Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app failure with framework build of 2.7

2013-04-05 Thread Ronald Oussoren

On 4 Apr, 2013, at 17:01, Nat Echols nathaniel.ech...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com 
 wrote:
 Replying to my own post: after sending this, I read the section in the
 documentation about alias mode.  This seems to work fine, and
 produces an app that is 50KB instead of nearly 9MB.  Since I'm running
 this script as part of a complicated build and installation process,
 and the path to the interpreter and all modules is frozen by the time
 I need to make my app, it would seem that alias mode should work fine
 for actually *deploying* my software.  Is there any drawback to doing
 this?
 
 An alias mode build contains symlinks to the python files in your 
 application, and is therefore not a useful way to deploy.
 
 It's still not totally clear to me if this is really a drawback in my
 case.  The software distribution in question is a huge (~2GB) mess
 originally written for Unix systems, and the installation process is
 somewhat... inelegant.  Users have a choice of a) running a shell
 script which installs to a destination of their choice, and runs the
 py2app script at the end (after the new location is made permanent),
 or b) running a .pkg which installs in /Applications, which includes
 the pre-built .app file.  In the first case, I'm pretty certain the
 symlinks won't be a problem.  I'm not sure about the second - will
 packagemaker screw these up?  The original paths will be accurate but
 I have to move stuff around as part of the packaging process, and I
 have no idea what happens internally.

Packagemaker should't be problem here, although the build procedure might
be problematic: IIRC the app bundle contains symlinks where the target
is an absolute path, and therefore you need to create the app from
sources that are already in the final location (e.g. somewhere below 
/Applications).

It might be better to create a --semi-standalone, --use-sitepackages build, and
--exclude most of the code. Assuming you also install a shared library build
(either --enable-shared or --enable-framework) of Python in /Applications that 
should be fairly easy to get to work (you have to update the application's 
Info.plist 
to force it to look for Python in the right location, but that's the hardest 
part).

The primary reason I dislike using an alias build for deployment is that alias
builds are meant to be a way to speed up development and I might accidently 
break
the deployment usecase when I find ways to make alias builds better for
the application development use case.

Ronald

 
 thanks,
 Nat

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app failure with framework build of 2.7

2013-04-05 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote:
 Packagemaker should't be problem here, although the build procedure might
 be problematic: IIRC the app bundle contains symlinks where the target
 is an absolute path, and therefore you need to create the app from
 sources that are already in the final location (e.g. somewhere below 
 /Applications).

In fact this does appear to be problematic in our build system - the
resulting .app contains references to the directory where I built the
package.  It appears, however, that the self-contained app builds okay
in this context; the only place where the apparent bug shows up is on
my laptop, where everything was installed more-or-less manually.  I'm
a little spooked by this, since it makes me suspect that my script
isn't as general-purpose as would be ideal, but at least this should
allow me to build working installers for distribution.

-Nat
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