[Qgis-user] Database manager don't keep primary key when importing vector layer from PostGis to SpatiaLite database
Hi, I am using the Database Manager to import vector layers from a PostGis dabase to a SpatiaLite one. If I check Primary Key option and type the name of an existing field, the values of this field are replaced by serial values. When I import the same way from SpatiaLite to PostGis, existing values are kept as expected. This is quite annoying because SQLite fields can't be modified easily aftwards (name, constraints...). Has anyone had the same problem ? Is it a bug ? Thanks for any hint, -- Christophe ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Field calculator - output layer CRS bug
Hi Dominik, Some days ago Nyall Dawson did some raster calc bug fixes and improvements. One fix introduces the option to pick a CRS for the output in raster calculator and better deal with NODATA values. See https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/commit/559d7bb943f02660694b37a701d8483106011df1 and http://hub.qgis.org/issues/3649 This will be released with QGIS 2.10 at the end of June. I hope this addresses your problem. Andreas On 12.06.2015 02:19, Dominik Abrahám wrote: Hi, when I use the field calculator through the graphical modeler, the output layer hasn't assigned CRS. Any other algorithm, which I tried, applied CRS from input layer.Why field calculator doesn't work as well? Thanks for any advice Dominik ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
[Qgis-user] GEarthView
Hi I tried to install GEarthView on QGIS 2.2 and get the next message The plugin is broken. Python said: *No module named zope.interface* Can anybody help? I am using QGIS 2.2 Valmiera because when I install the newer versions the plugins for GRASS, SAGA do not work. Thank you Strumberger ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Local Government for QGIS
Hi Steve, Thank you for raising this important discussion. In some European countries the situation is a bit different and Open Source solutions are gaining an increasing market share. I live and work in Switzerland - and while the majority of the markets still uses ESRI products - there is an increasing number of provinces who also increasingly use Postgis, QGIS, OpenLayers, etc - sometimes exclusively and sometimes side by side with proprietary software. I also think that the next couple of years we will see an increasing number of governmental organisations introducing OpenSource GIS side by side with commercial GIS and will gradually shift more and more applications to FOSSGIS. Some examples in Switzerland: * The national mapping portal runs exclusively on OS software (Postgis, OpenLayers, and some more) - it runs very well, fast and is very popular - production of the data is still done exclusively in ESRI * 2 provinces in Switzerland run exclusively in FOSSGIS, about 7 and 8 additional provinces introduced FOSSGIS side by side with commercial products * several cities and water/gaz providers are currently migrating to FOSSGIS to document utility networks * The austrian province Vorarlberg introduced several hundred installations of QGIS as the main GIS in their administration * several Scandinavian countries/provinces/cities are already using FOSSGIS on both Desktop GIS and web mapping The list would be much longer - but things are moving slowly and steadily to more FOSSGIS usage in Europe - at least I can tell There are two other interesting points: * in my opinion - it is not so much about money - but about different values: the ability to more easily influence the direction of the software, support of open standards, integration with other FOSS software, etc. * as an employee of a local government it is so much more interesting being able to actively contribute to FOSS software rather than just using software as is. As you can see above - it is more the richer countries that are moving towards Open Source and fewer poorer countries. This indicates that the factor cost is less important than people think. Andreas On 11.06.2015 22:28, Steve G wrote: I am not sure this is the correct forum for a start to this discussion, but I've been pondering this for a while and interested what others think. I work for local government in the U.S. and when people generally talk about GIS there is no doubt an automatic association with the ESRI ArcGIS platform. And beyond GIS itself, the dominance that ESRI has is even more pronounced given the fact that many cities have implemented other related systems (permitting, computer aided dispatch, etc) that are identified business partners with ESRI. Furthermore, the GIS Local Government track that ESRI developed has evolved to offer an turnkey approach for local government self-service to establish a robust geodatabase (Local Government Information Model), maps, apps, web services, etc. This extends a COTS approach for local governments to establish, develop, and maintain a fairly complete GIS. In my opinion, pure genius...because for a lot of small cities/governments with limited staff and budget, the turnkey approach is very appealing. For city bureaucrats thinking about implementing/extending GIS, what they might think as little $$$ and you get all of this? Awesome...here's my money. HOWEVER, this approach has its drawbacks. Long-term license/use costs, vendor lock-in, continuous waiting for someone at the company to fix somethingwell, the list goes on (just read any blog post supporting open source/FOSS). So, with the evolution of QGIS as a prevailing replacement/alternative for the other product, is anyone thinking about building more of a turnkey approach (database, maps, apps, web services, etc) geared to local governments? I like the direction of the OpenGeo platform (and others) trying to provide the whole software stack, but still if a small local government wants to have a full fledged interactive GIS, it might seem like a lot of work to develop and maintain. I am interested in other thoughts...perhaps this belongs on a blog post somewhere more independent, but perhaps this can be a place to begin. Steve G. -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Local-Government-for-QGIS-tp5210489.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with attribute data
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Sebastian Andersson sebastian_anders...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I want to calculate the share of different population Groups in my attribute table by using the field calculator. I have added a new column in the attribute table and calculated the share of young people, by dividing the number of young people with the total number of people. The new values are added to the new column. However, after saving, the values are lost and the columns show 0. Why? Try 1.0 * young people / total people The problem seems to be integer division which again results in an integer value rather than the desired float value. Best wishes, Anita ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Local Government for QGIS
That is a great summary Falk! I think the GIS community is lacking strategic marketeers and solid branding. I personally tried to take that road once, thinking I was backed by a solid group of open source professionals teamed up in a cooperation. I was wrong. It is my opinion that the businessmodel where one that does the work gets paid and one that invests in relations does so on his own account needs tuning to put open source on the agenda of government descision makers. 2015-06-12 3:56 GMT+02:00 Falk Huettmann fhuettm...@alaska.edu: Dear all, thanks, I find this is a very essential discussion to have, and with QGIS, GDAL/R etc at its core and solution. Much can be said, and should be said and changed, but here a few points for a start: -mapping relates to land, health and water management questions; many of these are widely unresolved nor do many people really want it to be resolved even. -mapping is, and remains, a highly strategic and military topic. -mapping affects economic growth and our neoliberal economy policy. Software is directly embedded in that; now all driven by online developments and its drivers. -mapping and its tools and data are part of democracy. Thus, a (tried) control of mapping, its data, and its tools, must come of no big surprise. It's a heavily vested subject. (one can add easily remote sensing perspectives in that discussion, and one really should). These things are not new, apply globally, and are part of any good Geography textbook really. I would go that far and put it as a major topic for Climate Change! So I think the current status of GIS governments and its inertia can widely be derived from there. We have much experience in that, world-wide (happy to share if somebody wants to know; just ask...). What about a good set of GIS and Remote Sensing ETHICS ? Yes, I find it's time things change for the better. Keep me posted please. Very best and thanks Falk Huettmann On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Steve G stevenlgol...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure this is the correct forum for a start to this discussion, but I've been pondering this for a while and interested what others think. I work for local government in the U.S. and when people generally talk about GIS there is no doubt an automatic association with the ESRI ArcGIS platform. And beyond GIS itself, the dominance that ESRI has is even more pronounced given the fact that many cities have implemented other related systems (permitting, computer aided dispatch, etc) that are identified business partners with ESRI. Furthermore, the GIS Local Government track that ESRI developed has evolved to offer an turnkey approach for local government self-service to establish a robust geodatabase (Local Government Information Model), maps, apps, web services, etc. This extends a COTS approach for local governments to establish, develop, and maintain a fairly complete GIS. In my opinion, pure genius...because for a lot of small cities/governments with limited staff and budget, the turnkey approach is very appealing. For city bureaucrats thinking about implementing/extending GIS, what they might think as little $$$ and you get all of this? Awesome...here's my money. HOWEVER, this approach has its drawbacks. Long-term license/use costs, vendor lock-in, continuous waiting for someone at the company to fix somethingwell, the list goes on (just read any blog post supporting open source/FOSS). So, with the evolution of QGIS as a prevailing replacement/alternative for the other product, is anyone thinking about building more of a turnkey approach (database, maps, apps, web services, etc) geared to local governments? I like the direction of the OpenGeo platform (and others) trying to provide the whole software stack, but still if a small local government wants to have a full fledged interactive GIS, it might seem like a lot of work to develop and maintain. I am interested in other thoughts...perhaps this belongs on a blog post somewhere more independent, but perhaps this can be a place to begin. Steve G. -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Local-Government-for-QGIS-tp5210489.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- [image: http://www.dogodigi.net] http://www.dogodigi.net *Milo van der Linden* web: dogodigi http://www.dogodigi.net tel: +31-6-16598808 ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Local Government for QGIS
Hi, it is strange and in some way comforting that on the other side of earth there are local government employees asked to do more with less resources :) In Italy, where I was a consultant for a local government, things are slowly but constantly (in my view) changing toward an increase of FOSS softwares (QGIS above all), mainly due to this long-lasting economical crisis, but confirmed by the ability to hold the comparison with all the proprietary softwares. My two cents here, when you say We are open minded enough to examine the alternatives as they present themselves and take advantage of opportunities as they arise, is to increase your involvement in QGIS project, because it has the maturity to be a perfect substitute of arc-map-copyrighted-proprietary-things. Please don't dissipate (too much!) your energies and resources in small and local alternative projects, but keep building the greatest alternative that people can freely choose. Jacopo 2015-06-12 3:49 GMT+02:00 Johanna Botman johanna.bot...@griffith.nsw.gov.au : I, too, work for local government - in New South Wales (Australia). We were an exclusively MapInfo shop until I came along. Not that I can claim the move to QGIS ... but adding me to the staff meant that the opportunity was there to explore open source software and how it would fit into Council's IT and GIS. There are hiccups, of course, but I find QGIS to be as robust as MapInfo, sometimes better and sometimes not as good. I think, though, that this can be said of any software comparisons. Our reasons for changing were as the OP described - an unwillingness to be locked into proprietary formats and expensive licensing agreements. We may not be on QGIS forever, either. We are open minded enough to examine the alternatives as they present themselves and take advantage of opportunities as they arise. While we are being asked to do more with less resources, we see this as the most appropriate course at this time. We have the support of consultants who know and understand QGIS and who are partners with enterprises who fund and develop changes and improvements with QGIS. And personally, I have found the help and support available through this mail list to be invaluable. Through this mail list I have been able to deal directly with the developer of a particular component of QGIS and had it fixed in the nightly build. ___ Johanna Botman GIS / Assets Officer Griffith City Council Ph: 02 6962 8168 -- This e-mail, together with any attachments, is for the exclusive and confidential use of the addressee(s). Confidentiality is not waived if you are not the intended recipient. Any other distribution, use of, or reproduction without prior written consent is strictly prohibited. Views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual, except where specifically stated otherwise. If this e-mail has been sent to you in error, please delete the e-mail completely and immediately from your system. Although reasonable precautions are taken, Griffith City Council does not warrant or guarantee this message to be free of errors, interference, viruses or similar malicious code and does not accept liability for any consequences to the recipient opening or using this email or attachments. This email was scanned and cleared by MailMarshal, Sophos Kaspersky AV -- ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- FaunaViva V.le Sarca 78 - 20125 Milano Tel: 02 36 59 15 61 Fax: 02 36 59 17 21 Mobile: 331 61 75 136 Email: j.tone...@faunaviva.it postacertific...@pec.studiofaunaviva.it www.faunaviva.it www.studiofaunaviva.it ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
[Qgis-user] Problems with attribute data
Hello, I want to calculate the share of different population Groups in my attribute table by using the field calculator. I have added a new column in the attribute table and calculated the share of young people, by dividing the number of young people with the total number of people. The new values are added to the new column. However, after saving, the values are lost and the columns show 0. Why? Note: This problem only emerges when Dividing values, not when making additions (for example young people + old people). Sebastian ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Local Government for QGIS
Here in the UK there is a growing momentum in the move towards using FOSS/FOSS4G (QGIS / Geoserver / MapServer / PostgreSQL / PostGIS / OpenLayers / Leaflet / etc / etc) in local government (and central government too). This is being driven by a number of factors - open formats/standards vs proprietary lock-in, flexibility vs more static processes, robustness/reliability/speed of development vs more static release schedules. Cost plays a small part. There is also a (small) pool of companies starting to offer support services for desktop and web GIS, open source databases, and consultancy specialising in FOSS4G. Some of these companies also offer enterprise solutions (intranet and internet mapping, database backend, web services, back-office integration) based on a full FOSS4G stack. As for paying for all this - the subscription model is gaining in popularity as more and more is being offered in the cloud as a remotely hosted and managed service. If you want some examples of solutions and offerings being made here have a look at: * https://astuntechnology.com/ * http://www.thinkwhere.com * http://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk/ * https://www.esdm.co.uk/ * https://www.digitalmarketplace.service.gov.uk/search?lot=saasshowSubcategories=true (search GIS or mapping) Cheers Ross -Original Message- From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Steve G Sent: 11 June 2015 21:29 To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [Qgis-user] Local Government for QGIS I am not sure this is the correct forum for a start to this discussion, but I've been pondering this for a while and interested what others think. I work for local government in the U.S. and when people generally talk about GIS there is no doubt an automatic association with the ESRI ArcGIS platform. And beyond GIS itself, the dominance that ESRI has is even more pronounced given the fact that many cities have implemented other related systems (permitting, computer aided dispatch, etc) that are identified business partners with ESRI. Furthermore, the GIS Local Government track that ESRI developed has evolved to offer an turnkey approach for local government self-service to establish a robust geodatabase (Local Government Information Model), maps, apps, web services, etc. This extends a COTS approach for local governments to establish, develop, and maintain a fairly complete GIS. In my opinion, pure genius...because for a lot of small cities/governments with limited staff and budget, the turnkey approach is very appealing. For city bureaucrats thinking about implementing/extending GIS, what they might think as little $$$ and you get all of this? Awesome...here's my money. HOWEVER, this approach has its drawbacks. Long-term license/use costs, vendor lock-in, continuous waiting for someone at the company to fix somethingwell, the list goes on (just read any blog post supporting open source/FOSS). So, with the evolution of QGIS as a prevailing replacement/alternative for the other product, is anyone thinking about building more of a turnkey approach (database, maps, apps, web services, etc) geared to local governments? I like the direction of the OpenGeo platform (and others) trying to provide the whole software stack, but still if a small local government wants to have a full fledged interactive GIS, it might seem like a lot of work to develop and maintain. I am interested in other thoughts...perhaps this belongs on a blog post somewhere more independent, but perhaps this can be a place to begin. Steve G. -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Local-Government-for-QGIS-tp5210489.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user This message is strictly confidential. If you have received this in error, please inform the sender and remove it from your system. If received in error you may not copy, print, forward or use it or any attachment in any way. This message is not capable of creating a legal contract or a binding representation and does not represent the views of Angus Council. Emails may be monitored for security and network management reasons. Messages containing inappropriate content may be intercepted. Angus Council does not accept any liability for any harm that may be caused to the recipient system or data on it by this message or any attachment. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Field calculator - output layer CRS bug
Hi, This is good news!nbsp; Dominik, is your problem with the raster calculator or with the vector field calculator?nbsp; If it's with the raster calculator, you can use gdal warp to fix the problem. Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc. Les Entreprises Arch#233;otec inc.#160; 8548, rue Saint-Denis Montr#233;al H2P 2H2 T#233;l#233;phone:#160;514.381.5112 #160;Fax: 514.381.4995 www.archeotec.ca On Jun 12, 2015 3:16 AM, quot;Andreas Neumann [via OSGeo.org] quot; lt;ml-node+s1560n5210542...@n6.nabble.comgt; wrote: Hi Dominik, Some days ago Nyall Dawson did some raster calc bug fixes and improvements. One fix introduces the option to pick a CRS for the output in raster calculator and better deal with NODATA values. See https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/commit/559d7bb943f02660694b37a701d8483106011df1 and http://hub.qgis.org/issues/3649 This will be released with QGIS 2.10 at the end of June. I hope this addresses your problem. Andreas On 12.06.2015 02:19, Dominik Abrahám wrote: Hi, when I use the field calculator through the graphical modeler, the output layer hasn#39;t assigned CRS. Any other algorithm, which I tried, applied CRS from input layer. Why field calculator doesn#39;t work as well? Thanks for any advice Dominik ___ Qgis-user mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Field-calculator-output-layer-CRS-bug-tp5210512p5210542.html To start a new topic under Quantum GIS - User, email ml-node#43;s1560n4125267h38#64;n6.nabble.com To unsubscribe from Quantum GIS - User, click here . NAML -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Field-calculator-output-layer-CRS-bug-tp5210512p5210589.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Local Government for QGIS
In the states it's all ESRI all day. A few small governments might try to run in a FOSS4G direction but it's rare. In the Southeast they go what is the next town over doing? we will do the same thing. The models that ESRI provide are tempting for many because suddenly everyone is doing the exact same thing. So with no thought - Gov't A can share with Gov't B. They feel as thought they are adhering to a standard - of course a standard put forth by a software company. My business is swinging in a more foss4g direction although I still use ESRI software as many of my customers do - but it's getting rare. So rare I opted to not renew my ESRI licensing this year. Many of my clients are versions back so I can sit on 10.2 for a while. I still get well that free stuff can't be that good but I'm slowly winning over clients as They are getting very good data with qgis/postgis and the word is spreading. Yes it's free but it's very professional. Well - we seem to have started something - question is where do we go next with this? Randy On 06/12/2015 04:34 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote: Hi Steve, Thank you for raising this important discussion. In some European countries the situation is a bit different and Open Source solutions are gaining an increasing market share. I live and work in Switzerland - and while the majority of the markets still uses ESRI products - there is an increasing number of provinces who also increasingly use Postgis, QGIS, OpenLayers, etc - sometimes exclusively and sometimes side by side with proprietary software. I also think that the next couple of years we will see an increasing number of governmental organisations introducing OpenSource GIS side by side with commercial GIS and will gradually shift more and more applications to FOSSGIS. Some examples in Switzerland: * The national mapping portal runs exclusively on OS software (Postgis, OpenLayers, and some more) - it runs very well, fast and is very popular - production of the data is still done exclusively in ESRI * 2 provinces in Switzerland run exclusively in FOSSGIS, about 7 and 8 additional provinces introduced FOSSGIS side by side with commercial products * several cities and water/gaz providers are currently migrating to FOSSGIS to document utility networks * The austrian province Vorarlberg introduced several hundred installations of QGIS as the main GIS in their administration * several Scandinavian countries/provinces/cities are already using FOSSGIS on both Desktop GIS and web mapping The list would be much longer - but things are moving slowly and steadily to more FOSSGIS usage in Europe - at least I can tell There are two other interesting points: * in my opinion - it is not so much about money - but about different values: the ability to more easily influence the direction of the software, support of open standards, integration with other FOSS software, etc. * as an employee of a local government it is so much more interesting being able to actively contribute to FOSS software rather than just using software as is. As you can see above - it is more the richer countries that are moving towards Open Source and fewer poorer countries. This indicates that the factor cost is less important than people think. Andreas On 11.06.2015 22:28, Steve G wrote: I am not sure this is the correct forum for a start to this discussion, but I've been pondering this for a while and interested what others think. I work for local government in the U.S. and when people generally talk about GIS there is no doubt an automatic association with the ESRI ArcGIS platform. And beyond GIS itself, the dominance that ESRI has is even more pronounced given the fact that many cities have implemented other related systems (permitting, computer aided dispatch, etc) that are identified business partners with ESRI. Furthermore, the GIS Local Government track that ESRI developed has evolved to offer an turnkey approach for local government self-service to establish a robust geodatabase (Local Government Information Model), maps, apps, web services, etc. This extends a COTS approach for local governments to establish, develop, and maintain a fairly complete GIS. In my opinion, pure genius...because for a lot of small cities/governments with limited staff and budget, the turnkey approach is very appealing. For city bureaucrats thinking about implementing/extending GIS, what they might think as little $$$ and you get all of this? Awesome...here's my money. HOWEVER, this approach has its drawbacks. Long-term license/use costs, vendor lock-in, continuous waiting for someone at the company to fix somethingwell, the list goes on (just read any blog post supporting open source/FOSS). So, with the evolution of QGIS as a prevailing replacement/alternative for the other product, is anyone thinking about building more of a turnkey approach (database, maps, apps, web services, etc)
[Qgis-user] multiple inputs in graphical modeler
hi all, I'm working on a sequence for the analysis of point data within the graphical model. it includes a split vector layer in the middle and I'm not able to connect it with the next step, leaving me with two half models. is there the possibility to assign all the output vectors coming from the split alg to the next algorithm or shall I keep them separated and use the batch mode for the second step? thank you in advance! all the best, Niccolò ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
[Qgis-user] Install of 2.9 Master on Ubuntu Trusty
So I decided to move my laptop to the nightly builds to help with testing. I removed my ubuntugis repo and packages and went with: deb http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-nightly trusty main deb-src http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-nightly trust main Then updated. But I get: qgis : Depends: libgdal.so.1-1.11.2 but it is not installable Depends: qgis-providers (= 1:2.9.0+git20150612+275194d+20trusty-ubuntugis) but it is not going to be installed Recommends: qgis-plugin-grass but it is not going to be installed Recommends: qgis-plugin-globe but it is not going to be installed Recommends: python-qgis but it is not going to be installed Suggestions? Randy -- Randal Hale North River Geographic Systems, Inc http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com twitter:rjhale http://about.me/rjhale http://www.northrivergeographic.com/introduction-to-quantum-gis ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.8.2 for RHEL/EPEL 7
Hi everyone, I have tried to install QGIS 2.8.2 from the http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=9997800 and I got stuck with dependencies: I started to look after rpm files where are those libraries and they are all over the place. I picked rpm.pbone.net. Initially everything was good until I reached some version conflicts like qt4-core. For this specific I have to choose among: 4.8.6-2, 4.8.5-8, 4.8.5-1 etc. Is any place where those dependencies are or should I continue googling foe each dependency? Thanks, Marian From: Dave Johansen [mailto:davejohan...@gmail.com] Sent: June-10-15 10:55 AM To: rich...@duif.net Cc: qgis-develo...@lists.osgeo.org; Matthias Kuhn; Tudorache, Marian; Alex Mandel; Angelos Tzotsos Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 2.8.2 for RHEL/EPEL 7 On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde rdmaili...@duif.netmailto:rdmaili...@duif.net wrote: On 10-06-15 06:58, Dave Johansen wrote: I just built QGIS 2.8.2 for RHEL/EPEL 7 ( http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=9997800 ) and it is available in the testing repo ( https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/qgis-2.8.2-1.el7 ). I built it without PyQwt because it doesn't support Qwt 6 ( http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2014-December/036112.html ), so I'm sure that some functionality is disabled and/or won't work but the main application is available for testing. Hi Dave et al, Thanks, can you maybe also let us know how you would add this repo, so we can maybe update the instructions? To me it looks like the instructions here: http://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#rhel-centos-scientific-linux are not working anymore for recent versions of RHEL/CentSO, but please correct me if I'm wrong. The instructions to enable use of the EPEL repositories can be found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#How_can_I_install_the_packages_from_the_EPEL_software_repository.3F I'm not sure if we have an official 'maintainer' of QGIS for the RedHat/.rpm based distro's currently. For the sake of the project I think it is good if we have working instructions for rpm based distro's. I'm currently the owner/packager for EPEL 6/7. That's obviously not a QGIS role but a Fedora one. From Alex I understood that Angelos is maintaining a build server, which maybe also able to build rpm's? https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_cross_distribution_howto We should maybe also tell people if is too hard/impossible to install QGIS or QGIS-server on a RHEL/CentOS version (as I understand on RHEL5.5 it's not doable because of a lack of certain Qt libs).. I believe that we could build QGIS 1.8 on RHEL 5 without too much problem. I'm currently only really interested in RHEL 6 and 7, but if there was interest in supporting QGIS 1.8 on RHEL 5, then I would be glad to do that as well. This electronic message, as well as any transmitted files included in the electronic message, may contain privileged or confidential information and is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) or entity to which it is addressed. If you have received this electronic message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the electronic message. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the electronic message is strictly forbidden. NAV CANADA accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus and/or other malicious code transmitted by this electronic communication. Le présent message électronique et tout fichier qui peut y être joint peuvent contenir des renseignements privilégiés ou confidentiels destinés à l’usage exclusif des personnes ou des organismes à qui ils s’adressent. Si vous avez reçu ce message électronique par erreur, veuillez en informer l’expéditeur immédiatement et supprimez le. Toute reproduction, divulgation ou distribution du présent message électronique est strictement interdite. NAV CANADA n’assume aucune responsabilité en cas de dommage causé par tout virus ou autre programme malveillant transmis par ce message électronique. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Install of 2.9 Master on Ubuntu Trusty
I needed to add this line to my sources.list: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu *codename* main Onward and Forward Randal Hale North River Geographic Systems, Inc http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com twitter:rjhale http://about.me/rjhale http://www.northrivergeographic.com/introduction-to-quantum-gis On 06/12/2015 05:12 PM, Randal Hale wrote: So I decided to move my laptop to the nightly builds to help with testing. I removed my ubuntugis repo and packages and went with: deb http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-nightly trusty main deb-src http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-nightly trust main Then updated. But I get: qgis : Depends: libgdal.so.1-1.11.2 but it is not installable Depends: qgis-providers (= 1:2.9.0+git20150612+275194d+20trusty-ubuntugis) but it is not going to be installed Recommends: qgis-plugin-grass but it is not going to be installed Recommends: qgis-plugin-globe but it is not going to be installed Recommends: python-qgis but it is not going to be installed Suggestions? Randy ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
[Qgis-user] New QGIS User Group
We are happy to announce a new QGIS User Group located in Western Washington. The Puget Sound QGIS User Group will provide a place for users of QGIS to s a community of people in thePuget Sound area who share an interest in QGIS and open source gis software. Everyone is welcome, whether you've never used QGIS before or you're a seasoned user or developer. Join our Meetup http://www.meetup.com/Puget-Sound-QGIS-Users-Group/ [1] to learn about upcoming meetings. Clifford Snow [1] http://www.meetup.com/Puget-Sound-QGIS-Users-Group/ -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Prompt for projection when importing raster - QGIS 2.6
My apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but I just had the batch mode raster/ projection/ assign projection delete all the .tif files in my directory, was wondering if anyone had ever figured out this bug. Just lost about 500gb of orthimagery, not the end of the world can get it back but would like to avoid this in the future. These files had .tfm files with coordinates but no projection. In retrospect, I would have just unselected 'ask for CSR' and processed them that way, but just found that out as well. This is on 2.8.2. -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Re-Prompt-for-projection-when-importing-raster-QGIS-2-6-tp5175400p5210746.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Field calculator - output layer CRS bug
oh - sorry. I mixed up raster calculator and field calculator. My fault! Anyway - a number of raster calculator fixes and improvements had been done by Nyall. Is there a ticket already submitted for the field calculator CRS issue? Sorry for the noise, Andreas On 12.06.2015 12:43, Nicolas Cadieux wrote: Hi, This is good news! Dominik, is your problem with the raster calculator or with the vector field calculator? If it's with the raster calculator, you can use gdal warp to fix the problem. Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc. Les Entreprises Archéotec inc. 8548, rue Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2 Téléphone: 514.381.5112 Fax: 514.381.4995 www.archeotec.ca On Jun 12, 2015 3:16 AM, Andreas Neumann [via OSGeo.org] [hidden email] /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=5210589i=0 wrote: Hi Dominik, Some days ago Nyall Dawson did some raster calc bug fixes and improvements. One fix introduces the option to pick a CRS for the output in raster calculator and better deal with NODATA values. See https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/commit/559d7bb943f02660694b37a701d8483106011df1 and http://hub.qgis.org/issues/3649 This will be released with QGIS 2.10 at the end of June. I hope this addresses your problem. Andreas On 12.06.2015 02:19, Dominik Abrahám wrote: Hi, when I use the field calculator through the graphical modeler, the output layer hasn't assigned CRS. Any other algorithm, which I tried, applied CRS from input layer. Why field calculator doesn't work as well? Thanks for any advice Dominik ___ Qgis-user mailing list a href=/user/SendEmail.jtp?type#61;nodeamp;node#61;5210542amp;i#61;0[hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list a href=/user/SendEmail.jtp?type#61;nodeamp;node#61;5210542amp;i#61;1[hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Field-calculator-output-layer-CRS-bug-tp5210512p5210542.html To start a new topic under Quantum GIS - User, email ml-node+s1560n4125267...@n6.nabble.com To unsubscribe from Quantum GIS - User, a href=http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro#61;unsubscribe_by_codeamp;node#61;4125267amp;code#61;bmljb2xhcy5jYWRpZXV4QGFyY2hlb3RlYy5jYXw0MTI1MjY3fDYzNDQ4MjQxNg#61;#61;;click here. a href=http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro#61;macro_vieweramp;id#61;instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.namlamp;base#61;nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespaceamp;breadcrumbs#61;notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml; style=font:9px serifNAML View this message in context: Re: Field calculator - output layer CRS bug http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Field-calculator-output-layer-CRS-bug-tp5210512p5210589.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Quantum-GIS-User-f4125267.html at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Local Government for QGIS
Hello all, Related to topic, I’ve been researching interest in setting up a regional cooperative for local governments around GeoMOOSE (at first) users in my area (upper Midwest, lot’s of GeoMOOSE up here) If I can get an informal group together and get something started as a common roadmap for development, I think that will go far in reaching a lot of the goals that have been suggested here so far. Having some sort of organization that is further reaching than our regional area might be a bit more of a stretch in the near term though, but it’s all likely a good thing in the long run. bobb On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:31 AM, James Keener j...@jimkeener.com wrote: They feel as thought they are adhering to a standard - of course a standard put forth by a software company. A proprietary software company with whom they have no reason to believe their data from now will be accessible in 10 years, let along 50. Yes it's free but it's very professional. A million times, yes. This is a message that's hard to get across. Well - we seem to have started something - question is where do we go next with this? Does the OSGeo group have a local governments sub-group? (I didn't see one, I wonder if there would be interest in creating one. If not, I still think we should create one, and I would be willing to fund the domain, site and forum hosting, mailing lists, c at first.) It seems to be a tech-focused organization and I wonder if they would they would be interested in forming a group dedicated to ... ? What should we be dedicated to? (Also, I'm using F/OSS as a catch all, I realize we might want to trim it to OSG or something else). Main Goal: To increase the usage of F/OSS software by government. I say that with the subtext of legitimizing the use of F/OSS by governments, i.e. show them others who are using it, show them standards they can point to and justify themselves by, and show them that being beholden to software corps isn't the only way to get support. I would suggest the following actions to supporting that goal: * Compiling standards that Governments can (be) point to (endorsing the (OGC standards)[http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards]?) * Compiling software that Governments can (be) pointed to (QGIS, PostGIS, GDAL, c) * Compiling case-studies done with F/OSS * Compiling white papers around using F/OSS * Improve the documentation and tutorials of recommended software * Work towards creating standards as needs arise * Provide a starting point for Governments to network with * Other governments using F/OSS * Vendors of F/OSS-based services (I'd be OK if this was left out, though it could be useful depending on our exact goals) Thoughts? Jim Keener On 06/12/2015 09:11 AM, Randal Hale wrote: In the states it's all ESRI all day. A few small governments might try to run in a FOSS4G direction but it's rare. In the Southeast they go what is the next town over doing? we will do the same thing. The models that ESRI provide are tempting for many because suddenly everyone is doing the exact same thing. So with no thought - Gov't A can share with Gov't B. They feel as thought they are adhering to a standard - of course a standard put forth by a software company. My business is swinging in a more foss4g direction although I still use ESRI software as many of my customers do - but it's getting rare. So rare I opted to not renew my ESRI licensing this year. Many of my clients are versions back so I can sit on 10.2 for a while. I still get well that free stuff can't be that good but I'm slowly winning over clients as They are getting very good data with qgis/postgis and the word is spreading. Yes it's free but it's very professional. Well - we seem to have started something - question is where do we go next with this? Randy On 06/12/2015 04:34 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote: Hi Steve, Thank you for raising this important discussion. In some European countries the situation is a bit different and Open Source solutions are gaining an increasing market share. I live and work in Switzerland - and while the majority of the markets still uses ESRI products - there is an increasing number of provinces who also increasingly use Postgis, QGIS, OpenLayers, etc - sometimes exclusively and sometimes side by side with proprietary software. I also think that the next couple of years we will see an increasing number of governmental organisations introducing OpenSource GIS side by side with commercial GIS and will gradually shift more and more applications to FOSSGIS. Some examples in Switzerland: * The national mapping portal runs exclusively on OS software (Postgis, OpenLayers, and some more) - it runs very well, fast and is very popular - production of the data is still done exclusively in ESRI * 2 provinces in Switzerland run exclusively in FOSSGIS, about 7 and 8 additional provinces introduced
Re: [Qgis-user] Local Government for QGIS
In British Columbia, where I work in mineral exploration (in industry not government) there has been quite a lot of interesting non-ESRI work at the provincial geology and mining level. This is probably not a surprise if you no the history of some of the tools. My experience in our (junior exploration) company has been that we can get a lot more done now with FOSS and that with a little thinking this fits very well with legacy ESRI products. Using Dropbox with a GRASS like directory structure we have been running cross platform on projects on several continents. In other words, the Windows machines are usually running ESRI while the Macs (like me) have been running QGIS. In addition, QGIS has been extending what the ESRI bundles cannot support. Projects are split between management and technical expertise in Canada and fieldwork in Argentina and Ireland. I’m very interested in starting another push for open geological support of drilling and other specific methods that work with QGIS. Not all this is related to government but there is some overlap. The ability to play nicely with ESRI while in transition or at the edges of FOSS is very important to understand when considering options! Cheers, John Harrop On Jun 12, 2015, at 7:31 AM, James Keener j...@jimkeener.com wrote: They feel as thought they are adhering to a standard - of course a standard put forth by a software company. A proprietary software company with whom they have no reason to believe their data from now will be accessible in 10 years, let along 50. Yes it's free but it's very professional. A million times, yes. This is a message that's hard to get across. Well - we seem to have started something - question is where do we go next with this? Does the OSGeo group have a local governments sub-group? (I didn't see one, I wonder if there would be interest in creating one. If not, I still think we should create one, and I would be willing to fund the domain, site and forum hosting, mailing lists, c at first.) It seems to be a tech-focused organization and I wonder if they would they would be interested in forming a group dedicated to ... ? What should we be dedicated to? (Also, I'm using F/OSS as a catch all, I realize we might want to trim it to OSG or something else). Main Goal: To increase the usage of F/OSS software by government. I say that with the subtext of legitimizing the use of F/OSS by governments, i.e. show them others who are using it, show them standards they can point to and justify themselves by, and show them that being beholden to software corps isn't the only way to get support. I would suggest the following actions to supporting that goal: * Compiling standards that Governments can (be) point to (endorsing the (OGC standards)[http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards]?) * Compiling software that Governments can (be) pointed to (QGIS, PostGIS, GDAL, c) * Compiling case-studies done with F/OSS * Compiling white papers around using F/OSS * Improve the documentation and tutorials of recommended software * Work towards creating standards as needs arise * Provide a starting point for Governments to network with * Other governments using F/OSS * Vendors of F/OSS-based services (I'd be OK if this was left out, though it could be useful depending on our exact goals) Thoughts? Jim Keener On 06/12/2015 09:11 AM, Randal Hale wrote: In the states it's all ESRI all day. A few small governments might try to run in a FOSS4G direction but it's rare. In the Southeast they go what is the next town over doing? we will do the same thing. The models that ESRI provide are tempting for many because suddenly everyone is doing the exact same thing. So with no thought - Gov't A can share with Gov't B. They feel as thought they are adhering to a standard - of course a standard put forth by a software company. My business is swinging in a more foss4g direction although I still use ESRI software as many of my customers do - but it's getting rare. So rare I opted to not renew my ESRI licensing this year. Many of my clients are versions back so I can sit on 10.2 for a while. I still get well that free stuff can't be that good but I'm slowly winning over clients as They are getting very good data with qgis/postgis and the word is spreading. Yes it's free but it's very professional. Well - we seem to have started something - question is where do we go next with this? Randy On 06/12/2015 04:34 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote: Hi Steve, Thank you for raising this important discussion. In some European countries the situation is a bit different and Open Source solutions are gaining an increasing market share. I live and work in Switzerland - and while the majority of the markets still uses ESRI products - there is an increasing number of provinces who also increasingly use Postgis, QGIS, OpenLayers, etc - sometimes exclusively and
Re: [Qgis-user] Local Government for QGIS
To All, I am glad to see the discussion and interest in QGIS in local government. I have been interested in QGIS in local government for sometime now. I work for MapForsyth| City-County Geographic Information Office in Forsyth County, North Carolina (USA). We have and use both QGIS and ESRI products (more of ESRI than QGIS). In our case it would be unrealistic to say we could ever be a 100% QGIS (FOSS) shop at this point, but it is our goal to have QGIS integrated with more of our departments and through time we will be able to increase the use of QGIS. I know from my experience, case studies and showing return on investment (ROI) are very important to have and show decision makers. However, let us not for get our IT departments, especially in local government. In our case we partnered with them so they could see, understand, and ask questions regarding QGIS or any open source software we use. I have found that they are becoming some of our best supporters. Some of my other thoughts are support and governance of QGIS installations...best practices etc. Just my two cents, but glad to see the discussion. Cheers, Joseph Sloop On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Randal Hale rjh...@northrivergeographic.com wrote: In the states it's all ESRI all day. A few small governments might try to run in a FOSS4G direction but it's rare. In the Southeast they go what is the next town over doing? we will do the same thing. The models that ESRI provide are tempting for many because suddenly everyone is doing the exact same thing. So with no thought - Gov't A can share with Gov't B. They feel as thought they are adhering to a standard - of course a standard put forth by a software company. My business is swinging in a more foss4g direction although I still use ESRI software as many of my customers do - but it's getting rare. So rare I opted to not renew my ESRI licensing this year. Many of my clients are versions back so I can sit on 10.2 for a while. I still get well that free stuff can't be that good but I'm slowly winning over clients as They are getting very good data with qgis/postgis and the word is spreading. Yes it's free but it's very professional. Well - we seem to have started something - question is where do we go next with this? Randy On 06/12/2015 04:34 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote: Hi Steve, Thank you for raising this important discussion. In some European countries the situation is a bit different and Open Source solutions are gaining an increasing market share. I live and work in Switzerland - and while the majority of the markets still uses ESRI products - there is an increasing number of provinces who also increasingly use Postgis, QGIS, OpenLayers, etc - sometimes exclusively and sometimes side by side with proprietary software. I also think that the next couple of years we will see an increasing number of governmental organisations introducing OpenSource GIS side by side with commercial GIS and will gradually shift more and more applications to FOSSGIS. Some examples in Switzerland: * The national mapping portal runs exclusively on OS software (Postgis, OpenLayers, and some more) - it runs very well, fast and is very popular - production of the data is still done exclusively in ESRI * 2 provinces in Switzerland run exclusively in FOSSGIS, about 7 and 8 additional provinces introduced FOSSGIS side by side with commercial products * several cities and water/gaz providers are currently migrating to FOSSGIS to document utility networks * The austrian province Vorarlberg introduced several hundred installations of QGIS as the main GIS in their administration * several Scandinavian countries/provinces/cities are already using FOSSGIS on both Desktop GIS and web mapping The list would be much longer - but things are moving slowly and steadily to more FOSSGIS usage in Europe - at least I can tell There are two other interesting points: * in my opinion - it is not so much about money - but about different values: the ability to more easily influence the direction of the software, support of open standards, integration with other FOSS software, etc. * as an employee of a local government it is so much more interesting being able to actively contribute to FOSS software rather than just using software as is. As you can see above - it is more the richer countries that are moving towards Open Source and fewer poorer countries. This indicates that the factor cost is less important than people think. Andreas On 11.06.2015 22:28, Steve G wrote: I am not sure this is the correct forum for a start to this discussion, but I've been pondering this for a while and interested what others think. I work for local government in the U.S. and when people generally talk about GIS there is no doubt an automatic association with the ESRI ArcGIS platform. And beyond GIS itself, the dominance that ESRI has is even more pronounced given the fact
Re: [Qgis-user] Local Government for QGIS
They feel as thought they are adhering to a standard - of course a standard put forth by a software company. A proprietary software company with whom they have no reason to believe their data from now will be accessible in 10 years, let along 50. Yes it's free but it's very professional. A million times, yes. This is a message that's hard to get across. Well - we seem to have started something - question is where do we go next with this? Does the OSGeo group have a local governments sub-group? (I didn't see one, I wonder if there would be interest in creating one. If not, I still think we should create one, and I would be willing to fund the domain, site and forum hosting, mailing lists, c at first.) It seems to be a tech-focused organization and I wonder if they would they would be interested in forming a group dedicated to ... ? What should we be dedicated to? (Also, I'm using F/OSS as a catch all, I realize we might want to trim it to OSG or something else). Main Goal: To increase the usage of F/OSS software by government. I say that with the subtext of legitimizing the use of F/OSS by governments, i.e. show them others who are using it, show them standards they can point to and justify themselves by, and show them that being beholden to software corps isn't the only way to get support. I would suggest the following actions to supporting that goal: * Compiling standards that Governments can (be) point to (endorsing the (OGC standards)[http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards]?) * Compiling software that Governments can (be) pointed to (QGIS, PostGIS, GDAL, c) * Compiling case-studies done with F/OSS * Compiling white papers around using F/OSS * Improve the documentation and tutorials of recommended software * Work towards creating standards as needs arise * Provide a starting point for Governments to network with * Other governments using F/OSS * Vendors of F/OSS-based services (I'd be OK if this was left out, though it could be useful depending on our exact goals) Thoughts? Jim Keener On 06/12/2015 09:11 AM, Randal Hale wrote: In the states it's all ESRI all day. A few small governments might try to run in a FOSS4G direction but it's rare. In the Southeast they go what is the next town over doing? we will do the same thing. The models that ESRI provide are tempting for many because suddenly everyone is doing the exact same thing. So with no thought - Gov't A can share with Gov't B. They feel as thought they are adhering to a standard - of course a standard put forth by a software company. My business is swinging in a more foss4g direction although I still use ESRI software as many of my customers do - but it's getting rare. So rare I opted to not renew my ESRI licensing this year. Many of my clients are versions back so I can sit on 10.2 for a while. I still get well that free stuff can't be that good but I'm slowly winning over clients as They are getting very good data with qgis/postgis and the word is spreading. Yes it's free but it's very professional. Well - we seem to have started something - question is where do we go next with this? Randy On 06/12/2015 04:34 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote: Hi Steve, Thank you for raising this important discussion. In some European countries the situation is a bit different and Open Source solutions are gaining an increasing market share. I live and work in Switzerland - and while the majority of the markets still uses ESRI products - there is an increasing number of provinces who also increasingly use Postgis, QGIS, OpenLayers, etc - sometimes exclusively and sometimes side by side with proprietary software. I also think that the next couple of years we will see an increasing number of governmental organisations introducing OpenSource GIS side by side with commercial GIS and will gradually shift more and more applications to FOSSGIS. Some examples in Switzerland: * The national mapping portal runs exclusively on OS software (Postgis, OpenLayers, and some more) - it runs very well, fast and is very popular - production of the data is still done exclusively in ESRI * 2 provinces in Switzerland run exclusively in FOSSGIS, about 7 and 8 additional provinces introduced FOSSGIS side by side with commercial products * several cities and water/gaz providers are currently migrating to FOSSGIS to document utility networks * The austrian province Vorarlberg introduced several hundred installations of QGIS as the main GIS in their administration * several Scandinavian countries/provinces/cities are already using FOSSGIS on both Desktop GIS and web mapping The list would be much longer - but things are moving slowly and steadily to more FOSSGIS usage in Europe - at least I can tell There are two other interesting points: * in my opinion - it is not so much about money - but about different values: the ability to more easily influence the direction of the software, support of