Re: [Python-modules-team] python-xlib_0.26-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2020-03-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, March 21, 2020 3:14:20 PM EDT Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Saturday, March 21, 2020 3:02:27 PM EDT Andrej Shadura wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 19:39, Sandro Tosi  wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 18:01, Sandro Tosi  wrote:
> > > > > Andrej,
> > > > > why the pristine-tar information are now in a `pristine-lfs` branch?
> > > > > where did the other pristine-tar deltas go?
> > > > 
> > > > Because it’s simpler and better as it guarantees the tarballs are bit
> > > > to bit identical, which pristine-tar so often fails to do. There was
> > > > no pristine-tar or pristine-lfs information for earlier uploads.
> > > 
> > > but our team policy requires to use pristine-tar:
> > > https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-modules/blob/master/po
> > > li
> > > cy.rst
> > > 
> > > please adjust, so that we can all use the same tools and procedures.
> > 
> > I suggest we rather change the policy since at the moment this point
> > lacks any rationale and isn’t providing any benefit since the
> > pristine-tar data are only useful for minor updates of the package
> > (e.g. when the upstream source hasn’t changed) and pristine-tar is
> > known to be a huge hack and fail to provide correct tarballs,
> > especially when xz is used.
> 
> When you joined the team, you agreed to follow the team policies.  Please do
> so.
> 
> The way to get the policy changed is not to ignore it and then get
> aggressive when called on it.
> 
> Personally, I use the pristine-tar branch routinely (I used it multiple
> times just yesterday) and I've never had a problem with it.  Personally,
> while I know it's a hack, it's a working hack.
> 
> Please do as you've been asked and then we can have a nice conversation
> about if we should change the way the team works.
> 
> Scott K

Also, I was about to fix the autopkgtest failure in python-h2, but I see that 
despite having DPMT as maintainer, you didn't set the git repo up as part of 
DPMT: https://salsa.debian.org/debian/python-h2  - I decided to leave it alone 
because I really can't tell if you want to be part of the team or not.

Scott K

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Re: [Python-modules-team] python-xlib_0.26-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2020-03-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, March 21, 2020 3:02:27 PM EDT Andrej Shadura wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 19:39, Sandro Tosi  wrote:
> > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 18:01, Sandro Tosi  wrote:
> > > > Andrej,
> > > > why the pristine-tar information are now in a `pristine-lfs` branch?
> > > > where did the other pristine-tar deltas go?
> > > 
> > > Because it’s simpler and better as it guarantees the tarballs are bit
> > > to bit identical, which pristine-tar so often fails to do. There was
> > > no pristine-tar or pristine-lfs information for earlier uploads.
> > 
> > but our team policy requires to use pristine-tar:
> > https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-modules/blob/master/poli
> > cy.rst
> > 
> > please adjust, so that we can all use the same tools and procedures.
> 
> I suggest we rather change the policy since at the moment this point
> lacks any rationale and isn’t providing any benefit since the
> pristine-tar data are only useful for minor updates of the package
> (e.g. when the upstream source hasn’t changed) and pristine-tar is
> known to be a huge hack and fail to provide correct tarballs,
> especially when xz is used.

When you joined the team, you agreed to follow the team policies.  Please do 
so.

The way to get the policy changed is not to ignore it and then get aggressive 
when called on it.

Personally, I use the pristine-tar branch routinely (I used it multiple times 
just yesterday) and I've never had a problem with it.  Personally, while I 
know it's a hack, it's a working hack.

Please do as you've been asked and then we can have a nice conversation about 
if we should change the way the team works.

Scott K


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Re: [Python-modules-team] python-xlib_0.26-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2020-03-21 Thread Sandro Tosi
> > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 18:01, Sandro Tosi  wrote:
> > > > Andrej,
> > > > why the pristine-tar information are now in a `pristine-lfs` branch?
> > > > where did the other pristine-tar deltas go?
> > >
> > > Because it’s simpler and better as it guarantees the tarballs are bit
> > > to bit identical, which pristine-tar so often fails to do. There was
> > > no pristine-tar or pristine-lfs information for earlier uploads.
>
> > but our team policy requires to use pristine-tar:
> > https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-modules/blob/master/policy.rst
> >
> > please adjust, so that we can all use the same tools and procedures.
>
> I suggest we rather change the policy since at the moment this point
> lacks any rationale and isn’t providing any benefit since the
> pristine-tar data are only useful for minor updates of the package
> (e.g. when the upstream source hasn’t changed) and pristine-tar is
> known to be a huge hack and fail to provide correct tarballs,
> especially when xz is used.

if you want to start the conversation of migrating away from
pristine-tar, submit a proposal, get consensus and drive the migration
to a different solution, please do so at any time.

but until the time when the team decides that pristine-tar (which has
been working fine for our 1400+ packages so far) is to be replaced by
a different product, i dont think it's appropriate to unilaterally
decide to use a different solution. Team members are required, when
joining, to accept the policy. and team membership is about
consistency and easy of work.

i was not able to update python-xlib because you decided to use a
different process than the rest of us. this is not team work.

Regards,
-- 
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Re: [Python-modules-team] python-xlib_0.26-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2020-03-21 Thread Andrej Shadura
Hi,

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 19:39, Sandro Tosi  wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 18:01, Sandro Tosi  wrote:
> > > Andrej,
> > > why the pristine-tar information are now in a `pristine-lfs` branch?
> > > where did the other pristine-tar deltas go?
> >
> > Because it’s simpler and better as it guarantees the tarballs are bit
> > to bit identical, which pristine-tar so often fails to do. There was
> > no pristine-tar or pristine-lfs information for earlier uploads.

> but our team policy requires to use pristine-tar:
> https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-modules/blob/master/policy.rst
>
> please adjust, so that we can all use the same tools and procedures.

I suggest we rather change the policy since at the moment this point
lacks any rationale and isn’t providing any benefit since the
pristine-tar data are only useful for minor updates of the package
(e.g. when the upstream source hasn’t changed) and pristine-tar is
known to be a huge hack and fail to provide correct tarballs,
especially when xz is used.

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Re: [Python-modules-team] python-xlib_0.26-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2020-03-21 Thread Sandro Tosi
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 18:01, Sandro Tosi  wrote:
> > Andrej,
> > why the pristine-tar information are now in a `pristine-lfs` branch?
> > where did the other pristine-tar deltas go?
>
> Because it’s simpler and better as it guarantees the tarballs are bit
> to bit identical, which pristine-tar so often fails to do. There was
> no pristine-tar or pristine-lfs information for earlier uploads.

but our team policy requires to use pristine-tar:
https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-modules/blob/master/policy.rst

please adjust, so that we can all use the same tools and procedures.

Regards,
-- 
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My website: http://sandrotosi.me/
Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi
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Re: [Python-modules-team] python-xlib_0.26-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2020-03-21 Thread Andrej Shadura
Hi,

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 18:01, Sandro Tosi  wrote:
> Andrej,
> why the pristine-tar information are now in a `pristine-lfs` branch?
> where did the other pristine-tar deltas go?

Because it’s simpler and better as it guarantees the tarballs are bit
to bit identical, which pristine-tar so often fails to do. There was
no pristine-tar or pristine-lfs information for earlier uploads.

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Re: [Python-modules-team] python-xlib_0.26-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2020-03-21 Thread Sandro Tosi
Andrej,
why the pristine-tar information are now in a `pristine-lfs` branch?
where did the other pristine-tar deltas go?

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 1:19 PM Debian FTP Masters
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>
>
>
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> Maintainer: Debian Python Modules Team 
> 
> Changed-By: Andrej Shadura 
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[Python-modules-team] python-xlib_0.26-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2020-03-02 Thread Debian FTP Masters


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Maintainer: Debian Python Modules Team 

Changed-By: Andrej Shadura 
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   * Use debhelper-compat instead of debian/compat.
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   [ Andrej Shadura ]
   * New upstream release.
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