Re: [QGIS-Developer] Downloads and random languages

[Vedran Stojnović via QGIS-Developer]

Hi Colin,

no, I'm not using VPN. Language decision may be up to browser, I understand
that, but both problems started recently (maybe few months ago) and I get
this weird behavior only on QGIS.org, I do not notice this on any other
website.

Also I believe it's not connected to my internet provider, because this
problems also happen on my computer at work where we use different provider
(also optical, high bandwidth internet connection).

ned, 24. ruj 2023. u 00:57 Colin Sare-Soar via QGIS-Developer <
qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org> napisao je:

> I suspect that this is not particularly QGis related. Are you using a VPN?
> I get this often on various sites. It seems to be the browser that makes
> this decision, despite me setting everything to English.
>
> As for the speed, well that is always variable. I use certain apps that
> sometimes require heavy downloads like Qt and X-Plane and I also have quite
> a fast internet connection. I usually end up either choosing a different
> VPN server or disabling it temporarily.
> Colin
>
>
> > On 24/09/2023 04:56 +07 qgis-developer-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote:
> >
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> >1. Re: Download troubles? Download in the background?
> >   (Vedran Stojnovi?)
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> > Hi,
> >
> > I believe this reports from users are because of some problem with
> servers or website lately.
> > I also encountered several times lately very very slow download rates
> even though I have high bandwidth, optical internet connection (see my
> speedtest result: Speedtest by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test).
> >
> > The solution for me was to start download again, but I can easily
> imagine that users thought that they need to donate to get better download
> speeds. From my testing, I got best download speeds from Norbit server.
> >
> > One other thing that I noticed lately is that main page (qgis.org)
> opens a random language version of website. There is no translation to
> Croatian so I expect to get English version, but I get randomly other
> languages - just tested it this moment, and I got Italian version - "
> https://qgis.org/it/site/;, but lately I've often experienced Hungarian
> version a lot, and once or twice, I got a Greek version, although I always
> enter "qgis.org" in the address bar.
> >
> > Maybe this weird redirection to another language is related to slow
> download speeds.
> >
> >
> > čet, 21. ruj 2023. u 16:35 DelazJ via QGIS-Developer <
> qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org> napisao je:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > At https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/pull/1184, I made a pull
> request to update the "Thank you" text based on Nick's suggestion
> (basically, put download info in bold and split whole text in many
> paragraphs). I do not feel really comfortable with mentioning support
> (companies) there, or do I not find the right formulation...
> > > Whoever feels interested in fixing that part of the issue, the source
> files are accessible generally from the "fix me" URL at the bottom of the
> page or under
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/tree/master/themes/qgis-theme.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Harrissou
> > >
> > > Le jeu. 21 sept. 2023 à 15:19, Bourdon, Jean-François (DIF) via
> QGIS-Developer  a écrit :
> > > > [Intranet logo]
> > > >
> > > > To continue on the topic of donation and support, although I find it
> strange that someone doing a donation is expecting at the same time to
> receive special support (donation != license), maybe a precision should be
> made on the donation page (https://donate.qgis.org/) like:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > “Please note that making a donation doesn’t grant any additional
> support than what can be found at the support page (
> https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/support.html). For any specific
> need, you might contact one of the numerous companies offering commercial
> support (
> https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/commercial_support.html#qgis-commercial-support).
> ”
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Maybe this same text could be add to the section “What is your
> benefit supporting the QGIS Development?” for the Sustaining Membership
> Program.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

[QGIS-Developer] Downloads and random languages

[Colin Sare-Soar via QGIS-Developer]

I suspect that this is not particularly QGis related. Are you using a VPN? I 
get this often on various sites. It seems to be the browser that makes this 
decision, despite me setting everything to English.

As for the speed, well that is always variable. I use certain apps that 
sometimes require heavy downloads like Qt and X-Plane and I also have quite a 
fast internet connection. I usually end up either choosing a different VPN 
server or disabling it temporarily.
Colin


> On 24/09/2023 04:56 +07 qgis-developer-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote:
> 
>  
> Send QGIS-Developer mailing list submissions to
>   qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org
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> 
> You can reach the person managing the list at
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> Today's Topics:
> 
>1. Re: Download troubles? Download in the background?
>   (Vedran Stojnovi?)
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> Hi,
> 
> I believe this reports from users are because of some problem with servers or 
> website lately.
> I also encountered several times lately very very slow download rates even 
> though I have high bandwidth, optical internet connection (see my speedtest 
> result: Speedtest by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test).
> 
> The solution for me was to start download again, but I can easily imagine 
> that users thought that they need to donate to get better download speeds. 
> From my testing, I got best download speeds from Norbit server.
> 
> One other thing that I noticed lately is that main page (qgis.org) opens a 
> random language version of website. There is no translation to Croatian so I 
> expect to get English version, but I get randomly other languages - just 
> tested it this moment, and I got Italian version - 
> "https://qgis.org/it/site/;, but lately I've often experienced Hungarian 
> version a lot, and once or twice, I got a Greek version, although I always 
> enter "qgis.org" in the address bar.
> 
> Maybe this weird redirection to another language is related to slow download 
> speeds.
> 
> 
> čet, 21. ruj 2023. u 16:35 DelazJ via QGIS-Developer 
>  napisao je:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > At https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/pull/1184, I made a pull request to 
> > update the "Thank you" text based on Nick's suggestion (basically, put 
> > download info in bold and split whole text in many paragraphs). I do not 
> > feel really comfortable with mentioning support (companies) there, or do I 
> > not find the right formulation...
> > Whoever feels interested in fixing that part of the issue, the source files 
> > are accessible generally from the "fix me" URL at the bottom of the page or 
> > under https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/tree/master/themes/qgis-theme.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Harrissou
> > 
> > Le jeu. 21 sept. 2023 à 15:19, Bourdon, Jean-François (DIF) via 
> > QGIS-Developer  a écrit :
> > > [Intranet logo]
> > > 
> > > To continue on the topic of donation and support, although I find it 
> > > strange that someone doing a donation is expecting at the same time to 
> > > receive special support (donation != license), maybe a precision should 
> > > be made on the donation page (https://donate.qgis.org/) like:
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > “Please note that making a donation doesn’t grant any additional support 
> > > than what can be found at the support page 
> > > (https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/support.html). For any specific 
> > > need, you might contact one of the numerous companies offering commercial 
> > > support 
> > > (https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/commercial_support.html#qgis-commercial-support).”
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Maybe this same text could be add to the section “What is your benefit 
> > > supporting the QGIS Development?” for the Sustaining Membership Program.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Jean-François Bourdon, ing.f.
> > > 
> > > Analyste en télédétection
> > > Direction des inventaires forestiers
> > > Ministère des Ressources naturelles et des Forêts
> > > 5700, 4e Avenue Ouest, local A-108
> > > Québec (Québec) G1H 6R1
> > > Téléphone : 418 627-8669, poste 704304
> > > jean-francois.bour...@mrnf.gouv.qc.ca
> > > mrnf.gouv.qc.ca
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > De : QGIS-Developer  De la part 
> > > de Emma Hain via QGIS-Developer
> > > Envoyé : 20 septembre 2023 20:57
> > > À : Nick Bearman 
> > > Cc : qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org
> > > Objet : Re: [QGIS-Developer] 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Download troubles? Download in the background?

[Vedran Stojnović via QGIS-Developer]

Hi,

I believe this reports from users are because of some problem with servers
or website lately.
I also encountered several times lately very very slow download rates even
though I have high bandwidth, optical internet connection (see my speedtest
result: Speedtest by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test
).

The solution for me was to start download again, but I can easily imagine
that users thought that they need to donate to get better download speeds.
>From my testing, I got best download speeds from Norbit server.

One other thing that I noticed lately is that main page (qgis.org) opens a
random language version of website. There is no translation to Croatian so
I expect to get English version, but I get randomly other languages - just
tested it this moment, and I got Italian version - "
https://qgis.org/it/site/;, but lately I've often experienced Hungarian
version a lot, and once or twice, I got a Greek version, although I always
enter "qgis.org" in the address bar.

Maybe this weird redirection to another language is related to slow
download speeds.


čet, 21. ruj 2023. u 16:35 DelazJ via QGIS-Developer <
qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org> napisao je:

> Hi,
>
> At https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/pull/1184, I made a pull request
> to update the "Thank you" text based on Nick's suggestion (basically, put
> download info in bold and split whole text in many paragraphs). I do not
> feel really comfortable with mentioning support (companies) there, or do I
> not find the right formulation...
> Whoever feels interested in fixing that part of the issue, the source
> files are accessible generally from the "fix me" URL at the bottom of the
> page or under
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/tree/master/themes/qgis-theme.
>
> Regards,
> Harrissou
>
> Le jeu. 21 sept. 2023 à 15:19, Bourdon, Jean-François (DIF) via
> QGIS-Developer  a écrit :
>
>> [image: Intranet logo]
>>
>> To continue on the topic of donation and support, although I find it
>> strange that someone doing a donation is expecting at the same time to
>> receive special support (donation != license), maybe a precision should be
>> made on the donation page (https://donate.qgis.org/) like:
>>
>>
>>
>> “Please note that making a donation doesn’t grant any additional support
>> than what can be found at the support page (
>> https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/support.html). For any specific
>> need, you might contact one of the numerous companies offering commercial
>> support (
>> https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/commercial_support.html#qgis-commercial-support)
>> .”
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe this same text could be add to the section “What is your benefit
>> supporting the QGIS Development?” for the Sustaining Membership Program.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jean-François Bourdon, ing.f.*
>>
>> *Analyste en télédétection*
>> *Direction des inventaires forestiers*
>> *Ministère des Ressources naturelles et des Forêts*
>> 5700, 4e Avenue Ouest, local A-108
>> Québec (Québec) G1H 6R1
>> Téléphone : 418 627-8669, poste 704304
>> *jean-francois.bour...@mrnf.gouv.qc.ca
>> *
>> *mrnf.gouv.qc.ca* 
>>
>>
>>
>> *De :* QGIS-Developer  *De la
>> part de* Emma Hain via QGIS-Developer
>> *Envoyé :* 20 septembre 2023 20:57
>> *À :* Nick Bearman 
>> *Cc :* qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org
>> *Objet :* Re: [QGIS-Developer] Download troubles? Download in the
>> background?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think this looks good Nick, could we also put in a link to the QGIS hub
>> page and to where our links to the users groups are so that sorta provides
>> some 'support'.
>>
>> Sorta off topic:
>>
>> I recently got contacted by someone letting me know they donated so they
>> could get support - they thought I was the help desk for QGIS...Maybe this
>> is an indication of some UX/UI is required to send people to our support
>> pages???
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Em
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 01:07, Nick Bearman via QGIS-Developer <
>> qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for highlighting this Andreas.
>>
>> If I might suggest a tweak to the popup layout:
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Your freshly baked copy of QGIS is downloading. (Make this line bold and
>> add a paragraph before the next bit)
>>
>> QGIS is free of charge, and will always be free of charge if downloaded
>> from QGIS.org. (and another break here)
>>
>> If you can afford to support the project and people making this software,
>> please consider making a small donation to support our efforts. Whether you
>> choose to donate or not, we hope that you enjoy using our labour of love
>> and encourage you to share and spread your downloaded copy far and wide so
>> that others may enjoy it too. Our very best regards!
>>
>> The QGIS Team
>>
>> This might make it a bit more obvious. What do you think?
>>
>> (I will leave those who are more technical than me to discuss download
>> speed issues).
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Nick.
>>
>> On