Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h
In article rowen-d2392e.14473313022...@news.gmane.org, Russell E. Owen ro...@uw.edu wrote: In article nad-ffa1b0.21415009022...@news.gmane.org, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article rowen-acaa42.11370509022...@news.gmane.org, Russell E. Owen ro...@uw.edu wrote: I suggest you try one of these things: - Use gcc 4.0.1 to build extensions for 32-bit python.org python. That's what I'm still doing. It requires XCode 3.x. Yes. - Use gcc 4.2.1 to build extensions for 64-bit python.org python. Two issues: - you give up compatibility with MacOS X 10.5. - The result will not work with ActiveState's Tcl/Tk. Not a problem for you, but both of these are unacceptable for my code. I don't understand what you mean by this. The python.org 64-/32-bit installers have a deployment target of 10.6 so will only work on 10.6 and 10.7 but they should work just fine with ActiveState's Tcl/Tk 8.5.x on 10.6 and 10.7, just not on 10.5. In fact, the installers are built and tested on systems with A/S Tcl/Tk 8.5.x and are their use is virtually required on 10.6 for any Tkinter applications due to the broken state of the Apple-supplied in Tcl/Tk 8.5.x in 10.6 (the Apple-supplied Tcl/Tk 8.5.x is better in 10.7 but still behind the A/S version wrt critical fixes.) http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ Interesting and promising. The reason I thought python.org's 64-bit python was strange w.r.t. ActiveState Tcl/Tk is explained in a copy of a posting I sent to the matplotlib mailing list 2011-10-12 (appended). Keven Walzer suggested the following, which now that I reread it does not implicate the Python in any way, so I apologize. With Tk-Cocoa, typically you see this message when mixing libraries that are linked to the system Tk in /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework and another installation (typically ActiveTcl) in /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework. OS X gets confused and crashes with that error message. The only solution I've found is by making sure that all of your Tk-linked libraries link to one location or the other. You can do this by running otool -L on the relevant binaries and seeing where things are linked. If you're only seeing this issue now after building matplotlib, then it's logical to assume that matplotlib may have been linked to the wrong library. You can change the linking by running install_name_tool to get matplotlib to point to the correct version of Tk. His suggestion will almost certainly work, but it seems unfortunate to have to run install_name_tool to fix the matplotlib binaries. Perhaps I could have hidden the system Tcl/Tk before building matplotlib, but again it seems unfortunate to need to do that. Any idea, perchance, on how to fix the underlying problem? You *may* have run into a bug I've noticed a while back in Xcode 3.2.6. The Xcode installer appears to screw up the symlinks to /Library within /Developer/SDKs. The net effect is that frameworks installed in /Library, like A/S Tcl and Tk, are not found during a build using the SDK as they should be. $ cd /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk/Library $ ls -l total 8 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19 Mar 17 18:24 Frameworks@ - /Library/Frameworks it ends up with an extra Frameworks directory so that /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk/Library/Frameworks/Frameworks/ - /Library/Frameworks The solution is to manually go in and fix the symlinks in /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk, and remember to do so again if you have to reinstall Xcode 3.2.6. AFAIK, this bug is unique to Xcode 3.2.6, not earlier versions of 3.2.x. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h
In article nad-d7677e.15460414022...@news.gmane.org, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: ... You *may* have run into a bug I've noticed a while back in Xcode 3.2.6. The Xcode installer appears to screw up the symlinks to /Library within /Developer/SDKs. The net effect is that frameworks installed in /Library, like A/S Tcl and Tk, are not found during a build using the SDK as they should be. $ cd /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk/Library $ ls -l total 8 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19 Mar 17 18:24 Frameworks@ - /Library/Frameworks it ends up with an extra Frameworks directory so that /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk/Library/Frameworks/Frameworks/ - /Library/Frameworks The solution is to manually go in and fix the symlinks in /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk, and remember to do so again if you have to reinstall Xcode 3.2.6. AFAIK, this bug is unique to Xcode 3.2.6, not earlier versions of 3.2.x. My symlinks are broken as you describe (though oddly /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk/Library/Frameworks contains both the symlink Frameworks-Library/Frameworks that you mentioned and also PluginManager.framework). I'll fix it and try building matplotlib again. Thank you very much! -- Russell ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h
In article rowen-7e9d15.12573914022...@news.gmane.org, Russell E. Owen ro...@uw.edu wrote: My symlinks are broken as you describe (though oddly /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk/Library/Frameworks contains both the symlink Frameworks-Library/Frameworks that you mentioned and also PluginManager.framework). I'll fix it and try building matplotlib again. Thank you very much! Glad it helped. I've opened Issue14018 to add a check to the OS X installer build script to make sure that tkinter is linked as expected with the A/S frameworks. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h
In article nad-ffa1b0.21415009022...@news.gmane.org, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article rowen-acaa42.11370509022...@news.gmane.org, Russell E. Owen ro...@uw.edu wrote: I suggest you try one of these things: - Use gcc 4.0.1 to build extensions for 32-bit python.org python. That's what I'm still doing. It requires XCode 3.x. Yes. - Use gcc 4.2.1 to build extensions for 64-bit python.org python. Two issues: - you give up compatibility with MacOS X 10.5. - The result will not work with ActiveState's Tcl/Tk. Not a problem for you, but both of these are unacceptable for my code. I don't understand what you mean by this. The python.org 64-/32-bit installers have a deployment target of 10.6 so will only work on 10.6 and 10.7 but they should work just fine with ActiveState's Tcl/Tk 8.5.x on 10.6 and 10.7, just not on 10.5. In fact, the installers are built and tested on systems with A/S Tcl/Tk 8.5.x and are their use is virtually required on 10.6 for any Tkinter applications due to the broken state of the Apple-supplied in Tcl/Tk 8.5.x in 10.6 (the Apple-supplied Tcl/Tk 8.5.x is better in 10.7 but still behind the A/S version wrt critical fixes.) http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ Interesting and promising. The reason I thought python.org's 64-bit python was strange w.r.t. ActiveState Tcl/Tk is explained in a copy of a posting I sent to the matplotlib mailing list 2011-10-12 (appended). Keven Walzer suggested the following, which now that I reread it does not implicate the Python in any way, so I apologize. With Tk-Cocoa, typically you see this message when mixing libraries that are linked to the system Tk in /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework and another installation (typically ActiveTcl) in /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework. OS X gets confused and crashes with that error message. The only solution I've found is by making sure that all of your Tk-linked libraries link to one location or the other. You can do this by running otool -L on the relevant binaries and seeing where things are linked. If you're only seeing this issue now after building matplotlib, then it's logical to assume that matplotlib may have been linked to the wrong library. You can change the linking by running install_name_tool to get matplotlib to point to the correct version of Tk. His suggestion will almost certainly work, but it seems unfortunate to have to run install_name_tool to fix the matplotlib binaries. Perhaps I could have hidden the system Tcl/Tk before building matplotlib, but again it seems unfortunate to need to do that. Any idea, perchance, on how to fix the underlying problem? -- Russell --- I'm on MacOS X 10.6.8 using 64-bit Python 2.7.2 from python.org (the 10.6 version) and ActiveState Tcl/Tk 8.5.10. I would like to build matplotlib 1.1.0 (in fact I'd like to build an official binary installer) and am running into problems. The build and install goes fine, though with a few odd messages (see appended log). But importing pylab rusults in: objc[1083]: Class TKApplication is implemented in both /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk and /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk. One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined. objc[1083]: Class TKMenu is implemented in both /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk and /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk. One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined. objc[1083]: Class TKContentView is implemented in both /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk and /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk. One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined. objc[1083]: Class TKWindow is implemented in both /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk and /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk. One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined. Any idea how to deal with this? Google turned up others with this problem but no obvious solution. -- Russell P.S. partial log of build (not install) of matplotlib: Edit setupext.py to point it to Apple's built-in libraries, plus include /usr/local (which doesn't have a lot in it --nothing in lib or includes): 'darwin' : ['/usr/local', '/usr', '/usr/X11'], $ python setup.py build BUILDING MATPLOTLIB ???matplotlib: 1.1.0 ???python: 2.7.2 (v2.7.2:8527427914a2, Jun 11 2011, 15:22:34) ???[GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] ?platform: darwin REQUIRED DEPENDENCIES numpy: 1.6.1 freetype2: found, but unknown version (no pkg-config) OPTIONAL BACKEND DEPENDENCIES ???libpng: found, but unknown version (no pkg-config) ??Tkinter: Tkinter: version not identified, Tk: 8.5, Tcl: 8.5 ?Gtk+: no ???* Building for Gtk+ requires pygtk; you must be
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: If it is using C++ code, though, you may have to override that yourself since Python itself does not contain any C++ code and I don't think there is any special code in Distutils to override C++ stuff. That could be it, too. 2) how do I use 4.01. with distutils? For the any C++ modules, you may need to override the C++ compiler choice by using a CXX environment variable. OK -- I'll try that. Bingo! I did: $ export CXX=/usr/bin/g++-4.0 then $ python setup.py build and it built fine. Actually, it chocked when it couldn't find the wxPython libs, but I disab'ed that, as I don't need it right now -- and then it built fine. Thanks so much for your help! -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/ORR (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception chris.bar...@noaa.gov ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
[Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h
darn, forgot to send to the list again -- I hate these defaults! -- Forwarded message -- From: Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov Date: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] distutils and stdarg.h To: Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: against the python.org 32 bit Intel/PPC build of python 2.7 I'm getting a bunch of errors like: /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/include/stdarg.h:4:25: error: stdarg.h: No such file or directory That file does exist, but it uses: #include_next stdarg.h What compiler version do you use? It's using g++ 4.2.1 One thing you could try is to drop support for ppc, for example by adding [-arch, i386] to extra_compiler_args in the definition of the Extension in setup.py. I'll give that try, but ... Recent Xcode releases do not include a compiler that supports the powerpc architecture. I've made a point of not upgrading XCode for that reason -- and I'm not having trouble compiling PPC versions other extensions. I'm pretty sure I've done both C and C++ ones, too. I'm thinking that some of the standard stuff that distutils adds has been overridden by this build -- it's a big, complicated setup, using numpy, distutils, etc. I'm having trouble following it all (or simplifying it -- I don't need the whole package anyway). Entought is no longer testing on this distribution of Python, nor PPC at all, I believe, so they could have inadvertently broken it easily enough. thanks, -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/ORR (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception chris.bar...@noaa.gov -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/ORR (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception chris.bar...@noaa.gov ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h
In article calgmxe+esre4vbpqzxcapr_wigat8nt75_kghhxcoacy8rm...@mail.gmail.com, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: darn, forgot to send to the list again -- I hate these defaults! -- Forwarded message -- From: Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov Date: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] distutils and stdarg.h To: Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: against the python.org 32 bit Intel/PPC build of python 2.7 I'm getting a bunch of errors like: /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/include/stdarg.h:4:25: error: stdarg.h: No such file or directory That file does exist, but it uses: #include_next stdarg.h What compiler version do you use? It's using g++ 4.2.1 I suggest you try one of these things: - Use gcc 4.0.1 to build extensions for 32-bit python.org python. That's what I'm still doing. It requires XCode 3.x. - Use gcc 4.2.1 to build extensions for 64-bit python.org python. Two issues: - you give up compatibility with MacOS X 10.5. - The result will not work with ActiveState's Tcl/Tk. Not a problem for you, but both of these are unacceptable for my code. - Use gcc 4.2.1 and ActiveState's 64-bit python 2.7. That supposedly gives you compatibility with MacOS X 10.5 and it surely works with ActiveState's Tcl/Tk. But you may need a license to distribute the results (likely free in your case). This is the way I'm leaning, and I even got a license, but I'm reluctant to give up on python.or python. -- Russell ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Russell E. Owen ro...@uw.edu wrote: I suggest you try one of these things: - Use gcc 4.0.1 to build extensions for 32-bit python.org python. That's what I'm still doing. It requires XCode 3.x. Thanks -- Ill try that. but: 1) I thought distutils took care of calling the right compliler to match what pyotn had been built with. I guess not. 2) how do I use 4.01. with distutils? Thanks, -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/ORR (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception chris.bar...@noaa.gov ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h
In article rowen-acaa42.11370509022...@news.gmane.org, Russell E. Owen ro...@uw.edu wrote: I suggest you try one of these things: - Use gcc 4.0.1 to build extensions for 32-bit python.org python. That's what I'm still doing. It requires XCode 3.x. Yes. - Use gcc 4.2.1 to build extensions for 64-bit python.org python. Two issues: - you give up compatibility with MacOS X 10.5. - The result will not work with ActiveState's Tcl/Tk. Not a problem for you, but both of these are unacceptable for my code. I don't understand what you mean by this. The python.org 64-/32-bit installers have a deployment target of 10.6 so will only work on 10.6 and 10.7 but they should work just fine with ActiveState's Tcl/Tk 8.5.x on 10.6 and 10.7, just not on 10.5. In fact, the installers are built and tested on systems with A/S Tcl/Tk 8.5.x and are their use is virtually required on 10.6 for any Tkinter applications due to the broken state of the Apple-supplied in Tcl/Tk 8.5.x in 10.6 (the Apple-supplied Tcl/Tk 8.5.x is better in 10.7 but still behind the A/S version wrt critical fixes.) http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h
In article CALGmxEJVLD6fvUTxzhm3DfNDCLGC8wH_-UY-hGOOPF=qy9c...@mail.gmail.com, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Russell E. Owen ro...@uw.edu wrote: I suggest you try one of these things: - Use gcc 4.0.1 to build extensions for 32-bit python.org python. That's what I'm still doing. It requires XCode 3.x. Thanks -- Ill try that. but: 1) I thought distutils took care of calling the right compliler to match what pyotn had been built with. I guess not. Distutils *does* try to call the right CC compiler (that is, the compiler the Python itself was built with), unless the module/package/distribution's setup.py overrides it. If it is using C++ code, though, you may have to override that yourself since Python itself does not contain any C++ code and I don't think there is any special code in Distutils to override C++ stuff. 2) how do I use 4.01. with distutils? For the any C++ modules, you may need to override the C++ compiler choice by using a CXX environment variable. What OS version are you trying this on, BTW? -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: distutils and stdarg.h
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: 1) I thought distutils took care of calling the right compliler to match what pyotn had been built with. I guess not. Distutils *does* try to call the right CC compiler (that is, the compiler the Python itself was built with), unless the module/package/distribution's setup.py overrides it. it's possible that that's what's happening -- as I said, this is an ugly complicated mess. If it is using C++ code, though, you may have to override that yourself since Python itself does not contain any C++ code and I don't think there is any special code in Distutils to override C++ stuff. That could be it, too. 2) how do I use 4.01. with distutils? For the any C++ modules, you may need to override the C++ compiler choice by using a CXX environment variable. OK -- I'll try that. What OS version are you trying this on, BTW? 10.6.8 Intel Corei7 I'll le tyou know how it works out when a get a chance. Thanks for your ideas. Any of you going to PyCon this year? -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/ORR (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception chris.bar...@noaa.gov ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
