Mag, 08:01, james_027 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I am using delphi to develop gui application, and wish to make a shift
> > > to python. here are some of my question/concern...
>
> > > 1. is python develop gui application a cross platform? just like java
> > > swing?
>
> > Yes. Qt, wxwidgets and pygtk run on Linux and Windows, don't know
> > about Macs.
>
> > > 2. delphi makes things easy for me like coding for a specific event on
> > > a specific component, could it be the same for python?
>
> > Not in the Delphi way but glade/gazpacho are good GUI designer for
> > gtk.
> > I have no experience with qtdesigner or the wx equivalent app.
>
> > > 3. are there cool library of component like in delphi available for
> > > python that will make database application more usesable?
>
> > python has dbapi, all DBs look the same, python can also use ORM like
> > SQLObjects and SQLALchemy
>
> > > 4. where do I start the learning curve? I did some research and I
> > > don't know which one to take among wxwdiget, pygtk, and etc.
>
> > I tried wxwidgets and pygtk, then I decided to use pygtk but it
> > could be I'll change my mind in the future.
>
> > Bye
> > sc
>
> Thanks sc,
>
> What do you mean when you say .."all DBs look the same"

That via dbapi you can use different DBs using the same API.

> what is the difference between pygtk and wxwidgets?

pygtk uses GTK
wxwidget use a different gui toolkit on different platform. It is
probably the best crossplatform GUI.
I used pyGTK simply becouse my GUI apps runs only on gnome.

Bye
sc

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