Re: what windows compiler for python 3.5?

2015-07-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com wrote:
 On 24/07/2015 11:20, Robin Becker wrote:

 I read this

 https://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/3.5.html which incidentally marks the
 release as 3.6.0a0 :)

 but failed to find any details regarding which windows compiler is
 required.


 more searching I find this on the 3.5 b1 download page

 Windows users: The Windows binaries were built with Microsoft Visual Studio
 2015, which is not yet officially released. (It's currently offered in
 Preview mode, which is akin to a beta.) It is our intention to ship
 Python 3.5 using VS2015, although right now VS2015's final release date is
 unclear.

That would be correct, if you're seeking to match the python.org
builds (eg if you're building an extension module). I've no idea what
the compiler requirements are if you simply want to build CPython from
source.

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Re: what windows compiler for python 3.5?

2015-07-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com wrote:
 yes I build extensions for reportlab. Unfortunately, despite our MSDN
 subscription to the Visual Studio stuff we have no access to the Visual
 Studio Version 2015. Last one in my downloads is currently 2013. Pity.

Ah. You may well be somewhat out of luck for the moment, then; I've no
idea what status is during the betas. Once Python 3.5 is released, VS
2015 should also be available, or else the official compiler for
CPython 3.5 will probably be changed.

In the meantime, you could possibly ask on python-dev; Steve Dower of
Microsoft hangs out there, and he's the one who's driving the compiler
choice - he may be able to advise as to where to get the prerelease
compiler.

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what windows compiler for python 3.5?

2015-07-24 Thread Robin Becker

I read this

https://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/3.5.html which incidentally marks the 
release as 3.6.0a0 :)


but failed to find any details regarding which windows compiler is required.
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Re: what windows compiler for python 3.5?

2015-07-24 Thread Robin Becker

On 24/07/2015 11:20, Robin Becker wrote:

I read this

https://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/3.5.html which incidentally marks the
release as 3.6.0a0 :)

but failed to find any details regarding which windows compiler is required.


more searching I find this on the 3.5 b1 download page

Windows users: The Windows binaries were built with Microsoft Visual Studio 
2015, which is not yet officially released. (It's currently offered in Preview 
mode, which is akin to a beta.) It is our intention to ship Python 3.5 using 
VS2015, although right now VS2015's final release date is unclear.




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Re: what windows compiler for python 3.5?

2015-07-24 Thread Robin Becker

On 24/07/2015 11:38, Chris Angelico wrote:

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com wrote:

...

more searching I find this on the 3.5 b1 download page

Windows users: The Windows binaries were built with Microsoft Visual Studio
2015, which is not yet officially released. (It's currently offered in
Preview mode, which is akin to a beta.) It is our intention to ship
Python 3.5 using VS2015, although right now VS2015's final release date is
unclear.


That would be correct, if you're seeking to match the python.org
builds (eg if you're building an extension module). I've no idea what
the compiler requirements are if you simply want to build CPython from
source.


...

yes I build extensions for reportlab. Unfortunately, despite our MSDN 
subscription to the Visual Studio stuff we have no access to the Visual Studio 
Version 2015. Last one in my downloads is currently 2013. Pity.

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Re: what windows compiler for python 3.5?

2015-07-24 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 24/07/2015 11:53, Robin Becker wrote:

On 24/07/2015 11:38, Chris Angelico wrote:

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com
wrote:

...

more searching I find this on the 3.5 b1 download page

Windows users: The Windows binaries were built with Microsoft Visual
Studio
2015, which is not yet officially released. (It's currently offered in
Preview mode, which is akin to a beta.) It is our intention to ship
Python 3.5 using VS2015, although right now VS2015's final release
date is
unclear.


That would be correct, if you're seeking to match the python.org
builds (eg if you're building an extension module). I've no idea what
the compiler requirements are if you simply want to build CPython from
source.


...

yes I build extensions for reportlab. Unfortunately, despite our MSDN
subscription to the Visual Studio stuff we have no access to the Visual
Studio Version 2015. Last one in my downloads is currently 2013. Pity.


I'm successfully building with Visual Studio Version 2015 Community 
Edition RC.  It's a good job that modern drives have so much space as it 
takes up *EIGHT GIG* of space, so the download and install takes quite a 
time.  I'm aware that Steve Dower is trying to get a much smaller 
install made available for those who just want to build from the command 
line.


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Re: what windows compiler for python 3.5?

2015-07-24 Thread ElChino

Brian Gladman wrote:

 Visual Studio 2015 Community was relased earlier this week so there is

no need to work with the prerelease version.


Hope MS have fixed all the internal compiler errors.
E.g. trying to compile GeoIpApi-C [1], consistently reports:
  libGeoIP/regionName.c(7596): fatal error C1026: parser stack overflow,
  program too complex

here. The regionName.c look pretty lame, but not that complex IMHO.

[1] https://github.com/maxmind/geoip-api-c/blob/master/libGeoIP/regionName.c


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Re: what windows compiler for python 3.5?

2015-07-24 Thread mm0fmf via Python-list

On 24/07/2015 11:53, Robin Becker wrote:

yes I build extensions for reportlab. Unfortunately, despite our MSDN
subscription to the Visual Studio stuff we have no access to the Visual
Studio Version 2015. Last one in my downloads is currently 2013. Pity.


I received an email today re my work MSDN subscription telling me VS2015 
was now available to download. Sorry I didn't study it to see if all the 
versions were available now or just some. I've only just started using 
VS2013 at work so wasn't worried about VS2015!


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Re: what windows compiler for python 3.5?

2015-07-24 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 24/07/2015 13:24, Brian Gladman wrote:

On 24/07/2015 12:04, Chris Angelico wrote:

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com wrote:

yes I build extensions for reportlab. Unfortunately, despite our MSDN
subscription to the Visual Studio stuff we have no access to the Visual
Studio Version 2015. Last one in my downloads is currently 2013. Pity.


Ah. You may well be somewhat out of luck for the moment, then; I've no
idea what status is during the betas. Once Python 3.5 is released, VS
2015 should also be available, or else the official compiler for
CPython 3.5 will probably be changed.

In the meantime, you could possibly ask on python-dev; Steve Dower of
Microsoft hangs out there, and he's the one who's driving the compiler
choice - he may be able to advise as to where to get the prerelease
compiler.


Visual Studio 2015 Community was relased earlier this week so there is
no need to work with the prerelease version.



No idea how I managed to miss that.  Still upgrade achieved and it only 
took around four hours 30 minutes.  We've terms like software, 
middleware, firmware, vapourware and so on and so forth, but I'm not 
certain what VS2015 comes under, explodedware possibly?


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Re: what windows compiler for python 3.5?

2015-07-24 Thread Brian Gladman
On 24/07/2015 12:04, Chris Angelico wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com wrote:
 yes I build extensions for reportlab. Unfortunately, despite our MSDN
 subscription to the Visual Studio stuff we have no access to the Visual
 Studio Version 2015. Last one in my downloads is currently 2013. Pity.
 
 Ah. You may well be somewhat out of luck for the moment, then; I've no
 idea what status is during the betas. Once Python 3.5 is released, VS
 2015 should also be available, or else the official compiler for
 CPython 3.5 will probably be changed.
 
 In the meantime, you could possibly ask on python-dev; Steve Dower of
 Microsoft hangs out there, and he's the one who's driving the compiler
 choice - he may be able to advise as to where to get the prerelease
 compiler.

Visual Studio 2015 Community was relased earlier this week so there is
no need to work with the prerelease version.

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