Re: vote for Python - PLEASE
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
It's an Internet poll. By definition, the results are meaningless.
Regrettably, there are many people that don't share your definition.
Also, why would there be telephone votings in TV if they were
meaningless to the default watcher? :)
Regards,
Björn
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Re: vote for Python - PLEASE
On 10/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 18, 6:12 pm, Monty Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everybody, MySQL has put up a poll onhttp://dev.mysql.comasking what your primary programming language is. But it doesn't ask that, it asks what your primary programming language is FOR DEVELOPING MYSQL APPLICATIONS. In my case, there is no such language (even though I primarily use Python) BECAUSE I DON'T USE MYSQL. Even if you don't use MySQL - please go stick in a vote for Python. I'm constantly telling folks that Python needs more love, but PHP and Java are kicking our butts... (I know the world would be a better place if the poll were honest, There is dishonestly and there's outright lying but I'd rather that people got the message that they should do more python development work!) Maybe the Python community doesn't need your help. I do use mysql with python bindings, but it was a pleasant surprise to see python was ahead of other languages. Though i too doubt the meaning and genuineness of such internet polls. But may be there are similar people in every community who would try to spread the word and get more votes for 'their' language, hence actually helping to normalize the results ! However even if the poll results do not accurately reflect the intended purpose, they may be, just may be, give an idea of size of community and just how much that 'one' lie they will live with to see 'their' language ahead ;-) ! cheers, -- -- Amit Khemka -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: vote for Python - PLEASE
Monty Taylor wrote: Hey everybody, MySQL has put up a poll on http://dev.mysql.com asking what your primary programming language is. Even if you don't use MySQL - please go stick in a vote for Python. I'm constantly telling folks that Python needs more love, but PHP and Java are kicking our butts... (I know the world would be a better place if the poll were honest, but I'd rather that people got the message that they should do more python development work!) Thanks! Monty well I did vote as we use python+mysql; I dispute the value of kicking our butts though. When I voted python was running at 39.8% about equal to java+php (41.4%). -- Robin Becker -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: vote for Python - PLEASE
Bjoern Schliessmann schrieb: Steven D'Aprano wrote: It's an Internet poll. By definition, the results are meaningless. Regrettably, there are many people that don't share your definition. Also, why would there be telephone votings in TV if they were meaningless to the default watcher? :) Because it costs 50cent to call, which makes a useless and most of the time heavily biased poll a nice source of income. Or why do you think even the larger TV-stations show call-in-TV-shows at night? Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: vote for Python - PLEASE
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Bjoern Schliessmann schrieb: Also, why would there be telephone votings in TV if they were meaningless to the default watcher? :) Because it costs 50cent to call, which makes a useless and most of the time heavily biased poll a nice source of income. Or why do you think even the larger TV-stations show call-in-TV-shows at night? You're partially right. But those are mostly no polls but lotteries (often with tricky or ridiculously simple questions). Simple polls are quite rare, comparatively. Regards, Björn -- BOFH excuse #301: appears to be a Slow/Narrow SCSI-0 Interface problem -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: vote for Python - PLEASE
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:45:42 +, Grant Edwards wrote: Even though Python is way ahead, you've probably ruined it for us. I suspect the folks at MySQL will ignore or discount the results when they find out you've solicited fradulent votes from the Python community. It's an Internet poll. By definition, the results are meaningless. -- Steven. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: vote for Python - PLEASE
On 2007-10-18, Monty Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MySQL has put up a poll on http://dev.mysql.com asking what your primary programming language is. Even if you don't use MySQL - please go stick in a vote for Python. I'm constantly telling folks that Python needs more love, but PHP and Java are kicking our butts... (I know the world would be a better place if the poll were honest, but I'd rather that people got the message that they should do more python development work!) What makes you think that faking a poll will send that message? Even though Python is way ahead, you've probably ruined it for us. I suspect the folks at MySQL will ignore or discount the results when they find out you've solicited fradulent votes from the Python community. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I just got my PRINCE at bumper sticker ... But now visi.comI can't remember WHO he is ... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: vote for Python - PLEASE
Monty Taylor wrote: MySQL has put up a poll on http://dev.mysql.com asking what your primary programming language is. Even if you don't use MySQL - please go stick in a vote for Python. I'm constantly telling folks that Python needs more love, but PHP and Java are kicking our butts... If the MySQL developers base their support decision on a non-representative web vote, I'll really use a different project if I needed one ... Regards, Björn -- BOFH excuse #297: Too many interrupts -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: vote for Python - PLEASE
On Thursday 18 October 2007 22:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but I'd rather that people got the message that they should do more python development work!) Maybe the Python community doesn't need your help. He did try to help, in a morally questionable way, but still in good faith (I believe). I wouldn't treat him so harshly, even though I didn't like being asked to lie. Anyway, I went to vote. I do use python with mysql. Python seems to be winning by a 16% margin, more or less. Impressive... but now I have to wonder how many people lied. -- Luis Zarrabeitia (aka Kyrie) Fac. de Matemática y Computación, UH. http://profesores.matcom.uh.cu/~kyrie -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: vote for Python - PLEASE
Monty Taylor wrote: MySQL has put up a poll on http://dev.mysql.com asking what your primary programming language is. Even if you don't use MySQL - please go stick in a vote for Python. I agree with others that voting here if you don't use MySQL is *not* a good idea. That said, I still appreciate the notice - I have used MySQL occasionally, and I've *always* used the Python bindings. But I don't pay any attention to the MySQL homepage, so I never would have known about the poll. Next time, simply posting the URL and letting us know that it's targeted at people using MySQL should be sufficient. STeVe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
vote for Python - PLEASE
Hey everybody, MySQL has put up a poll on http://dev.mysql.com asking what your primary programming language is. Even if you don't use MySQL - please go stick in a vote for Python. I'm constantly telling folks that Python needs more love, but PHP and Java are kicking our butts... (I know the world would be a better place if the poll were honest, but I'd rather that people got the message that they should do more python development work!) Thanks! Monty -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: vote for Python - PLEASE
On Oct 18, 6:12 pm, Monty Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everybody, MySQL has put up a poll onhttp://dev.mysql.comasking what your primary programming language is. But it doesn't ask that, it asks what your primary programming language is FOR DEVELOPING MYSQL APPLICATIONS. In my case, there is no such language (even though I primarily use Python) BECAUSE I DON'T USE MYSQL. Even if you don't use MySQL - please go stick in a vote for Python. I'm constantly telling folks that Python needs more love, but PHP and Java are kicking our butts... (I know the world would be a better place if the poll were honest, There is dishonestly and there's outright lying but I'd rather that people got the message that they should do more python development work!) Maybe the Python community doesn't need your help. Thanks! Monty -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
