Re: python book

[John Doe]

On 2019-04-16, Larry Martell  wrote:
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/bc2606/just_found_the_best_python_bookcover
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python book

[Larry Martell]

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Lightweight Learn Python book

[Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer]

wrote a small guide on python,
feedbacks appreciated

https://www.pythonmembers.club/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/lightweight_learn_python_draft_1-1.pdf

Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
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Re: ANN: Python 201 - Intermediate Python book

[Chris Angelico]

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Ethan Furman  wrote:
> Note:  I'm not affiliated with the book, probably won't pledge (only a
> couple topics apply to me), but I am a KickStarter fan (having purchased
> more games than was probably wise ;) .

Heh, me too - though more other things than games. Between Kickstarter
and Twitch.tv, I've collected a lot of great artwork and Alice in
Wonderland memorabilia.

This also isn't for me, but if anyone's interested, I strongly
encourage going for it. Don't worry if you don't have the money yet;
you won't be charged until the campaign ends (in a week or
thereabouts). Get the book sooner than anyone else does, and be a part
of making it happen!

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Re: ANN: Python 201 - Intermediate Python book

[Mike Driscoll]

On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 2:21:08 PM UTC-5, Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 03/30/2016 11:41 AM, justin walters wrote:
> 
> > That absolutely answers my questions. I'll keep an eye out for your book
> > when it is realeased. It seems like it will cover some topics that could be
> > useful in continuing my learning.
> 
> KickStarter plug:
> 
> If you want to pledge to buying the book now on KickStarter, that will 
> guarantee you the book when it comes out, plus contribute to possibly 
> have more content in the book as higher reward levels are unlocked.
> 
> Currenty his book is past the "it will definitely happen" stage, and the 
> next reward level will unsure even more content.
> 
> Note:  I'm not affiliated with the book, probably won't pledge (only a 
> couple topics apply to me), but I am a KickStarter fan (having purchased 
> more games than was probably wise ;) .
> 
> --
> ~Ethan~

You'll also get early access to the book so you'll get to see the chapters as 
soon as I'm done with them (most of the time).

Mike

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Re: ANN: Python 201 - Intermediate Python book

[Ethan Furman]

On 03/30/2016 11:41 AM, justin walters wrote:


That absolutely answers my questions. I'll keep an eye out for your book
when it is realeased. It seems like it will cover some topics that could be
useful in continuing my learning.


KickStarter plug:

If you want to pledge to buying the book now on KickStarter, that will 
guarantee you the book when it comes out, plus contribute to possibly 
have more content in the book as higher reward levels are unlocked.


Currenty his book is past the "it will definitely happen" stage, and the 
next reward level will unsure even more content.


Note:  I'm not affiliated with the book, probably won't pledge (only a 
couple topics apply to me), but I am a KickStarter fan (having purchased 
more games than was probably wise ;) .


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Re: ANN: Python 201 - Intermediate Python book

[justin walters]

On Mar 30, 2016 11:21 AM, "Mike Driscoll"  wrote:
>
> Hi Justin,
>
> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
> >
> > Can you go over a couple of the topics you are going to cover?
> >
> > Are you going to cover any of the most popular packages such as Django
and
> > scrapy?
>
> Sure! I'm planning on covering several of the more popular
intermediate-level modules from Python's standard library, such as
collections, contextlib, functools and itertools.
>
> I am also going to be covering benchmarking, encryption, connecting to
databases, etc.
>
> There is a section on Web-related chapters. While I don't plan to cover a
web framework, I am going to cover other items related to working with the
internet using Python. I do plan to talk about creating a web crawler /
scraper, but I hadn't decided if I was going to use scrapy for that or not.
I also plan to write about working with web APIs, such as Amazon's or
Google's APIs. There will probably be some kind of chapter about Selenium /
Web Driver too. I have some other ideas too.
>
> I hope that answered your question.
>
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That absolutely answers my questions. I'll keep an eye out for your book
when it is realeased. It seems like it will cover some topics that could be
useful in continuing my learning.

I am especially interested in encryption as that is something I have yet to
dive into.
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Re: ANN: Python 201 - Intermediate Python book

[Mike Driscoll]

Hi Justin,

> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
> 
> Can you go over a couple of the topics you are going to cover?
> 
> Are you going to cover any of the most popular packages such as Django and
> scrapy?

Sure! I'm planning on covering several of the more popular intermediate-level 
modules from Python's standard library, such as collections, contextlib, 
functools and itertools.

I am also going to be covering benchmarking, encryption, connecting to 
databases, etc.

There is a section on Web-related chapters. While I don't plan to cover a web 
framework, I am going to cover other items related to working with the internet 
using Python. I do plan to talk about creating a web crawler / scraper, but I 
hadn't decided if I was going to use scrapy for that or not. I also plan to 
write about working with web APIs, such as Amazon's or Google's APIs. There 
will probably be some kind of chapter about Selenium / Web Driver too. I have 
some other ideas too.

I hope that answered your question.

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Re: ANN: Python 201 - Intermediate Python book

[justin walters]

On Mar 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Mike Driscoll"  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that I am hard at work on my second book,
which is entitled Python 201 which will come out this Fall 2016. I
currently have a Kickstarter going where you can pre-order the book:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/34257246/python-201-intermediate-python
>
> I actually posted to this list last year about what you would consider to
be intermediate topics in Python. From that discussion and from some ideas
I had already been working, this book was born. The book is aimed for
people who already know the basics of Python but would like to learn more.
It is also written with Python 3 in mind.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Driscoll
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Can you go over a couple of the topics you are going to cover?

Are you going to cover any of the most popular packages such as Django and
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ANN: Python 201 - Intermediate Python book

[Mike Driscoll]

Hi,

I just wanted to let you know that I am hard at work on my second book, which 
is entitled Python 201 which will come out this Fall 2016. I currently have a 
Kickstarter going where you can pre-order the book: 
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/34257246/python-201-intermediate-python

I actually posted to this list last year about what you would consider to be 
intermediate topics in Python. From that discussion and from some ideas I had 
already been working, this book was born. The book is aimed for people who 
already know the basics of Python but would like to learn more. It is also 
written with Python 3 in mind. 

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Mike Driscoll

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Re: Syntax error (The Python Book) Linux User and Developer Bookazine

[Larry Hudson via Python-list]

On 02/15/2016 07:06 AM, Joel Goldstick wrote:
[snip a lot...]


Learn Python the Hard Way is pretty good some people say.  Its online.
Also Diving into Python is online written by the now offline Mark Pilgrim.


I have a couple of "Hard Way" books and personally, I don't like his style of 
teaching.

Of course, take that as one person's opinion -- and as always, YMMV.   :-)

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Re: Syntax error (The Python Book) Linux User and Developer Bookazine

[Geoff Munn]

On Monday, 15 February 2016 15:07:03 UTC, Joel Goldstick  wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Geoff Munn  wrote:
> 
> > On Sunday, 14 February 2016 13:39:52 UTC, Geoff Munn  wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Noob at the Python thing so here goes,
> > >
> > > I have copied a program to demonstrate control structures in Python but
> > get a syntax error at line 31, isint = False. I'm using Python 2.7.6 and
> > Linux Mint based around ubuntu14.04.1. I have pasted all the code below,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > #!/usr/bin/env python2
> > >
> > > '''
> > > We are going to write a program that will ask for the user to input an
> > arbitary
> > > number of integers, store them in a collection, and then demonstrate how
> > > the collection would be used with various control structures
> > > '''
> > >
> > > import sys  # Used for the sys.exit function
> > >
> > > target_int=raw_input("How many integers?")
> > >
> > > '''
> > > By now the variable target_int contains a string representation of
> > > whatever the user typed. We nee to try and convert that to an integer but
> > > be ready to deal with the error if it's not. Otherwise the program will
> > crash
> > > '''
> > >
> > > try:
> > > target_int=int(target_int)
> > > except ValueError:
> > > sys.exit("You must enter an integer")
> > >
> > > ints=list()  # list to store the integers
> > >
> > > count = 0  # Track how many integers have been inputted
> > >
> > > # Keep asking for a number until we have reached the required number
> > > while count < target_int:
> > > new_int=raw_input("Please enter integer {0}:".format(count +1)
> > > isint = False
> > > try:
> > > new_int=int(new_int)  # If the above succeeds then isint will
> > > #be set to true: isint = True
> > >
> > > except:
> > > print("You must enter an integer")
> > >
> > > '''
> > > Only carry on if we have an integer. If not we will loop again.
> > > The == below is a comparision operator, a single = is an asignment
> > operator
> > > '''
> > > if isnit==True:
> > > ints.append(new_int)  # Adds the integer to the collection
> > > count += 1  # Count is incremented by 1
> > > # The for loop
> > > print ("Using a for loop")
> > > for values in ints:
> > > print (str(value))
> > > # The while loop
> > > print ("Using a while loop")
> > > total=len(ints)  # We already have the total from above but using
> > len we can determine from the ints list.
> > > count = 0
> > > while count < total:
> > > print (str(ints[count]))
> > > count += 1
> >
> > Thanks Peter and Chris, yes missed the parentheses by taking the error as
> > being in line 31, DOH but a lesson learned. I have checked and checked the
> > code I entered against the provided code and had to make some more changes
> > to at least go through the first while loop but have given up on the rest
> > of it. Given your comments do you think its worth persevering with this
> > book or is there a better 'entry' into Python programming?
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> >
> 
> 
> Learn Python the Hard Way is pretty good some people say.  Its online.
> Also Diving into Python is online written by the now offline Mark Pilgrim.
> -- 
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> http://joelgoldstick.com/stats/birthdays

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Re: Syntax error (The Python Book) Linux User and Developer Bookazine

[Joel Goldstick]

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Geoff Munn  wrote:

> On Sunday, 14 February 2016 13:39:52 UTC, Geoff Munn  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Noob at the Python thing so here goes,
> >
> > I have copied a program to demonstrate control structures in Python but
> get a syntax error at line 31, isint = False. I'm using Python 2.7.6 and
> Linux Mint based around ubuntu14.04.1. I have pasted all the code below,
> >
> >
> >
> > #!/usr/bin/env python2
> >
> > '''
> > We are going to write a program that will ask for the user to input an
> arbitary
> > number of integers, store them in a collection, and then demonstrate how
> > the collection would be used with various control structures
> > '''
> >
> > import sys  # Used for the sys.exit function
> >
> > target_int=raw_input("How many integers?")
> >
> > '''
> > By now the variable target_int contains a string representation of
> > whatever the user typed. We nee to try and convert that to an integer but
> > be ready to deal with the error if it's not. Otherwise the program will
> crash
> > '''
> >
> > try:
> > target_int=int(target_int)
> > except ValueError:
> > sys.exit("You must enter an integer")
> >
> > ints=list()  # list to store the integers
> >
> > count = 0  # Track how many integers have been inputted
> >
> > # Keep asking for a number until we have reached the required number
> > while count < target_int:
> > new_int=raw_input("Please enter integer {0}:".format(count +1)
> > isint = False
> > try:
> > new_int=int(new_int)  # If the above succeeds then isint will
> > #be set to true: isint = True
> >
> > except:
> > print("You must enter an integer")
> >
> > '''
> > Only carry on if we have an integer. If not we will loop again.
> > The == below is a comparision operator, a single = is an asignment
> operator
> > '''
> > if isnit==True:
> > ints.append(new_int)  # Adds the integer to the collection
> > count += 1  # Count is incremented by 1
> > # The for loop
> > print ("Using a for loop")
> > for values in ints:
> > print (str(value))
> > # The while loop
> > print ("Using a while loop")
> > total=len(ints)  # We already have the total from above but using
> len we can determine from the ints list.
> > count = 0
> > while count < total:
> > print (str(ints[count]))
> > count += 1
>
> Thanks Peter and Chris, yes missed the parentheses by taking the error as
> being in line 31, DOH but a lesson learned. I have checked and checked the
> code I entered against the provided code and had to make some more changes
> to at least go through the first while loop but have given up on the rest
> of it. Given your comments do you think its worth persevering with this
> book or is there a better 'entry' into Python programming?
> --
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>


Learn Python the Hard Way is pretty good some people say.  Its online.
Also Diving into Python is online written by the now offline Mark Pilgrim.
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Re: Syntax error (The Python Book) Linux User and Developer Bookazine

[Geoff Munn]

On Sunday, 14 February 2016 13:39:52 UTC, Geoff Munn  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Noob at the Python thing so here goes,
> 
> I have copied a program to demonstrate control structures in Python but get a 
> syntax error at line 31, isint = False. I'm using Python 2.7.6 and Linux Mint 
> based around ubuntu14.04.1. I have pasted all the code below,
> 
> 
> 
> #!/usr/bin/env python2
> 
> '''
> We are going to write a program that will ask for the user to input an 
> arbitary
> number of integers, store them in a collection, and then demonstrate how
> the collection would be used with various control structures
> '''
> 
> import sys  # Used for the sys.exit function
> 
> target_int=raw_input("How many integers?")
> 
> '''
> By now the variable target_int contains a string representation of
> whatever the user typed. We nee to try and convert that to an integer but
> be ready to deal with the error if it's not. Otherwise the program will crash
> '''
> 
> try:
> target_int=int(target_int)
> except ValueError:
> sys.exit("You must enter an integer")
> 
> ints=list()  # list to store the integers
> 
> count = 0  # Track how many integers have been inputted
> 
> # Keep asking for a number until we have reached the required number
> while count < target_int:
> new_int=raw_input("Please enter integer {0}:".format(count +1)
> isint = False
> try:
> new_int=int(new_int)  # If the above succeeds then isint will 
> #be set to true: isint = True
> 
> except:
> print("You must enter an integer")
> 
> '''
> Only carry on if we have an integer. If not we will loop again.
> The == below is a comparision operator, a single = is an asignment 
> operator
> '''
> if isnit==True:
> ints.append(new_int)  # Adds the integer to the collection
> count += 1  # Count is incremented by 1
> # The for loop
> print ("Using a for loop")
> for values in ints:
> print (str(value))
> # The while loop
> print ("Using a while loop")
> total=len(ints)  # We already have the total from above but using len we 
> can determine from the ints list.
> count = 0
> while count < total:
> print (str(ints[count]))
> count += 1

Thanks Peter and Chris, yes missed the parentheses by taking the error as being 
in line 31, DOH but a lesson learned. I have checked and checked the code I 
entered against the provided code and had to make some more changes to at least 
go through the first while loop but have given up on the rest of it. Given your 
comments do you think its worth persevering with this book or is there a better 
'entry' into Python programming?
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Re: Syntax error (The Python Book) Linux User and Developer Bookazine

[Chris Angelico]

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Geoff Munn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Noob at the Python thing so here goes,
>
> I have copied a program to demonstrate control structures in Python but get a 
> syntax error at line 31, isint = False. I'm using Python 2.7.6 and Linux Mint 
> based around ubuntu14.04.1. I have pasted all the code below,
>

Peter's already explained your actual problem, so I'll make a few
other comments about the code - starting with one about... comments.

> '''
> By now the variable target_int contains a string representation of
> whatever the user typed. We nee to try and convert that to an integer but
> be ready to deal with the error if it's not. Otherwise the program will crash
> '''

This isn't a comment. It's a triple-quoted string literal. Since a
string literal as an expression on its own is legal and insignificant,
this doesn't hurt much, but just be aware that these blocks aren't
comments. (BTW, is the typo "nee to try" (s/be "need") from the
original?)

> try:
> target_int=int(target_int)
> except ValueError:
> sys.exit("You must enter an integer")

What does "crash" mean? In the case of Python, failing to check for
this exception will result in a message printed to stderr and program
termination. Instead, the exception is caught... and a message is
printed to stderr and the program terminated. Is it really worth the
effort?

> while count < target_int:
> new_int=raw_input("Please enter integer {0}:".format(count +1)
> isint = False
> try:
> new_int=int(new_int)  # If the above succeeds then isint will
> #be set to true: isint = True
>
> except:
> print("You must enter an integer")

A bare except clause! Bad idea. Never do this. In the *extremely* rare
cases when you actually do want to catch absolutely everything, you
can spell it "except BaseException:", but most of the time, you want
to catch one specific exception.

> '''
> Only carry on if we have an integer. If not we will loop again.
> The == below is a comparision operator, a single = is an asignment 
> operator
> '''
> if isnit==True:
> ints.append(new_int)  # Adds the integer to the collection
> count += 1  # Count is incremented by 1

Despite your comments, isint is never set to true - and isnit is
always going to be a NameError. Based on the number of typos here, I'm
wondering if we can actually depend on the code that IS having
trouble, which Peter mentioned as being a parenthesis count; maybe
these are all transcription errors?

> # The for loop
> print ("Using a for loop")
> for values in ints:
> print (str(value))
> # The while loop
> print ("Using a while loop")
> total=len(ints)  # We already have the total from above but using len we 
> can determine from the ints list.
> count = 0
> while count < total:
> print (str(ints[count]))
> count += 1

These two loops are inside your outer while loop - is that intentional?

I strongly recommend not using the name 'count' for two completely
different jobs in the same loop. Although the first one isn't actually
used, which kinda makes it a bit pointless.

This is not an example of Python best practice. It may be teaching you
some things, but don't imitate its style.

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Re: Syntax error (The Python Book) Linux User and Developer Bookazine

[Peter Otten]

Geoff Munn wrote:

> Noob at the Python thing so here goes,
> 
> I have copied a program to demonstrate control structures in Python but
> get a syntax error at line 31, isint = False. 

Often the actual syntax error in your code is in one of the lines preceding 
the one that Python is complaining about.

> new_int=raw_input("Please enter integer {0}:".format(count +1)
> isint = False

Hint: Do the parentheses match?

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Syntax error (The Python Book) Linux User and Developer Bookazine

[Geoff Munn]

Hi,

Noob at the Python thing so here goes,

I have copied a program to demonstrate control structures in Python but get a 
syntax error at line 31, isint = False. I'm using Python 2.7.6 and Linux Mint 
based around ubuntu14.04.1. I have pasted all the code below,



#!/usr/bin/env python2

'''
We are going to write a program that will ask for the user to input an arbitary
number of integers, store them in a collection, and then demonstrate how
the collection would be used with various control structures
'''

import sys  # Used for the sys.exit function

target_int=raw_input("How many integers?")

'''
By now the variable target_int contains a string representation of
whatever the user typed. We nee to try and convert that to an integer but
be ready to deal with the error if it's not. Otherwise the program will crash
'''

try:
target_int=int(target_int)
except ValueError:
sys.exit("You must enter an integer")

ints=list()  # list to store the integers

count = 0  # Track how many integers have been inputted

# Keep asking for a number until we have reached the required number
while count < target_int:
new_int=raw_input("Please enter integer {0}:".format(count +1)
isint = False
try:
new_int=int(new_int)  # If the above succeeds then isint will 
#be set to true: isint = True

except:
print("You must enter an integer")

'''
Only carry on if we have an integer. If not we will loop again.
The == below is a comparision operator, a single = is an asignment operator
'''
if isnit==True:
ints.append(new_int)  # Adds the integer to the collection
count += 1  # Count is incremented by 1
# The for loop
print ("Using a for loop")
for values in ints:
print (str(value))
# The while loop
print ("Using a while loop")
total=len(ints)  # We already have the total from above but using len we 
can determine from the ints list.
count = 0
while count < total:
print (str(ints[count]))
count += 1
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New Intermediate Python Book

[chuks155]

Hi folks, 

I have just finished my first ebook titled Intermediate Python. It is targeted 
at users from other languages or that have just finished a python programming 
beginners tutorial. It is available at https://leanpub.com/intermediatepython. 
Content includes writings on python data model, object oriented programming, 
function and functional programming, sequence and generators, meta-programming, 
and modules and packages. 

If you would like to provide a review then I am willing to provide a copy for 
such. Just get in touch.
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Re: Python Book In Persian Language (fwd)

[M.-A. Lemburg]

On 12.08.2015 18:53, Laura Creighton wrote:
> Are only English language blogs eligible for planet python?
> This showed up on Python list.  I don't want to ask him if he wants to
> get his blog added if we have a language policy that I am unaware of.

Apparently, we do:

https://github.com/python/planet

FWIW: I think it's better to have different planet installations for
different languages. See the left side on http://planetpython.org/
for a list of planets using other languages than English.

I guess someone could set up a Persian planet installation and
get it added there as well.

> Laura
> 
> 
> --- Forwarded Message
> Date:Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:37:41 +0430
> To:  python-list@python.org
> From:"foo foor" <0x...@mihanmail.ir>
> Subject: Python Book In Persian Language
> 
> 
> Hello, I'm Javad Mokhtari Koushyar from Iran, Hamedan. four month ago I
> started teaching python 3.4.1 in Persian using a blog. first I thought people
> do not pay attention to it but after a week I received very messages that
> makes me to continue and now I am happy that I made a book from my blog posts
> and shared it with different persian sites. I want you to share this event
> because everyday people use my book and send me messages for thanksgiving.
> Thank for yourattention. This is my blog:[1]http://www.iranpython.blog.ir/ .
> 
> goodbye
> Python Is best for ever.
> Javad M. Koushyar
> 
> __
> Persian web-based mail | MihanMail.Com
> 

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Re: Python Book In Persian Language (fwd)

[Laura Creighton]

In a message of Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:53:29 +0200, Laura Creighton writes:
>Are only English language blogs eligible for planet python?
>This showed up on Python list.  I don't want to ask him if he wants to
>get his blog added if we have a language policy that I am unaware of.
>
>Laura

Oh rats, I didn't mean to cc python-list here.  Just count me in as
somebody who would like to see non-English language blogs on planet python.

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Python Book In Persian Language (fwd)

[Laura Creighton]

Are only English language blogs eligible for planet python?
This showed up on Python list.  I don't want to ask him if he wants to
get his blog added if we have a language policy that I am unaware of.

Laura


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Subject: Python Book In Persian Language


Hello, I'm Javad Mokhtari Koushyar from Iran, Hamedan. four month ago I
started teaching python 3.4.1 in Persian using a blog. first I thought people
do not pay attention to it but after a week I received very messages that
makes me to continue and now I am happy that I made a book from my blog posts
and shared it with different persian sites. I want you to share this event
because everyday people use my book and send me messages for thanksgiving.
Thank for yourattention. This is my blog:[1]http://www.iranpython.blog.ir/ .

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Python Book In Persian Language

[foo foor]

Hello, I'm Javad Mokhtari Koushyar from Iran, Hamedan. four month ago I started teaching python 3.4.1 in Persian using a blog. first I thought people do not pay attention to it but after a week I received very messages that makes me to continue and now I am happy that I made a book from my blog posts and shared it with different persian sites. I want you to share this event because everyday people use my book and send me messages for thanksgiving. Thank for yourattention. This is my blog:http://www.iranpython.blog.ir/ .goodbyePython Is best for ever.Javad M. Koushyar

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Re: Good Python Book

[David]

On 9 October 2013 23:55, Schneider  wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a good advanced python book. Most books I looked at up to
> now are on beginners level.
> I don't need a reference (that's online) or a book explaining how to use the
> interpreter or how to use list comprehensions on the one side and skipping
> topics like decorators, metaclasses on the other side.
>
> any suggestions?

https://wiki.python.org/moin/AdvancedBooks
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Re: Good Python Book

[kristof leroux]

Python in Practice - Mark Summerfield

On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 2:55:17 PM UTC+2, Schneider wrote:
> Hi List,
> 
> 
> 
> I'm looking for a good advanced python book. Most books I looked at up 
> 
> to now are on beginners level.
> 
> I don't need a reference (that's online) or a book explaining how to use 
> 
> the interpreter or how to use list comprehensions on the one side and 
> 
> skipping topics like decorators, metaclasses on the other side.
> 
> 
> 
> any suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
> bg,
> 
> Johannes
> 
> 
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Good Python Book

[Schneider]

Hi List,

I'm looking for a good advanced python book. Most books I looked at up 
to now are on beginners level.
I don't need a reference (that's online) or a book explaining how to use 
the interpreter or how to use list comprehensions on the one side and 
skipping topics like decorators, metaclasses on the other side.


any suggestions?

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Re: Best Python book(s) for a pre-teen?

[ishish]

Am 01.08.2013 14:11, schrieb beliav...@aol.com:

On Tuesday, February 18, 2003 2:27:58 PM UTC-5, Mike Silva wrote:

Hi all,

My son is 11 and wants to try programming, partly because it's what 
I
do for a living.  Even though I don't (yet?) use or even know 
Python,
through some unexplainable thought process I've decided it would be 
a

good language to start him off with.


The Art of Problem Solving site, geared toward the best U.S. junior
high and high school math students, offers a 10-week "Introduction to
Programming" class
http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/School/classlist.php that uses
Python. There are weekly lectures in an online classroom and graded
homework assignments. My 10yo boy is taking the class. But he tells 
me

JavaScript is his favorite language :).


I would have a look at this one: 
http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/csclub/book.pdf. If you like it you can 
still buy the print version.


sas
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Re: Best Python book(s) for a pre-teen?

[beliavsky]

On Tuesday, February 18, 2003 2:27:58 PM UTC-5, Mike Silva wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> My son is 11 and wants to try programming, partly because it's what I
> do for a living.  Even though I don't (yet?) use or even know Python,
> through some unexplainable thought process I've decided it would be a
> good language to start him off with.

The Art of Problem Solving site, geared toward the best U.S. junior high and 
high school math students, offers a 10-week "Introduction to Programming" class 
http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/School/classlist.php that uses Python. There 
are weekly lectures in an online classroom and graded homework assignments. My 
10yo boy is taking the class. But he tells me JavaScript is his favorite 
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Re: Best Python book(s) for a pre-teen?

[aliencat777]

Hi,

"Start Here: Python 3x Programming Made Fun and Easier" is a very easy to 
understand beginners book. It also covers a basic introduction to software 
design, version systems, game logic and design, and packaging your first 
programs.
I wrote this book originally for my two sons when I was home schooling them. 
You can download the first chapters, "free version" to try before you buy it at 
www.toonzcat.com/book.html

Jody
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New Python book, "Learn Python Quickly"

[John Rowland]

Hi All,

You may be interested in my latest book "Learn Python Quickly". It's a Kindle 
book but is specifically designed to be used with any of the free-to-download 
Kindle Reading Apps. What's special about the book is its comprehensive 
glossary and the numerous in-text internal hyperlinks to topics in the 
glossary, allowing the reader to quickly jump to glossary topics to clarify the 
terms used in the text.

The book can be followed by those with zero prior knowledge of the language and 
very little general language experience, but leads the reader in easy stages to 
quite sophisticated coding skills including classes and Graphical User 
Interface (GUI) programming.

There are numerous graded exercises, all with sample answers at the end of the 
book. There is also a companion web site from which those programs can be 
freely copied and used immediately in Python's IDLE interface. (This overcomes 
the copying restriction imposed on Kindle books.)

The programs and lots of Information about the book (including sample chapters 
and an extract from the glossary) can be found on www.learnpythonquickly.com 
and the book itself is available from Amazon, from where you can download the 
reading apps and then download a further sample of the book onto those apps.

I do hope you find this of interest.

Kind regards,

John Rowland
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"Writing Idiomatic Python" book now available

[jknupp]

Just wanted to let everyone know I've just released a book: Writing Idiomatic 
Python (http://www.jeffknupp.com/writing-idiomatic-python-ebook/). It's 
presented as a series of examples of Pythonic code broken down by topic (e.g. 
lists, strings, classes, arranging your code, etc.). There are separate 
versions for Python 2.7.3 and Python 3.3. It's also available on Google Play 
Books and Amazon. 

Hopefully, some people in this group will find it useful. 
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Re: Python Book for a C Programmer?

[Jim Wilson]

On 05/23/2012 07:45 PM, hsa...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am trying to join an online class that uses python. I need to brush up on 
> the language quickly. Is there a good book or resource that covers it well 
> but does not have to explain what an if..then..else statement is?
> 
> Thanks.

My opinion: Martelli's "Python in a Nutshell" is the K&R of Python.

Alas, it does discuss if statements, but it doesn't slap you silly with them.
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Re: Python Book for a C Programmer?

[Javier Novoa C.]

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 08:34:24AM -0500, boB Stepp wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Javier Novoa C.
>  wrote:
> > On 2012-05-24, alister  wrote:
> >> On Wed, 23 May 2012 16:45:05 -0700, hsaziz wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am trying to join an online class that uses python. I need to brush up
> >>> on the language quickly. Is there a good book or resource that covers it
> >>> well but does not have to explain what an if..then..else statement is?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Dive into python seems to be quite popular & can be read online fro free
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Learning Python by Mark Lutz, from O'Reilly is a good one, I've been
> > reading it and it also enforces a comparison between C programming and
> > Python. However, it's focused on Python 2, but it also mentions Python
> > 3 things in the text...
> >
> 
> There is a new edition out, copyright 2010 if I recall correctly, that
> updates its coverage to Python 3.x, which is the book's primary focus,
> though it points out where 3.x syntax does not work in version 2.x.
> 
> Cheers!
> boB
> 

Oh thanks! that I didn't knew...

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Re: Python Book for a C Programmer?

[boB Stepp]

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Javier Novoa C.
 wrote:
> On 2012-05-24, alister  wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 May 2012 16:45:05 -0700, hsaziz wrote:
>>
>>> I am trying to join an online class that uses python. I need to brush up
>>> on the language quickly. Is there a good book or resource that covers it
>>> well but does not have to explain what an if..then..else statement is?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dive into python seems to be quite popular & can be read online fro free
>>
>>
>
> Learning Python by Mark Lutz, from O'Reilly is a good one, I've been
> reading it and it also enforces a comparison between C programming and
> Python. However, it's focused on Python 2, but it also mentions Python
> 3 things in the text...
>

There is a new edition out, copyright 2010 if I recall correctly, that
updates its coverage to Python 3.x, which is the book's primary focus,
though it points out where 3.x syntax does not work in version 2.x.

Cheers!
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Re: Python Book for a C Programmer?

[Javier Novoa C.]

On 2012-05-24, alister  wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2012 16:45:05 -0700, hsaziz wrote:
>
>> I am trying to join an online class that uses python. I need to brush up
>> on the language quickly. Is there a good book or resource that covers it
>> well but does not have to explain what an if..then..else statement is?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>
> Dive into python seems to be quite popular & can be read online fro free
>
>

Learning Python by Mark Lutz, from O'Reilly is a good one, I've been
reading it and it also enforces a comparison between C programming and
Python. However, it's focused on Python 2, but it also mentions Python
3 things in the text...


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Re: Python Book for a C Programmer?

[alister]

On Wed, 23 May 2012 16:45:05 -0700, hsaziz wrote:

> I am trying to join an online class that uses python. I need to brush up
> on the language quickly. Is there a good book or resource that covers it
> well but does not have to explain what an if..then..else statement is?
> 
> Thanks.

Dive into python seems to be quite popular & can be read online fro free



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Re: Python Book for a C Programmer?

[William R. Wing (Bill Wing)]

On May 23, 2012, at 7:45 PM, hsa...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am trying to join an online class that uses python. I need to brush up on 
> the language quickly. Is there a good book or resource that covers it well 
> but does not have to explain what an if..then..else statement is?
> 
> Thanks.
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My preference is "Python Essential Reference" by Beazley.  You can find it and 
several reviews here:


http://www.amazon.com/Python-Essential-Reference-David-Beazley/dp/0672329786/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1337859988&sr=1-1

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Re: Python Book for a C Programmer?

[Ulrich Eckhardt]

Am 24.05.2012 01:45, schrieb hsa...@gmail.com:
> I am trying to join an online class that uses python. I need to brush
> up on the language quickly. Is there a good book or resource that
> covers it well but does not have to explain what an if..then..else
> statement is?

First thing to check first is whether the online course uses Python 2 or
Python 3. For Python 2, try starting at docs.python.org. There you will
find library documentation, language specifications and also tutorials.

Uli

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Re: Python Book for a C Programmer?

[Michael Poeltl]

hi,

take
'Pro Python' (by Marty Alchin)

regards
Michael

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> the language quickly. Is there a good book or resource that covers it well 
> but does not have to explain what an if..then..else statement is?
> 
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Python Book for a C Programmer?

[hsaziz]

I am trying to join an online class that uses python. I need to brush up on the 
language quickly. Is there a good book or resource that covers it well but does 
not have to explain what an if..then..else statement is?

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Re: Good web-development Python book

[Colton Myers]

> Oooops! Sent my previous e-mail too soon! Didn't mean to.
> 
> Another try.
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to brush up on my Python and would like to learn how to
> make web-apps. I was hoping to get a good book on learning how to
> make web-applications using Python (as opposed to something like PHP)
> without any framework at the moment. Do you guys have any
> suggestions?
> 
> I looked around on Amazon, but didn't really find anything too
> promising. It was either very old or had no more than 3 stars in a
> rating. I'd appreciate your help on this.
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> 

I'd suggest Programming Python as well.  It has a whole section on "Internet 
Programming" which seems to be fairly agnostic as far as tools and frameworks 
go.

http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Python-Mark-Lutz/dp/0596158106/ref=tmm_pap_title_0

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Re: Good web-development Python book

[Ethan Furman]

Chris Rebert wrote:

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:30:24 -0700, Chris Rebert 
declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Yves S. Garret
** wrote:

   

make web-applications using Python (as opposed to something like PHP)
without any framework at the moment.  Do you guys have any
suggestions?


The next edition of The Definitive Guide to Django, by the project's

   Note: the OP stated "without a framework"... To me that implies raw
Python from scratch...


My bad, I completely overlooked that part of the post in my
earnestness to answer…


Completely understandable -- after all, who would not be earnest (and 
quick!) when replying to your surrogate god?


;)

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Re: Good web-development Python book

[Chris Rebert]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
 wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:30:24 -0700, Chris Rebert 
> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Yves S. Garret
>>  wrote:
>        
>> > make web-applications using Python (as opposed to something like PHP)
>> > without any framework at the moment.  Do you guys have any
>> > suggestions?
>> >
>>
>> The next edition of The Definitive Guide to Django, by the project's
>
>        Note: the OP stated "without a framework"... To me that implies raw
> Python from scratch...

My bad, I completely overlooked that part of the post in my
earnestness to answer…

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Re: Good web-development Python book

[Chris Rebert]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Yves S. Garret
 wrote:
> Oooops!  Sent my previous e-mail too soon!  Didn't mean to.
>
> Another try.
>
> Hello,
>
>   I'm trying to brush up on my Python and would like to learn how to
> make web-apps.  I was hoping to get a good book on learning how to
> make web-applications using Python (as opposed to something like PHP)
> without any framework at the moment.  Do you guys have any
> suggestions?
>
>   I looked around on Amazon, but didn't really find anything too
> promising.  It was either very old or had no more than 3 stars in a
> rating.  I'd appreciate your help on this.

The next edition of The Definitive Guide to Django, by the project's
co-BDFLs, is available online (for now):
http://www.djangobook.com/en/2.0/
It's not completely finished, but between it and the previous edition
(http://www.djangobook.com/en/1.0/ , also free), you should be fine.

Cheers,
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Good web-development Python book

[Yves S. Garret]

Oooops!  Sent my previous e-mail too soon!  Didn't mean to.

Another try.

Hello,

   I'm trying to brush up on my Python and would like to learn how to
make web-apps.  I was hoping to get a good book on learning how to
make web-applications using Python (as opposed to something like PHP)
without any framework at the moment.  Do you guys have any
suggestions?

   I looked around on Amazon, but didn't really find anything too
promising.  It was either very old or had no more than 3 stars in a
rating.  I'd appreciate your help on this.
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Good web-development Python book

[Yves S. Garret]

Hello,

   I'm trying to brush up on my Python and would like to
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Python book reviews

[Blockheads Oi Oi]

There are several at www.accu.org and select (strangely enough :) book 
reviews for anyone who may be interested.


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Re: Write Python Book - Packt Publishing.

[Sudheer Satyanarayana]

We are planning to publish a new book on improving the performance of 
Python applications and are currently looking out for potential 
authors to write it. You do not need to have any past writing 
experience. All that we need from our authors is a good knowledge of 
their subject, a passion to share it with others and ability to 
communicate clearly in English. We pay a royalty of 16% and an advance 
against it.
If you find it interesting to write this book, please send me some 
details about your experience with the subject and your past writing 
experience (if you have any).

Hi Kshipra Singh,

Thanks for your email.

Unfortunately, I'm not interesting in writing about the topic you mention.

But I'm interested in writing about
1. Web scraping using Python
2. XML development using Python
3. XML development using PHP
4. Web scraping using PHP
5. Building and consuming web services using Python
6. Building and consuming web services using PHP

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Re: Write Python Book - Packt Publishing.

[Sudheer Satyanarayana]

Hello,

Apologies for spamming the list.

I didn't realize the publisher sent the email to the list. I thought it 
was a private email and replied to it instantly.



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Write Python Book - Packt Publishing.

[Kshipra Singh]

Hi All, 

I represent Packt Publishing, the publishers of computer related books. 

We are planning to publish a new book on improving the performance of Python 
applications and are currently looking out for potential authors to write it. 
You do not need to have any past writing experience. All that we need from our 
authors is a good knowledge of their subject, a passion to share it with others 
and ability to communicate clearly in English. We pay a royalty of 16% and an 
advance against it. 

If you find it interesting to write this book, please send me some details 
about your experience with the subject and your past writing experience (if you 
have any). 

Regards
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Packt Publishing
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Re: Advanced Python Programming Oxford Lectures [was: Re: *Advanced* Python book?]

[Lacrima]

On Mar 26, 10:22 am, Michele Simionato 
wrote:
> On Mar 25, 2:24 pm, Michele Simionato 
> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 25, 1:28 pm, Ethan Furman  wrote:
>
> > > Michele,
>
> > > Was wondering if you'd had a chance to re-post your lectures -- just did
> > > a search for them and came up empty, and I would love to read them!
>
> > > Many thanks in advance!
>
> > Oops, I forgot! I will try to make them available soon.
>
> Here they are:http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/oxford-lectures.zip

Hello, Michele!
Thanks a lot for posting!!!
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Re: Advanced Python Programming Oxford Lectures [was: Re: *Advanced* Python book?]

[Michele Simionato]

On Mar 25, 2:24 pm, Michele Simionato 
wrote:
> On Mar 25, 1:28 pm, Ethan Furman  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Michele,
>
> > Was wondering if you'd had a chance to re-post your lectures -- just did
> > a search for them and came up empty, and I would love to read them!
>
> > Many thanks in advance!
>
> Oops, I forgot! I will try to make them available soon.


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Re: Advanced Python Programming Oxford Lectures [was: Re: *Advanced* Python book?]

[Michele Simionato]

On Mar 25, 1:28 pm, Ethan Furman  wrote:
>
> Michele,
>
> Was wondering if you'd had a chance to re-post your lectures -- just did
> a search for them and came up empty, and I would love to read them!
>
> Many thanks in advance!

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Advanced Python Programming Oxford Lectures [was: Re: *Advanced* Python book?]

[Ethan Furman]

Michele Simionato wrote:

On Jan 16, 9:27 pm, mk  wrote:


Hello everyone,

I looked for it I swear, but just can't find it.

Most Python books seem to focus on examples of how to call functions
from standard library. I don't need that, I have online Python
documentation for that.

I mean really advanced mental gymnastics, like gory details of how
Python objects operate, how to exploit its dynamic capabilities, dos and
donts with particular Python objects, advanced tricks, everything from
chained decorators to metaprogramming. Dive Into Python comes closest to
this ideal from what I have found, but still not far enough.

Anybody found such holy grail?


"Expert Python Programming" by Tarek Ziadé is quite good and I wrote
a review for it:

http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=240415

There is plenty of info about Advanced Python on the net, much more
than in book form. Come to think of it, there are my Oxford lectures
(the title was exactly "Advanced Python Programming") and I could
republish it on my blog, since I cannot find them on the net anymore.

   Michele Simionato


Michele,

Was wondering if you'd had a chance to re-post your lectures -- just did 
a search for them and came up empty, and I would love to read them!


Many thanks in advance!

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Python book similar to Enterprise Recipes with Ruby and Rails

[hrishy]

Hi

Is there a python book that resemble this 
http://www.amazon.com/Enterprise-Recipes-Ruby-Rails-Schmidt/dp/1934356239/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254914183&sr=8-1-spell


Also is there a active record version or port of Python ?

regards



  
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Re: Python book

[Banibrata Dutta]

Asking about 'Python' book recommendation is something that always leads to
a near religious recommendation set. I have my favourites too, but would
recommend original poster to check the no. of reviews on Amazon, B&N etc.,
after collecting recommendations from this list, before finalizing on one.
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Re: Python book

[Greg]

On Sep 30, 6:58 am, "lallous"  wrote:
> Hello
>
> Can anyone suggest a good book Python book for advancing from beginner
> level?
>
> (I started with Learning Python 3rd ed)
>
> Regards,
> Elias

Elias,
Try "Core Python Programming", 2nd Edition, by Wesley J. Chun.  I love
it!
Cheers,
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Re: Python book

[Ralf Schoenian]

lallous wrote:

Hello

Can anyone suggest a good book Python book for advancing from beginner 
level?


(I started with Learning Python 3rd ed)

Regards,
Elias


Hi Elias,

welcome to Python.
I have learned Python with the official tutorial and with the 
outstanding book: Beginning Python, From Novice to Professional by 
Magnus Lie Hetland. This book provides a gently introduction into Python 
and 10 chapters with "complete" projects.


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Re: Python book

[wesley chun]

>>On Sep 30, 4:58 am, "lallous"  wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a good book Python book for advancing from beginner level?
>> (I started with Learning Python 3rd ed)
>
> From: James Matthews 
> Date: Wed Sep 30 18:47:58 CEST 2009
>
> I like core python programming and dive into python.


hi Elias, and welcome to Python! thanks for the plug james! this
question is asked somewhat regularly. i addressed it a few years but
most of my reply still applies:
http://www.mail-archive.com/python-list@python.org/msg109993.html

one big difference is that Alan Gauld's tutorial is now located at
http://www.alan-g.me.uk ... another difference is that a good number
of ultra-beginner (new to programming not just Python) books have come
on the market as well. finally, i created a DVD + PowerPoint version
of Core Python called "Python Fundamentals" if you want to watch video
presentations on topics in addition to reading.

if you're also looking to take an intensive Python training course
that will take you beyond beginner status, i'm offering one in about
6-7 weeks (near San Francisco) where i'll *give* you a copy of Core
Python :-) ... and speaking of which, i'm actually starting to
research what it would take to bring the book to a 3rd edition and
soliciting assistance from the community. more info on both the course
and the next edition here:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/2009-September/005483.html

hope this helps!
-- wesley
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"Core Python Programming", Prentice Hall, (c)2007,2001
"Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c)2009
http://corepython.com

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Re: Python book

[geremy condra]

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 7:58 AM, lallous  wrote:

> Hello
>
> Can anyone suggest a good book Python book for advancing from beginner
> level?
>
> (I started with Learning Python 3rd ed)
>
> Regards,
> Elias


dive into python and, for me, foundations of python network programming-
narrowly targeted, but practical and full of good examples.

Geremy Condra

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Re: Python book

[James Matthews]

I like core python programming and dive into python.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Patrick Sabin
wrote:

> My favorite book is "Python Essential Reference" from David M. Beazley.
> It is not a beginner book. It is about the python language and not about  a
> framework or third-party library. It is much more complete than for instance
> "Dive into python", but maybe somewhat more difficult.
>
> - Patrick
>
>
> lallous wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a good book Python book for advancing from beginner
>> level?
>>
>> (I started with Learning Python 3rd ed)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Elias
>>
>
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Re: Python book

[Patrick Sabin]

My favorite book is "Python Essential Reference" from David M. Beazley.
It is not a beginner book. It is about the python language and not about 
 a framework or third-party library. It is much more complete than for 
instance "Dive into python", but maybe somewhat more difficult.


- Patrick

lallous wrote:

Hello

Can anyone suggest a good book Python book for advancing from beginner 
level?


(I started with Learning Python 3rd ed)

Regards,
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Re: Python book

[Krishnakant]

On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 17:38 +0530, Parikshat Dubey wrote:
> "Learning Python" and "Python in a nutshell" from O'Reilly
>  
> Regards
> Parikshat Dubey
> 

How to think like a computer scientist in python is a good book to go
from beginner to intermediate level.
another good book is dive into python.
> 
Mail me off the list if you want the soft book in compressed format.

Happy hacking.
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Re: Python book

[Parikshat Dubey]

"Learning Python" and "Python in a nutshell" from O'Reilly

Regards
Parikshat Dubey

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:28 PM, lallous  wrote:

> Hello
>
> Can anyone suggest a good book Python book for advancing from beginner
> level?
>
> (I started with Learning Python 3rd ed)
>
> Regards,
> Elias
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>



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Python book

[lallous]

Hello

Can anyone suggest a good book Python book for advancing from beginner 
level?


(I started with Learning Python 3rd ed)

Regards,
Elias 


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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[News123]

Evan Kroske wrote:
> Sam Tregar wrote:
>> Greetings. I'm working on learning Python and I'm looking for good
>> books to read. I'm almost done with Dive into Python and I liked it a
>> lot. I found Programming Python a little dry the last time I looked at
>> it, but I'm more motivated now so I might return to it. What's your
>> favorite? Why?
>>
>> -sam
>>
> Programming Python is good, but its examples follow a function-based
> . . .

I would *not* recommend 'Programming Python' (but perhaps this is just,
that I expected it to be the equivalent to 'Programming Perl' in the
Python world)

It is not good for getting started as it doesn't introduce the basics
well enough.

It is not good as a reference (it never intended to be one)

It touches many topics, but doesn't really go into too much depth.

It is really weak on Object Oriented programming

I personally prefered the Python Cookbook   

As I never read "Dive into Python" I don't know what books are good
complements.


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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[Esmail]

Gökhan SEVER wrote:

Hello,

I received an autographed copy of CPP, 2nd Edition after joining to 
Safari's "What is Python" webcast. They published the recorded session 
online as well. Check  
http://www.safaribooksonline.com/Corporate/DownloadAndResources/webcasts.php


As you will see from the lecture, he is a very motivated instructor. 
Mostly likely you will want to grab a copy of the book after watching 
the condensed Python introduction course.




Hi Gökhan

This looks interesting .. I have access to Safari books, but for some
reason I can't access this webcast via it .. so perhaps I have to sign
up for a trial membership for this? I'd prefer to do this w/o .. so I
guess I'll poke around a bit more. Thanks for the lead,

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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[Gökhan SEVER]

Hello,

I received an autographed copy of CPP, 2nd Edition after joining to Safari's
"What is Python" webcast. They published the recorded session online as
well. Check
http://www.safaribooksonline.com/Corporate/DownloadAndResources/webcasts.php

As you will see from the lecture, he is a very motivated instructor. Mostly
likely you will want to grab a copy of the book after watching the condensed
Python introduction course.

Gökhan


On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Esmail  wrote:

> Shawn Milochik wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:52 PM,   wrote:
>>
>>> Sam,
>>>
>>> In no specific order (I brought them all):
>>>
>>> Wesley Chun's "Core Python Programming"
>>>
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>>>
>>>
>> I second the Wesley Chun recommendation wholeheartedly.
>>
>
> This book keeps getting mentioned, I'll have to check it out.
> Perhaps some of you can share what about it you like in
> particular.
>
> Thanks,
> Esmail
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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[Esmail]

Shawn Milochik wrote:

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:52 PM,   wrote:

Sam,

In no specific order (I brought them all):

Wesley Chun's "Core Python Programming"

http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list



I second the Wesley Chun recommendation wholeheartedly. 


This book keeps getting mentioned, I'll have to check it out.
Perhaps some of you can share what about it you like in
particular.

Thanks,
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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[James Matthews]

For me it's any book on Django, Core Python 2nd Edition (which I will buy if
updated) and Python Power.



On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Lou Pecora wrote:

> In article
> ,
>  Mike Driscoll  wrote:
>
> > On May 11, 4:45 pm, Chris Rebert  wrote:
>
> > >
> > > I like "Python in a Nutshell" as a reference book, although it's now
> > > slightly outdated given Python 3.0's release (the book is circa 2.5).
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Chris
>
> "Python in a Nutshell" -- Absolutely!  Covers a lot in an easily
> accessible way.  The first book I reach for.  I hope Martelli updates it
> to 3.0.
>
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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[Lou Pecora]

In article 
,
 Mike Driscoll  wrote:

> On May 11, 4:45 pm, Chris Rebert  wrote:

> >
> > I like "Python in a Nutshell" as a reference book, although it's now
> > slightly outdated given Python 3.0's release (the book is circa 2.5).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Chris

"Python in a Nutshell" -- Absolutely!  Covers a lot in an easily 
accessible way.  The first book I reach for.  I hope Martelli updates it 
to 3.0.

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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[Mike Driscoll]

On May 11, 4:45 pm, Chris Rebert  wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Sam Tregar  wrote:
> > Greetings.  I'm working on learning Python and I'm looking for good books to
> > read.  I'm almost done with Dive into Python and I liked it a lot. I found
> > Programming Python a little dry the last time I looked at it, but I'm more
> > motivated now so I might return to it.  What's your favorite?  Why?
>
> I like "Python in a Nutshell" as a reference book, although it's now
> slightly outdated given Python 3.0's release (the book is circa 2.5).
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
> --http://blog.rebertia.com

I use Hetland's "Beginning Python" and Chun's "Core Python
Programming" the most, although I haven't used them in a while. I also
use Martelli's "Python Cookbook" from time-to-time. Hopefully he will
put out a 3.0 version too.

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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[Jeff McNeil]

On May 11, 5:45 pm, Chris Rebert  wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Sam Tregar  wrote:
> > Greetings.  I'm working on learning Python and I'm looking for good books to
> > read.  I'm almost done with Dive into Python and I liked it a lot. I found
> > Programming Python a little dry the last time I looked at it, but I'm more
> > motivated now so I might return to it.  What's your favorite?  Why?
>
> I like "Python in a Nutshell" as a reference book, although it's now
> slightly outdated given Python 3.0's release (the book is circa 2.5).
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
> --http://blog.rebertia.com

I second this. I've got a small stack of reference books on Python and
this is the most ripped up, coffee-stained, ragged piece of junk I
own. It's even more beat up than my K&R book which I've probably had
four times as long.  Everyone knows that's how you rate your techie
books... the more beat up they are, the higher the quality.

The book is laid out wonderfully.  You've got an tutorial that's
geared towards programmers, language reference, some advanced topics,
and then module reference.

Also, have a look at www.pylonsbook.com once you get the language
down. I've come to like this one as well because you'll also learn a
lot about Python development in general from it. A lot of the
knowledge transfers out of the web development arena into other areas
of programming.



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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[Sam Tregar]

Thanks for the suggestions everyone!  I've got a copy of Core Python 2nd
Edition on the way.

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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[Evan Kroske]

Sam Tregar wrote:
Greetings. I'm working on learning Python and I'm looking for good 
books to read. I'm almost done with Dive into Python and I liked it a 
lot. I found Programming Python a little dry the last time I looked at 
it, but I'm more motivated now so I might return to it. What's your 
favorite? Why?


-sam


Programming Python is good, but its examples follow a function-based
(not functional) style that I don't like. Most of the applications are a
mix of function libraries and scripts, and there's almost no
object-oriented best-practices content.

I don't have a recommendation; that's the only Python book I own.

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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[Jeremiah Dodds]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Sam Tregar  wrote:

> Greetings.  I'm working on learning Python and I'm looking for good books
> to read.  I'm almost done with Dive into Python and I liked it a lot. I
> found Programming Python a little dry the last time I looked at it, but I'm
> more motivated now so I might return to it.  What's your favorite?  Why?
>
> -sam
>
>
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>
I've gotten great use out of Programming Python (mainly because it has a lot
of larger full-fledged examples), Python in a Nutshell, and recently Expert
Python Programming. My copy of Python in a Nutshell is particularly
dog-eared now - it is a bit outdated (I've got notes all over the book of
things that have changed...) but it's still a great resource.
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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[Shawn Milochik]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:52 PM,   wrote:
> Sam,
>
> In no specific order (I brought them all):
>
> Wesley Chun's "Core Python Programming"
> David Mertz's "Text Processing in Python" (older, but excellent)
> Mark Lutz's "Learning Python"
>
> All highly recommended.
>
> Best of luck on your Python journey!
>
> Regards,
> Malcolm
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I second the Wesley Chun recommendation wholeheartedly. Also, "Text
Processing in Python" is available for free online.

http://gnosis.cx/TPiP/

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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[python]

Sam,

In no specific order (I brought them all):

Wesley Chun's "Core Python Programming"
David Mertz's "Text Processing in Python" (older, but excellent)
Mark Lutz's "Learning Python"

All highly recommended.

Best of luck on your Python journey!

Regards,
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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[Chris Rebert]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Sam Tregar  wrote:
> Greetings.  I'm working on learning Python and I'm looking for good books to
> read.  I'm almost done with Dive into Python and I liked it a lot. I found
> Programming Python a little dry the last time I looked at it, but I'm more
> motivated now so I might return to it.  What's your favorite?  Why?

I like "Python in a Nutshell" as a reference book, although it's now
slightly outdated given Python 3.0's release (the book is circa 2.5).

Cheers,
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Re: Your Favorite Python Book

[Shawn Milochik]

It depends on what you want to do. If you still want to beef up on
general knowledge, maybe skim through "The Python Cookbook" or
something reference-like.

If you feel ready to start doing something with Python, look into one
of the recent titles that applies Python for a specific purpose.
Examples:

"Gray Hat Python" (debugging, reverse engineering)
"Natural Language Processing with Python" (pre-order at this time)
Any up-to-date (version 1.0 and up) Django book (if you're into Web development)
"Expert Python Programming" (best practices)
"Beginning Python Visualization" (presenting data visually)
"Programming Collective Intelligence" (extracting valuable information
from public data sources, and more)

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Your Favorite Python Book

[Sam Tregar]

Greetings.  I'm working on learning Python and I'm looking for good books to
read.  I'm almost done with Dive into Python and I liked it a lot. I found
Programming Python a little dry the last time I looked at it, but I'm more
motivated now so I might return to it.  What's your favorite?  Why?

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Re: python book for a C programmer

[Jorgen Grahn]

On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:10:37 -0700 (PDT), Saurabh  wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am an experienced C programmer, I have done some perl code as well.
> But while thinking about large programs,I find perl syntax a
> hinderance.
> I read Eric Raymonds article reagrding python,(http://
> www.linuxjournal.com/article/3882).

I have a similar background, and I was pleased with this one:

%A Alex Martelli
%T Python in a nutshell
%I O'Reilly
%D 2003

Plus the excellent online docs.

/Jorgen

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Re: python book for a C programmer

[Jeremiah Dodds]

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Saurabh  wrote:

> For introduction I am thinking about 'Learning Python' and for
> reference I am thinking about 'Python Bible'.
>
> I need your suggestions on this.
>
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Here's another vote for "Python in a Nutshell" after the tutorial, it's an
excellent read, and perfect for someone who has a bit of experience with
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Re: python book for a C programmer

[Sridhar Ratnakumar]

On 3/13/2009 10:29 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:

Saurabh  writes:

>  Hi all,
>  I am an experienced C programmer, I have done some perl code as well.
>  But while thinking about large programs,I find perl syntax a
>  hinderance.


I would say read the online tutorial, then "Python in a Nutshell".


That exactly was what I did! I second that too. I knew only C/C++/Java 
fairly well before jumping into Python.

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Re: python book for a C programmer

[Saurabh]

On Mar 14, 12:04 pm, Chris Rebert  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Paul Rubin  wrote:
> > Saurabh  writes:
> >> Hi all,
> >> I am an experienced C programmer, I have done some perl code as well.
> >> But while thinking about large programs,I find perl syntax a
> >> hinderance.
>
> > I would say read the online tutorial, then "Python in a Nutshell".
>
> Wholeheartedly seconded!
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
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Re: python book for a C programmer

[Chris Rebert]

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Paul Rubin  wrote:
> Saurabh  writes:
>> Hi all,
>> I am an experienced C programmer, I have done some perl code as well.
>> But while thinking about large programs,I find perl syntax a
>> hinderance.
>
> I would say read the online tutorial, then "Python in a Nutshell".

Wholeheartedly seconded!

Cheers,
Chris

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Re: python book for a C programmer

[Paul Rubin]

Saurabh  writes:
> Hi all,
> I am an experienced C programmer, I have done some perl code as well.
> But while thinking about large programs,I find perl syntax a
> hinderance.

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python book for a C programmer

[Saurabh]

Hi all,
I am an experienced C programmer, I have done some perl code as well.
But while thinking about large programs,I find perl syntax a
hinderance.
I read Eric Raymonds article reagrding python,(http://
www.linuxjournal.com/article/3882).

And it kind of convinced me to learn Python,I have searched
comp.lang.python for books,
but there is so much information available that I feel lost,Some site
suggests a perticular book
is verybad, whilesome other gives it a 5star rating.


>From all the posts/article I have understood that I need atleast 2
python books
one from each of the 2 following categories,

1.introduction/tutorial
2.reference

For introduction I am thinking about 'Learning Python' and for
reference I am thinking about 'Python Bible'.

I need your suggestions on this.

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Re: *Advanced* Python book?

[Banibrata Dutta]

2009/1/17 Michele Simionato :
> "Expert Python Programming" by Tarek Ziadé is quite good and I wrote
> a review for it:
>
> http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=240415

Excellent review.

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Re: *Advanced* Python book?

[Jeff McNeil]

On Jan 18, 6:35 pm, Simon Brunning  wrote:
> 2009/1/17 Michele Simionato :
>
> > "Expert Python Programming" by Tarek Ziadé is quite good and I wrote
> > a review for it:
>
> >http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=240415
>
> +1 for this. I'm 3/4 of the way through it, it's pretty good. Covers
> many on the important areas that the more introductory books rightly
> leave out,
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Simon B.


I keep a copy of "Python In A Nutshell" on my desk at all times.  Most
of my books are in great shape, but this one is ripped all to hell.
The sign of a good book.  It covers just about everything, though not
all in extreme depth.  It's a great book!

I've been writing Python for about 4 years now and over the week or so
I've caught the "I should know more about the internals" bug.   As a
result, I've been trying to trace the interpreter from the start of
the main function through user code execution.  Getting to fully
understand the C API and the actual CPython implementation is
something I wish I would have done years ago.  I'd suggest you do that
if you get the chance.

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Re: *Advanced* Python book?

[Simon Brunning]

2009/1/17 Michele Simionato :
> "Expert Python Programming" by Tarek Ziadé is quite good and I wrote
> a review for it:
>
> http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=240415

+1 for this. I'm 3/4 of the way through it, it's pretty good. Covers
many on the important areas that the more introductory books rightly
leave out,

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Re: *Advanced* Python book?

[Luis M . González]

On Jan 16, 5:27 pm, mk  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I looked for it I swear, but just can't find it.
>
> Most Python books seem to focus on examples of how to call functions
> from standard library. I don't need that, I have online Python
> documentation for that.
>
> I mean really advanced mental gymnastics, like gory details of how
> Python objects operate, how to exploit its dynamic capabilities, dos and
> donts with particular Python objects, advanced tricks, everything from
> chained decorators to metaprogramming. Dive Into Python comes closest to
> this ideal from what I have found, but still not far enough.
>
> Anybody found such holy grail?
>
> Regards,
> mk

I believe that any book will give you enough information about
python's objects behaviour.
But if you want to understand the more esoteric aspects of python (I'm
in the same situation),
perhaps you should investigate decorators and metaclasses.
A good starting point is the 3 article series in decorators by Bruce
Eckel in Artima ( http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=240808
).

I second the suggestion of reading samples and cookbooks, for example
in ActiveState's site.
I found particularly interesting one that shows how to implement an
ORM under 100 lines ( http://code.activestate.com/recipes/496905/ ).
This script goes deep into black magic and it's clear enough to grasp.

Luis
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Re: *Advanced* Python book?

[Michele Simionato]

On Jan 16, 9:27 pm, mk  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I looked for it I swear, but just can't find it.
>
> Most Python books seem to focus on examples of how to call functions
> from standard library. I don't need that, I have online Python
> documentation for that.
>
> I mean really advanced mental gymnastics, like gory details of how
> Python objects operate, how to exploit its dynamic capabilities, dos and
> donts with particular Python objects, advanced tricks, everything from
> chained decorators to metaprogramming. Dive Into Python comes closest to
> this ideal from what I have found, but still not far enough.
>
> Anybody found such holy grail?
>
> Regards,
> mk

"Expert Python Programming" by Tarek Ziadé is quite good and I wrote
a review for it:

http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=240415

There is plenty of info about Advanced Python on the net, much more
than in book form. Come to think of it, there are my Oxford lectures
(the title was exactly "Advanced Python Programming") and I could
republish it on my blog, since I cannot find them on the net anymore.

   Michele Simionato
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Re: *Advanced* Python book?

[Scott David Daniels]

Paul Rubin wrote:

mk  writes:

 Anybody found such holy grail?


The favorite ones around here are "Python Cookbook" and "Python in a
Nutshell", both by Alex Martelli, who used to be a newsgroup regular
and still stops by from time to time.


To the OP:

Do yourself a favor and go to a bookstore and read a chapter or
two of the cookbook.  While you can see the recipes on activestate,
there is a _lot_ of value added in (1) the selection, (2) the
editing for a more consistent style, and (3) the chapter intros
by people chosen for their knowledge on the chapter's subject.

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Re: *Advanced* Python book?

[andrew cooke]

not direct answers, but

reading through the recipes can be interesting -
http://code.activestate.com/recipes/langs/python/

also, reading any good computing book and then wondering how you can
do that in python can help shed a new light on things.

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Re: *Advanced* Python book?

[Paul Rubin]

mk  writes:
> I mean really advanced mental gymnastics, like gory details of how
> Python objects operate, how to exploit its dynamic capabilities, dos
> and donts with particular Python objects, advanced tricks, everything
> from chained decorators to metaprogramming. Dive Into Python comes
> closest to this ideal from what I have found, but still not far enough.
> 
> Anybody found such holy grail?

The favorite ones around here are "Python Cookbook" and "Python in a
Nutshell", both by Alex Martelli, who used to be a newsgroup regular
and still stops by from time to time.
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Re: *Advanced* Python book?

[Jean-Claude Arbaut]

mk wrote:


Hello everyone,

I looked for it I swear, but just can't find it.


Most Python books seem to focus on examples of how to call functions 
from standard library. I don't need that, I have online Python 
documentation for that.


IMHO, you don't need an advanced *python* book. If you know
the documentation and basic tutorials, then you know
enough python to write almost anything you may need.

The exception may be, again IMO:
- tkinter, that will need some more work,
- and C extensions, that are made easier by SWIG.
But I think these topics are adressed by books
you already found too simple.

What you need next is:
- read code that do something interesting, for example
  here http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/PADS/ or in python
  sources (or find projects on sourceforge, etc.)
- find a book on advanced *what you want to do*

There are good books on programming, like TAOCP or CLRS,
but it's not necessarily what you are looking for.

You may also find material in university CS sites: there
is sometimes cool stuff. Start with MIT OCW if you want
to try this.

The real question is: what do you want to do with your python ?

And don't forget to check with google if someone has already
had the same idea in the same language, such things happen ;-)
The "filetype:pdf" trick may help !

I mean really advanced mental gymnastics, like gory details of how 
Python objects operate, how to exploit its dynamic capabilities, dos and 
donts with particular Python objects, advanced tricks, everything from 
chained decorators to metaprogramming.



Dive Into Python comes closest to 
this ideal from what I have found, but still not far enough.


I was about to tell you about it :-)


Anybody found such holy grail?


'never found a better grail than source code :-)
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*Advanced* Python book?

[mk]

Hello everyone,

I looked for it I swear, but just can't find it.

Most Python books seem to focus on examples of how to call functions 
from standard library. I don't need that, I have online Python 
documentation for that.


I mean really advanced mental gymnastics, like gory details of how 
Python objects operate, how to exploit its dynamic capabilities, dos and 
donts with particular Python objects, advanced tricks, everything from 
chained decorators to metaprogramming. Dive Into Python comes closest to 
this ideal from what I have found, but still not far enough.


Anybody found such holy grail?

Regards,
mk

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Re: python book for non technical absolute beginner

[Tom Morris]

On 2008-12-06, News123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One of my 'non technical' friends complained about knowing nothing at
> all about programming (though using computers regularly for mails / web
> browsing / googling and downloading / cropping photos )
>
> He wants to play a little with programming to stimulate parts of his
> otehrwise idle brain cells. ;-) Normally it's more the social science /
> linguistic parts being exercised,
>
> I thought python might be a nice language for this
>
> No my question does anybody know a nice beginners book (or a learning CD
> or on line tutorial)? Ideally it shouldn't be too serious and have a lot
> of small nice mini-examples
>

It's not Python, but I am a big fan of Chris Pine's 'Learn to Program'
, which is a Ruby tutorial for absolute
beginners. It'd certainly be nice if the author were to allow someone to
port the tutorial for Python and other languages. It spends a lot of
time taking the reader from numbers and letters through conditionals,
loops, arrays, iteration and eventually to classes and objects. It
really is, in my opinion, one of the best programming tutorials for
beginners.

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Re: python book for non technical absolute beginner

[David]

I like this one:
http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/

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Re: python book for non technical absolute beginner

[André]

On Dec 6, 9:21 am, News123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One of my 'non technical' friends complained about knowing nothing at
> all about programming (though using computers regularly for mails / web
> browsing / googling and downloading / cropping photos )
>
> He wants to play a little with programming to stimulate parts of his
> otehrwise idle brain cells. ;-) Normally it's more the social science /
> linguistic parts being exercised,
>
> I thought python might be a nice language for this
>
> No my question does anybody know a nice beginners book (or a learning CD
> or on line tutorial)? Ideally it shouldn't be too serious and have a lot
> of small nice mini-examples
>
> thanks in advance for any suggestions hints
>
> bye
>
> N
For something completely different, try http://rur-ple.sourceforge.net/
It's Karel the robot, using only Python, and comes with a whole bunch
of lessons and exercises.

André
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