Re: python 3.10 vs breakage

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 17:36:39 -0400, gene heskett 
declaimed the following:

>
>Bullseye is the current debian-11, buster is last years, bookworm is next.
>
>Linuxcnc builds just fine on armhf buster, with its python-3.9.4. fails 
>from 3.10 in bullseye. Pronterface.py can't find wxPython 4.0 or 
>greater, with 4.0.7 installed. Octoprint did work, but has now stopped. 
>So my 3d printing has become a sneakernet exercise again. Adding 3 to 5 
>more steps between OpenCSAD and the printer that will make my designs. 

All of this suggests to me that you need to make your complaints to the
Debian devs WRT how they have configured things (or, if using an R-Pi, the
R-Pi Foundation, as they customize Debian for their release).
.


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Re: python 3.10 vs breakage

[gene heskett]

On 8/26/22 21:35, Michael Torrie wrote:

On 8/26/22 14:37, gene heskett wrote:

Greetings all;

Its now become obvious that 3.10 has broken some things. I can't build
linuxcnc with it. And
Octoprint has quit talking to 3d printers, now pronterface won't buy it,
can't find a 4.0.7
version of wxPython with it sitting there staring at us.

I have Fedora 35 here, nearing it's end of life. It has Python 3.10.6,
and wxPython 4.0.7.  I installed Pronterface 2.0.0 from the Fedora repos
and it runs fine as near as I can tell.  So there's no inherent
incompatibility with Python 3.10 and wxPython 4.0.7.


Whats chances of a fixed version for bookworm? Or even a bugs fixed
release for bullseye?

Seems like it is a distro-specific problem; I cannot replicate your
error with pronterface on Fedora 35.

I have no idea why octoprint won't work.

This is good to know as it helps to narrow down the battlefield.

Octoprint now gets stuck claiming the printer is continuously requesting 
a repeat of line one,
but It works fine if the gcode file is put on its sd card and printed 
from the printers menu.


Octoprint is supposed to be able to handle more than one printer, but 
this change occurred after
I had plugged in another printer and tried to add it. It was working 
great with a prusa mk3S+.


And I'm trying to resurrect an Ender 5 Plus that has forgotten how to 
use any of the 3 BLTouch's
I have. So I've replaced the head with a volcano version of an E3D-V6 
and have a prox switch
with the wrong logic output mounted in place of the BLTouch. It seems 
amazon is not immune to
ID10T vendors. I ordered npn-no's and got pnp-nc's. Even the label on 
the devices cable is wrong.


The head replacement includes an Orbiter V2 extruder sitting on top of 
the volcano, with me
designing and printing the adapters. but still with the long capricorn 
tube feed to
absorb the jerking on the feed spool the mk3s+ does. Even with the much 
improved grip a bondtech
LGX extruder on the mk3s+ gives, I can still see artifacts of the spool 
jerk as it runs left/right

in the print.

Vertical flex in the head transport suspension rods I believe. So I've 
eliminated that
geometry error on the Ender 5 plus by interposing a fixed length of 
tubing so it doesn't

jerk on the spool as the head moves.

The Dell with an i5 in it had its video out nullified by some noisy 
weather 20 days back,
so I pulled out a 5 amp 5 volt box and hung a rock64/w/4gigs on it to 
run octoprint on, but
it quit working on the mk3s+ when I plugged in the Ender. I'll probably 
have to re-install

it all. Easy enough since I have armbian bullseye's img file here.

The target of all this is production of a woodworking tool using modern 
cnc wood carving and
3d printing, of a device I see selling in the 3 digit price range on 
ebay that you'll hand
down to your great grandkids if they are interested in fine woodworking 
as a means to buy
groceries, good housing and nice wheels.  At my age, I'm that great 
great grandpa. Looking to
supplement my SS in my dotage. A retired broadcast engineer, a C.E.T., 
approaching the end
of my time here as I look at the calendar and see my 88th coming up 
shortly. I'd like to
leave something useful behind. It will take at least 2 working printers 
to keep up with the
output of one of my milling machines if sales materialize. 3d printers 
are not fast. A screw
I can carve in 2 days, takes about 2 weeks to print the rest of it. 
Production, 20 a year, maybe.


Thanks everybody.  Take care and stay well.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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Re: python 3.10 vs breakage

[Michael Torrie]

On 8/26/22 14:37, gene heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
> 
> Its now become obvious that 3.10 has broken some things. I can't build 
> linuxcnc with it. And
> Octoprint has quit talking to 3d printers, now pronterface won't buy it, 
> can't find a 4.0.7
> version of wxPython with it sitting there staring at us.

I have Fedora 35 here, nearing it's end of life. It has Python 3.10.6,
and wxPython 4.0.7.  I installed Pronterface 2.0.0 from the Fedora repos
and it runs fine as near as I can tell.  So there's no inherent
incompatibility with Python 3.10 and wxPython 4.0.7.

> Whats chances of a fixed version for bookworm? Or even a bugs fixed 
> release for bullseye?

Seems like it is a distro-specific problem; I cannot replicate your
error with pronterface on Fedora 35.

I have no idea why octoprint won't work.
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Re: python 3.10 vs breakage

[Paul Bryan]

The pronterface README doc [1] recommends Python 3.6, so I'd say that
it's likely incompatible with changes in Python 3.10. I think your best
option would be to either downgrade to their recommended version of
Python, or file an issue in their GitHub repository to address the
incompatibility. 

[1] https://github.com/kliment/Printrun/blob/master/README.md

On Fri, 2022-08-26 at 17:36 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 8/26/22 16:54, Paul Bryan wrote:
> > Why can't you build linuxcnc with it? Why has Octoprint quit
> > talking to
> > 3d printers? Why won't pronterface buy it? Why can't you find a
> > 4.0.7
> > version of wxPython? Why is it sitting there staring at you? What
> > is
> > bookworm? What is bullseye?
> 
> Bullseye is the current debian-11, buster is last years, bookworm is
> next.
> 
> Linuxcnc builds just fine on armhf buster, with its python-3.9.4.
> fails 
> from 3.10 in bullseye. Pronterface.py can't find wxPython 4.0 or 
> greater, with 4.0.7 installed. Octoprint did work, but has now
> stopped. 
> So my 3d printing has become a sneakernet exercise again. Adding 3 to
> 5 
> more steps between OpenCSAD and the printer that will make my
> designs. 
> The error code file from this mornings attempt to run pronterface.py
> is at
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a workaround?
> 
> Thank you.
> > On Fri, 2022-08-26 at 16:37 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > > Greetings all;
> > > 
> > > Its now become obvious that 3.10 has broken some things. I can't
> > > build
> > > linuxcnc with it. And
> > > Octoprint has quit talking to 3d printers, now pronterface won't
> > > buy
> > > it,
> > > can't find a 4.0.7
> > > version of wxPython with it sitting there staring at us.
> > > 
> > > Whats chances of a fixed version for bookworm? Or even a bugs
> > > fixed
> > > release for bullseye?
> > > 
> > > Thanks all.
> > > 
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> > > -- 
> > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > >    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
> > > respectable.
> > >    - Louis D. Brandeis
> > > Genes Web page 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.

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Re: python 3.10 vs breakage

[gene heskett]

On 8/26/22 16:54, Paul Bryan wrote:

Why can't you build linuxcnc with it? Why has Octoprint quit talking to
3d printers? Why won't pronterface buy it? Why can't you find a 4.0.7
version of wxPython? Why is it sitting there staring at you? What is
bookworm? What is bullseye?


Bullseye is the current debian-11, buster is last years, bookworm is next.

Linuxcnc builds just fine on armhf buster, with its python-3.9.4. fails 
from 3.10 in bullseye. Pronterface.py can't find wxPython 4.0 or 
greater, with 4.0.7 installed. Octoprint did work, but has now stopped. 
So my 3d printing has become a sneakernet exercise again. Adding 3 to 5 
more steps between OpenCSAD and the printer that will make my designs. 
The error code file from this mornings attempt to run pronterface.py is at




Is there a workaround?

Thank you.

On Fri, 2022-08-26 at 16:37 -0400, gene heskett wrote:

Greetings all;

Its now become obvious that 3.10 has broken some things. I can't
build
linuxcnc with it. And
Octoprint has quit talking to 3d printers, now pronterface won't buy
it,
can't find a 4.0.7
version of wxPython with it sitting there staring at us.

Whats chances of a fixed version for bookworm? Or even a bugs fixed
release for bullseye?

Thanks all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
   soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
respectable.
   - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 






Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
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Re: python 3.10 vs breakage

[Paul Bryan]

Why can't you build linuxcnc with it? Why has Octoprint quit talking to
3d printers? Why won't pronterface buy it? Why can't you find a 4.0.7
version of wxPython? Why is it sitting there staring at you? What is
bookworm? What is bullseye?

On Fri, 2022-08-26 at 16:37 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
> 
> Its now become obvious that 3.10 has broken some things. I can't
> build 
> linuxcnc with it. And
> Octoprint has quit talking to 3d printers, now pronterface won't buy
> it, 
> can't find a 4.0.7
> version of wxPython with it sitting there staring at us.
> 
> Whats chances of a fixed version for bookworm? Or even a bugs fixed 
> release for bullseye?
> 
> Thanks all.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> -- 
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>   soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
> respectable.
>   - Louis D. Brandeis
> Genes Web page 
> 

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python 3.10 vs breakage

[gene heskett]

Greetings all;

Its now become obvious that 3.10 has broken some things. I can't build 
linuxcnc with it. And
Octoprint has quit talking to 3d printers, now pronterface won't buy it, 
can't find a 4.0.7

version of wxPython with it sitting there staring at us.

Whats chances of a fixed version for bookworm? Or even a bugs fixed 
release for bullseye?


Thanks all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

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