[Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] Announcing Metatools plugin

2011-08-23 Thread Alexander Bruy
Hi,

2011/8/22 maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com:
 I can edit and add metadata but I cannot view existing metadata.  I
 get this error:
 Plugin can't be loaded: Qt version must be higher than 4.6.0!
 Currently running: 4.7.3
 Looking forward to the Dublin Core template.
Can you test 0.1.13 version? We add some changes that probably
should fix this issue.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] analytical workflow

2011-08-23 Thread Martin Dobias
Hi Paolo

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote:
 Hi all.
 One of the great thing we plan to develop for the new Processing framework it 
 to make
 easy for user to pipe one command into another, so to build complex workflows 
 of
 analysis.
 One idea: add a + button on the single module window to add further modules 
 in a
 chain, taking the output of the first command and giving it as an input to 
 the next
 one; moreover we could have a Save button to store the command sequence in a 
 file.
 Of course one could think of more complex extensions, adding support for 
 cycles,
 recursivity etc., but this seems a simple approach to start with.
 Comments or ideas?

I am not sure if it makes sense to spend time on a solution like this
because the number of use cases is quite limited. Surely one could
create simple linear chains of modules, but creating anything more
complex would be quite inconvenient (e.g. a process where module C
uses output of modules A and B). I believe that a graphical model
builder (where a box = module, an arrow = data transfer) is the only
long term solution, something like this:
http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/WxGUI_Modeler

Martin
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Re: [Qgis-developer] analytical workflow

2011-08-23 Thread Werner Macho
Hi!

I agree with martin - such a Modeler could be a great improvement but
I assumed it would be somethink like the WxGUI_Modeler ..
(Also ESRI has something like that)
Putting things(modules) together like a diagram would be much easier
for the user than remembering a chain ..
Did not Tim start something like that with Openmodeler?
(http://openmodeller.sourceforge.net/)
Do you think we could use that?

regards
Werner

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Paolo

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it 
 wrote:
 Hi all.
 One of the great thing we plan to develop for the new Processing framework 
 it to make
 easy for user to pipe one command into another, so to build complex 
 workflows of
 analysis.
 One idea: add a + button on the single module window to add further modules 
 in a
 chain, taking the output of the first command and giving it as an input to 
 the next
 one; moreover we could have a Save button to store the command sequence in a 
 file.
 Of course one could think of more complex extensions, adding support for 
 cycles,
 recursivity etc., but this seems a simple approach to start with.
 Comments or ideas?

 I am not sure if it makes sense to spend time on a solution like this
 because the number of use cases is quite limited. Surely one could
 create simple linear chains of modules, but creating anything more
 complex would be quite inconvenient (e.g. a process where module C
 uses output of modules A and B). I believe that a graphical model
 builder (where a box = module, an arrow = data transfer) is the only
 long term solution, something like this:
 http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/WxGUI_Modeler

 Martin
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Re: [Qgis-developer] analytical workflow

2011-08-23 Thread Noli Sicad
There is PyQt Visual Modeller for R package (i.e. Red R) which is sort
of derivative of Orange.

Red R
http://www.red-r.org/

Orange
http://orange.biolab.si/features.html

This is similar to ArcGIS Model Builder.

The beauty of Red-R and Orange is uses python and Qt (i.e. PyQt), so I
can be easily adapted for QGIS instead of using WxPython which Grass
use.

Noli





On 8/23/11, Werner Macho werner.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 I agree with martin - such a Modeler could be a great improvement but
 I assumed it would be somethink like the WxGUI_Modeler ..
 (Also ESRI has something like that)
 Putting things(modules) together like a diagram would be much easier
 for the user than remembering a chain ..
 Did not Tim start something like that with Openmodeler?
 (http://openmodeller.sourceforge.net/)
 Do you think we could use that?

 regards
 Werner

 On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Paolo

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it
 wrote:
 Hi all.
 One of the great thing we plan to develop for the new Processing
 framework it to make
 easy for user to pipe one command into another, so to build complex
 workflows of
 analysis.
 One idea: add a + button on the single module window to add further
 modules in a
 chain, taking the output of the first command and giving it as an input
 to the next
 one; moreover we could have a Save button to store the command sequence
 in a file.
 Of course one could think of more complex extensions, adding support for
 cycles,
 recursivity etc., but this seems a simple approach to start with.
 Comments or ideas?

 I am not sure if it makes sense to spend time on a solution like this
 because the number of use cases is quite limited. Surely one could
 create simple linear chains of modules, but creating anything more
 complex would be quite inconvenient (e.g. a process where module C
 uses output of modules A and B). I believe that a graphical model
 builder (where a box = module, an arrow = data transfer) is the only
 long term solution, something like this:
 http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/WxGUI_Modeler

 Martin
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Re: [Qgis-developer] analytical workflow

2011-08-23 Thread cavall...@faunalia.it
Agreed - I think it should be in python though.
Thanks.

http://faunalia.it/pc

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Hi!

I agree with martin - such a Modeler could be a great improvement but
I assumed it would be somethink like the WxGUI_Modeler ..
(Also ESRI has something like that)
Putting things(modules) together like a diagram would be much easier
for the user than remembering a chain ..
Did not Tim start something like that with Openmodeler?
(http://openmodeller.sourceforge.net/)
Do you think we could use that?

regards
Werner

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Paolo

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it 
 wrote:
 Hi all.
 One of the great thing we plan to develop for the new Processing framework 
 it to make
 easy for user to pipe one command into another, so to build complex 
 workflows of
 analysis.
 One idea: add a + button on the single module window to add further modules 
 in a
 chain, taking the output of the first command and giving it as an input to 
 the next
 one; moreover we could have a Save button to store the command sequence in a 
 file.
 Of course one could think of more complex extensions, adding support for 
 cycles,
 recursivity etc., but this seems a simple approach to start with.
 Comments or ideas?

 I am not sure if it makes sense to spend time on a solution like this
 because the number of use cases is quite limited. Surely one could
 create simple linear chains of modules, but creating anything more
 complex would be quite inconvenient (e.g. a process where module C
 uses output of modules A and B). I believe that a graphical model
 builder (where a box = module, an arrow = data transfer) is the only
 long term solution, something like this:
 http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/WxGUI_Modeler

 Martin
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Re: [Qgis-developer] analytical workflow

2011-08-23 Thread Andreas Neumann
Personally I use FME (Safe Software, commercial) which has a graphical 
workbench. I think it is quite powerfuly and easy to use (not for 
everything, but a lot).


Geokettle is something similar to FME (based on Java and not as 
powerful as FME, but getting closer).


It would be nice to have something similar that integrates nicely with 
QGIS.


Andreas

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:08:23 +0200, Martin Dobias wrote:

Hi Paolo

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Paolo Cavallini
cavall...@faunalia.it wrote:

Hi all.
One of the great thing we plan to develop for the new Processing 
framework it to make
easy for user to pipe one command into another, so to build complex 
workflows of

analysis.
One idea: add a + button on the single module window to add further 
modules in a
chain, taking the output of the first command and giving it as an 
input to the next
one; moreover we could have a Save button to store the command 
sequence in a file.
Of course one could think of more complex extensions, adding support 
for cycles,

recursivity etc., but this seems a simple approach to start with.
Comments or ideas?


I am not sure if it makes sense to spend time on a solution like this
because the number of use cases is quite limited. Surely one could
create simple linear chains of modules, but creating anything more
complex would be quite inconvenient (e.g. a process where module C
uses output of modules A and B). I believe that a graphical model
builder (where a box = module, an arrow = data transfer) is the only
long term solution, something like this:
http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/WxGUI_Modeler

Martin
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[Qgis-developer] Different behavior getting crs from SL and PG provider

2011-08-23 Thread Giuseppe Sucameli
Hi devs,
working on the import layer feature I noticed that there's a difference
when getting the layer CRS using the PG and SL provider's crs() method.

While the PG crs() calls the QgsCoordinateReferenceSystem::createFromSrid,
the SL crs method instead uses the
QgsCoordinateReferenceSystem::createFromPrj4.

This is an inconsistent behavior.

When I load a table with geometry and srid 3003,
if the source is a PG database I get a layer with the QGis 3003 definition
that contains towgs84 params, otherwise from SL I get a layer with a
custom CRS, similar to the QGis one but without the towgs84 params.

This creates some problems trying to import the SL layer into a PG database
because QGis is unable to get the postgisSrid from the SL layer with the
custom CRS, even if it should be 3003.

I think both should work in the same manner, but I don't know if it's more
correct to get crs from srid (in this case both the layers will use the QGis

crs definition) or from the proj4string.

Any idea?

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[Qgis-developer] Release plans for 1.7.1

2011-08-23 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi All

I would like to put out a maintenance release of the 1.7 branch at the
end of this month. There won't be too much activity surrounding the
release as the branch is in feature freeze. There may have been some
small string changes so it would be good if the translators could give
the branch a quick once over.

I am behind a couple of weeks on checking the application of
backportable code, but I will be going over the last few weeks of
commits and backporting anything relevant to the release branch.
If you have applied bug fixes to master, it would be great if you
could help me to make sure they have also been applied to the release
branch.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] analytical workflow

2011-08-23 Thread Camilo Polymeris
 I agree with martin - such a Modeler could be a great improvement but
 I assumed it would be somethink like the WxGUI_Modeler ..

Yes, I also imagine something similar.
But, I prefer more ordered layouts, where you have all outputs in a
column on the left side, and all inputs in a column on the right side.
In between all connections displayed as lines of different color
depending on parameter type and such.

A bit like qjackctl's patchbay:
http://ubuntu.allmyapps.com/data/q/j/qjackctl-jack-control/UBUNTU-9.04/qjackctlPatchbayForm1.png

It looks tidier and would also be a bit easier to implement than
free-floating boxes.

On the logic side:
For input and output the most flexible would be to use python scripts.
Of course, it is harder than e.g. XML, and there would be limits to
what python code it would understand on input. But still, I think it
is the best option.

The user would then have the option of saving these workflow presets
and using them like any regular module.

Camilo
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[Qgis-developer] QGIS on android final report

2011-08-23 Thread Marco Bernasocchi
hi all, Great news, android qgis supports spatialite, partially shp, 
probably postgres (haven't tryed jet). soon a video and pics.


ciao good night
Marco

[0] 
http://www.bernawebdesign.ch/byteblog/2011/08/24/gsoc-2011-final-report/

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