[Qgis-user] Geotiff from Google Network planner to QGIS

2024-02-26 Thread krishna Ayyala via QGIS-User
Hello,
This is the image from Google network planner (GNP) for best server.
Whenever I click anywhere on the image, the device information is
displayed as shown in red circle.

[image: image.png]


I exported this image to geotiff from GNP. Then added it to QGIS, I am not
getting the device information, I am only getting the RGB values as shown
below. What should I do to display the device information in QGIS?

[image: image.png]
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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS through conda on Linux

2024-02-26 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User

Hi Hannes,

ocl-icd-system  indeed did the trick :)

Will now investigate the other traps that my lie around.

See you then ;)

Bernd
Am 26.02.24 um 17:21 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):
I haven't tested OpenCL in a conda QGIS myself but assumed that the 
instructions would work (have working OpenCL on the host, then install 
the ocl-icd-system in the conda environment where you want to use it).


A quick test on a AMD Ryzen laptop just failed but even non-conda QGIS 
did not pick up OpenCL support on it. :\


I hope this isn't a dead end. Sorry for not keeping your goal with 
OpenCL support in mind when suggesting this initially!


On 26.02.24 15:32, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

S,

I thought to share my steps so far, so I will not have to ask again in 
some weeks ;)


terminal:
$ curl -L -O 
"https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge/releases/latest/download/Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname -m).sh"

bash Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname -m).sh

was asked to deactivate the base environment and confirmed, but 
somehow this did not happen, so:


$ conda config --set auto_activate_base false

$ conda create --name qgis_3.34

then I got warned that there is a newer version of conda (strange, why 
isn't the new version installed right away?).

So done as told:

$ conda update -n base -c conda-forge conda

$ conda activate qgis_3.34

conda install qgis=3.34

stuff is installed, but again the warning to update

finally:
WARNING: No ICDs were found. Either,
- Install a conda package providing a OpenCL implementation (pocl, 
oclgrind, intel-compute-runtime, beignet) or
- Make your system-wide implementation visible by installing 
ocl-icd-system conda package.


That stuff is exactly what I was messing around with for the past week 
to get the graphics card support in QGIS. Gnrrr...!


So, what to do now? I feel like panicking ... ;)





Am 26.02.24 um 14:21 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):
Don't feel dumb, it is all written and spread out in super 
complicated ways but once running, it's alright-ish.


Normal Miniforge3 should be fine unless you know you want pypy.
Unless you know differently, try the "Miniforge3-Linux-x86_64" version.
Mamba is something hidden in the background, for you it will pretend 
to be Conda. Conda is the original project, mamba is a faster, 
compatible alternative.
Miniforge is something that comes with mamba "as conda" and 
automatically uses the big "conda-forge" repository where lots of 
software and libraries are available, packaged by the community.


You can use the command lines from 
https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge?tab=readme-ov-file#install


After installation I recommend: $ conda config --set 
auto_activate_base false
Otherwise every terminal/shell session will run using a conda 
environment instead of your standard system environment.


Once installed, you can use the "create" line from other previous 
mail to install a QGIS environment. Then "conda activate qgis_3.34" 
to activate it in a terminal session, "qgis" in that same terminal to 
launch that QGIS and just close the terminal or enter "conda 
deactivate" to deactivate it again.


Cheers, Hannes


On 26.02.24 13:41, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi Hannes,

Thanks for you answer. I played around before with those snakes and 
that's what maybe brought me into trouble.


And again, this zoo of species starts to confuse me, starting with 
the installer:

Miniforge3 or Miniforge-pypy3 ?
And when does the mamba come into play instead of the conda?

Sorry for me playing the dumb, but I almost spent a week trying to 
get things back to normal here at my desk.


Cheers,
Bernd

Am 26.02.24 um 12:35 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):

Hi Bernd,

a pragmatic solution which I have grown to like is using conda 
environments. Using mamba instead of the default conda via 
https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge to reduce annoyances and 
then it is for example a simple "conda --create qgis_3.34 
qgis=3.34" to get a nicely isolated QGIS 3.34 with pdal etc.


Just make sure to deactivate the base environment in your 
terminal/shell, otherwise you are trading one potential mess for 
another ;)


Cheers, Hannes

On 26.02.24 12:10, Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User wrote:

Hi,
using QGIS on the "normal" ubuntu-based Linux Mint for years, I 
again managed to render my system unusable by playing around too 
much, resulting in ever crashing QGIS so I even had to reactivate 
a Windows Virtual Box to be able to work!!


After a hell of problems with NVIDIA graphics drivers (opencl 
support in QGIS), I finally managed to get everything to work with 
Linux Mint Debian edition ... but now had to learn that Debian 
does not provide PDAL for point cloud stuff in the repositories.


Long story short: Can anyone give me recommendations how to get 
PDAL working with QGIS that do NOT include building PDAL and QGIS 
by myself?

Though I USE Linux for over 15 years,I would prefer avoiding that.
Fumbling around with too less insight on what I am 

Re: [Qgis-user] launch error after recent updates

2024-02-26 Thread Don Harter via QGIS-User

I ran this on one of my terminals.

echo $DISPLAY
:0

Try to set the DISPLAY parameter to ":0".  That is a parameter that the 
X11 system uses.
You can try using the export or declare -x command.  If it works you can 
add that to your .bashrc file.

But it seems like it should be set.
On 2/26/24 7:43 AM, A B via QGIS-User wrote:


I've been running QGIS on a Chromebook for a few years.

After the recent updates, it's no longer launching for me, which has 
never been a problem before.


Trying to launch QGIS from the command line gives me the following 
response:


QGIS starting in non-interactive mode not supported.
You are seeing this message most likely because you have no DISPLAY 
environment variable set.



Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to rectify this issue so 
that I can resume running QGIS?  Again, this was never an issue prior 
to the updates over the past few days.


Thanks!

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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS through conda on Linux

2024-02-26 Thread WhereGroup
I haven't tested OpenCL in a conda QGIS myself but assumed that the 
instructions would work (have working OpenCL on the host, then install 
the ocl-icd-system in the conda environment where you want to use it).


A quick test on a AMD Ryzen laptop just failed but even non-conda QGIS 
did not pick up OpenCL support on it. :\


I hope this isn't a dead end. Sorry for not keeping your goal with 
OpenCL support in mind when suggesting this initially!


On 26.02.24 15:32, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

S,

I thought to share my steps so far, so I will not have to ask again in 
some weeks ;)


terminal:
$ curl -L -O 
"https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge/releases/latest/download/Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname 
-m).sh"

bash Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname -m).sh

was asked to deactivate the base environment and confirmed, but 
somehow this did not happen, so:


$ conda config --set auto_activate_base false

$ conda create --name qgis_3.34

then I got warned that there is a newer version of conda (strange, why 
isn't the new version installed right away?).

So done as told:

$ conda update -n base -c conda-forge conda

$ conda activate qgis_3.34

conda install qgis=3.34

stuff is installed, but again the warning to update

finally:
WARNING: No ICDs were found. Either,
- Install a conda package providing a OpenCL implementation (pocl, 
oclgrind, intel-compute-runtime, beignet) or
- Make your system-wide implementation visible by installing 
ocl-icd-system conda package.


That stuff is exactly what I was messing around with for the past week 
to get the graphics card support in QGIS. Gnrrr...!


So, what to do now? I feel like panicking ... ;)





Am 26.02.24 um 14:21 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):
Don't feel dumb, it is all written and spread out in super 
complicated ways but once running, it's alright-ish.


Normal Miniforge3 should be fine unless you know you want pypy.
Unless you know differently, try the "Miniforge3-Linux-x86_64" version.
Mamba is something hidden in the background, for you it will pretend 
to be Conda. Conda is the original project, mamba is a faster, 
compatible alternative.
Miniforge is something that comes with mamba "as conda" and 
automatically uses the big "conda-forge" repository where lots of 
software and libraries are available, packaged by the community.


You can use the command lines from 
https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge?tab=readme-ov-file#install


After installation I recommend: $ conda config --set 
auto_activate_base false
Otherwise every terminal/shell session will run using a conda 
environment instead of your standard system environment.


Once installed, you can use the "create" line from other previous 
mail to install a QGIS environment. Then "conda activate qgis_3.34" 
to activate it in a terminal session, "qgis" in that same terminal to 
launch that QGIS and just close the terminal or enter "conda 
deactivate" to deactivate it again.


Cheers, Hannes


On 26.02.24 13:41, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi Hannes,

Thanks for you answer. I played around before with those snakes and 
that's what maybe brought me into trouble.


And again, this zoo of species starts to confuse me, starting with 
the installer:

Miniforge3 or Miniforge-pypy3 ?
And when does the mamba come into play instead of the conda?

Sorry for me playing the dumb, but I almost spent a week trying to 
get things back to normal here at my desk.


Cheers,
Bernd

Am 26.02.24 um 12:35 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):

Hi Bernd,

a pragmatic solution which I have grown to like is using conda 
environments. Using mamba instead of the default conda via 
https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge to reduce annoyances and 
then it is for example a simple "conda --create qgis_3.34 
qgis=3.34" to get a nicely isolated QGIS 3.34 with pdal etc.


Just make sure to deactivate the base environment in your 
terminal/shell, otherwise you are trading one potential mess for 
another ;)


Cheers, Hannes

On 26.02.24 12:10, Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User wrote:

Hi,
using QGIS on the "normal" ubuntu-based Linux Mint for years, I 
again managed to render my system unusable by playing around too 
much, resulting in ever crashing QGIS so I even had to reactivate 
a Windows Virtual Box to be able to work!!


After a hell of problems with NVIDIA graphics drivers (opencl 
support in QGIS), I finally managed to get everything to work with 
Linux Mint Debian edition ... but now had to learn that Debian 
does not provide PDAL for point cloud stuff in the repositories.


Long story short: Can anyone give me recommendations how to get 
PDAL working with QGIS that do NOT include building PDAL and QGIS 
by myself?

Though I USE Linux for over 15 years,I would prefer avoiding that.
Fumbling around with too less insight on what I am actually doing 
just led me here...


Cheers,
Bernd





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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS through conda on Linux

2024-02-26 Thread Christian Naujoks via QGIS-User


Alternatively, Micromamba can be used. Micromamba is really fast:
https://waylonwalker.com/install-micromamba/


micromamba search qgis -y -c conda-forge
micromamba create -n aqgis qgis pcraster -y -c conda-forge

micromamba run -n aqgis qgis

micromamba activate aqgis
micromamba list
qgis

micromamba update
micromamba update qgis
qgis

micromamba deactivate

#Caution, this will delete the envirement aqqgis:
micromamba env remove --name aqgis


Greetings
Christian

Am Montag, dem 26.02.2024 um 09:38 -0500 schrieb Randal Hale via QGIS-
User:
> So at this point your environment should be active - type qgis in the
> terminal and it should start.
> 
> I ignore the ICD warning. I think at some point I actually installed 
> something to make it go away but it doesn't stop qgis from working.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> On 2/26/24 09:32, Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User wrote:
> > S,
> > 
> > I thought to share my steps so far, so I will not have to ask again
> > in 
> > some weeks ;)
> > 
> > terminal:
> > $ curl -L -O 
> > "https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge/releases/latest/download/Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname
> >  
> > -m).sh"
> > bash Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname -m).sh
> > 
> > was asked to deactivate the base environment and confirmed, but 
> > somehow this did not happen, so:
> > 
> > $ conda config --set auto_activate_base false
> > 
> > $ conda create --name qgis_3.34
> > 
> > then I got warned that there is a newer version of conda (strange,
> > why 
> > isn't the new version installed right away?).
> > So done as told:
> > 
> > $ conda update -n base -c conda-forge conda
> > 
> > $ conda activate qgis_3.34
> > 
> > conda install qgis=3.34
> > 
> > stuff is installed, but again the warning to update
> > 
> > finally:
> > WARNING: No ICDs were found. Either,
> > - Install a conda package providing a OpenCL implementation (pocl, 
> > oclgrind, intel-compute-runtime, beignet) or
> > - Make your system-wide implementation visible by installing 
> > ocl-icd-system conda package.
> > 
> > That stuff is exactly what I was messing around with for the past
> > week 
> > to get the graphics card support in QGIS. Gnrrr...!
> > 
> > So, what to do now? I feel like panicking ... ;)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Am 26.02.24 um 14:21 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):
> > > Don't feel dumb, it is all written and spread out in super 
> > > complicated ways but once running, it's alright-ish.
> > > 
> > > Normal Miniforge3 should be fine unless you know you want pypy.
> > > Unless you know differently, try the "Miniforge3-Linux-x86_64"
> > > version.
> > > Mamba is something hidden in the background, for you it will
> > > pretend 
> > > to be Conda. Conda is the original project, mamba is a faster, 
> > > compatible alternative.
> > > Miniforge is something that comes with mamba "as conda" and 
> > > automatically uses the big "conda-forge" repository where lots of
> > > software and libraries are available, packaged by the community.
> > > 
> > > You can use the command lines from 
> > > https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge?tab=readme-ov-file#install
> > > 
> > > After installation I recommend: $ conda config --set 
> > > auto_activate_base false
> > > Otherwise every terminal/shell session will run using a conda 
> > > environment instead of your standard system environment.
> > > 
> > > Once installed, you can use the "create" line from other previous
> > > mail to install a QGIS environment. Then "conda activate
> > > qgis_3.34" 
> > > to activate it in a terminal session, "qgis" in that same
> > > terminal to 
> > > launch that QGIS and just close the terminal or enter "conda 
> > > deactivate" to deactivate it again.
> > > 
> > > Cheers, Hannes
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 26.02.24 13:41, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
> > > > Hi Hannes,
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for you answer. I played around before with those snakes
> > > > and 
> > > > that's what maybe brought me into trouble.
> > > > 
> > > > And again, this zoo of species starts to confuse me, starting
> > > > with 
> > > > the installer:
> > > > Miniforge3 or Miniforge-pypy3 ?
> > > > And when does the mamba come into play instead of the conda?
> > > > 
> > > > Sorry for me playing the dumb, but I almost spent a week trying
> > > > to 
> > > > get things back to normal here at my desk.
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Bernd
> > > > 
> > > > Am 26.02.24 um 12:35 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):
> > > > > Hi Bernd,
> > > > > 
> > > > > a pragmatic solution which I have grown to like is using
> > > > > conda 
> > > > > environments. Using mamba instead of the default conda via 
> > > > > https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge to reduce annoyances
> > > > > and 
> > > > > then it is for example a simple "conda --create qgis_3.34 
> > > > > qgis=3.34" to get a nicely isolated QGIS 3.34 with pdal etc.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Just make sure to deactivate the base environment in your 
> > > > > terminal/shell, otherwise you are trading one potential mess
> > > > > 

Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS through conda on Linux

2024-02-26 Thread Randal Hale via QGIS-User
So at this point your environment should be active - type qgis in the 
terminal and it should start.


I ignore the ICD warning. I think at some point I actually installed 
something to make it go away but it doesn't stop qgis from working.


Randy


On 2/26/24 09:32, Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User wrote:

S,

I thought to share my steps so far, so I will not have to ask again in 
some weeks ;)


terminal:
$ curl -L -O 
"https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge/releases/latest/download/Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname 
-m).sh"

bash Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname -m).sh

was asked to deactivate the base environment and confirmed, but 
somehow this did not happen, so:


$ conda config --set auto_activate_base false

$ conda create --name qgis_3.34

then I got warned that there is a newer version of conda (strange, why 
isn't the new version installed right away?).

So done as told:

$ conda update -n base -c conda-forge conda

$ conda activate qgis_3.34

conda install qgis=3.34

stuff is installed, but again the warning to update

finally:
WARNING: No ICDs were found. Either,
- Install a conda package providing a OpenCL implementation (pocl, 
oclgrind, intel-compute-runtime, beignet) or
- Make your system-wide implementation visible by installing 
ocl-icd-system conda package.


That stuff is exactly what I was messing around with for the past week 
to get the graphics card support in QGIS. Gnrrr...!


So, what to do now? I feel like panicking ... ;)





Am 26.02.24 um 14:21 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):
Don't feel dumb, it is all written and spread out in super 
complicated ways but once running, it's alright-ish.


Normal Miniforge3 should be fine unless you know you want pypy.
Unless you know differently, try the "Miniforge3-Linux-x86_64" version.
Mamba is something hidden in the background, for you it will pretend 
to be Conda. Conda is the original project, mamba is a faster, 
compatible alternative.
Miniforge is something that comes with mamba "as conda" and 
automatically uses the big "conda-forge" repository where lots of 
software and libraries are available, packaged by the community.


You can use the command lines from 
https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge?tab=readme-ov-file#install


After installation I recommend: $ conda config --set 
auto_activate_base false
Otherwise every terminal/shell session will run using a conda 
environment instead of your standard system environment.


Once installed, you can use the "create" line from other previous 
mail to install a QGIS environment. Then "conda activate qgis_3.34" 
to activate it in a terminal session, "qgis" in that same terminal to 
launch that QGIS and just close the terminal or enter "conda 
deactivate" to deactivate it again.


Cheers, Hannes


On 26.02.24 13:41, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi Hannes,

Thanks for you answer. I played around before with those snakes and 
that's what maybe brought me into trouble.


And again, this zoo of species starts to confuse me, starting with 
the installer:

Miniforge3 or Miniforge-pypy3 ?
And when does the mamba come into play instead of the conda?

Sorry for me playing the dumb, but I almost spent a week trying to 
get things back to normal here at my desk.


Cheers,
Bernd

Am 26.02.24 um 12:35 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):

Hi Bernd,

a pragmatic solution which I have grown to like is using conda 
environments. Using mamba instead of the default conda via 
https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge to reduce annoyances and 
then it is for example a simple "conda --create qgis_3.34 
qgis=3.34" to get a nicely isolated QGIS 3.34 with pdal etc.


Just make sure to deactivate the base environment in your 
terminal/shell, otherwise you are trading one potential mess for 
another ;)


Cheers, Hannes

On 26.02.24 12:10, Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User wrote:

Hi,
using QGIS on the "normal" ubuntu-based Linux Mint for years, I 
again managed to render my system unusable by playing around too 
much, resulting in ever crashing QGIS so I even had to reactivate 
a Windows Virtual Box to be able to work!!


After a hell of problems with NVIDIA graphics drivers (opencl 
support in QGIS), I finally managed to get everything to work with 
Linux Mint Debian edition ... but now had to learn that Debian 
does not provide PDAL for point cloud stuff in the repositories.


Long story short: Can anyone give me recommendations how to get 
PDAL working with QGIS that do NOT include building PDAL and QGIS 
by myself?

Though I USE Linux for over 15 years,I would prefer avoiding that.
Fumbling around with too less insight on what I am actually doing 
just led me here...


Cheers,
Bernd





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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS through conda on Linux

2024-02-26 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User

S,

I thought to share my steps so far, so I will not have to ask again in 
some weeks ;)


terminal:
$ curl -L -O 
"https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge/releases/latest/download/Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname 
-m).sh"

bash Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname -m).sh

was asked to deactivate the base environment and confirmed, but somehow 
this did not happen, so:


$ conda config --set auto_activate_base false

$ conda create --name qgis_3.34

then I got warned that there is a newer version of conda (strange, why 
isn't the new version installed right away?).

So done as told:

$ conda update -n base -c conda-forge conda

$ conda activate qgis_3.34

conda install qgis=3.34

stuff is installed, but again the warning to update

finally:
WARNING: No ICDs were found. Either, 

- Install a conda package providing a OpenCL implementation (pocl, 
oclgrind, intel-compute-runtime, beignet) or 

- Make your system-wide implementation visible by installing 
ocl-icd-system conda package.


That stuff is exactly what I was messing around with for the past week 
to get the graphics card support in QGIS. Gnrrr...!


So, what to do now? I feel like panicking ... ;)





Am 26.02.24 um 14:21 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):
Don't feel dumb, it is all written and spread out in super complicated 
ways but once running, it's alright-ish.


Normal Miniforge3 should be fine unless you know you want pypy.
Unless you know differently, try the "Miniforge3-Linux-x86_64" version.
Mamba is something hidden in the background, for you it will pretend to 
be Conda. Conda is the original project, mamba is a faster, compatible 
alternative.
Miniforge is something that comes with mamba "as conda" and 
automatically uses the big "conda-forge" repository where lots of 
software and libraries are available, packaged by the community.


You can use the command lines from 
https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge?tab=readme-ov-file#install


After installation I recommend: $ conda config --set auto_activate_base 
false
Otherwise every terminal/shell session will run using a conda 
environment instead of your standard system environment.


Once installed, you can use the "create" line from other previous mail 
to install a QGIS environment. Then "conda activate qgis_3.34" to 
activate it in a terminal session, "qgis" in that same terminal to 
launch that QGIS and just close the terminal or enter "conda deactivate" 
to deactivate it again.


Cheers, Hannes


On 26.02.24 13:41, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi Hannes,

Thanks for you answer. I played around before with those snakes and 
that's what maybe brought me into trouble.


And again, this zoo of species starts to confuse me, starting with the 
installer:

Miniforge3 or Miniforge-pypy3 ?
And when does the mamba come into play instead of the conda?

Sorry for me playing the dumb, but I almost spent a week trying to get 
things back to normal here at my desk.


Cheers,
Bernd

Am 26.02.24 um 12:35 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):

Hi Bernd,

a pragmatic solution which I have grown to like is using conda 
environments. Using mamba instead of the default conda via 
https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge to reduce annoyances and 
then it is for example a simple "conda --create qgis_3.34 qgis=3.34" 
to get a nicely isolated QGIS 3.34 with pdal etc.


Just make sure to deactivate the base environment in your 
terminal/shell, otherwise you are trading one potential mess for 
another ;)


Cheers, Hannes

On 26.02.24 12:10, Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User wrote:

Hi,
using QGIS on the "normal" ubuntu-based Linux Mint for years, I 
again managed to render my system unusable by playing around too 
much, resulting in ever crashing QGIS so I even had to reactivate a 
Windows Virtual Box to be able to work!!


After a hell of problems with NVIDIA graphics drivers (opencl 
support in QGIS), I finally managed to get everything to work with 
Linux Mint Debian edition ... but now had to learn that Debian does 
not provide PDAL for point cloud stuff in the repositories.


Long story short: Can anyone give me recommendations how to get PDAL 
working with QGIS that do NOT include building PDAL and QGIS by myself?

Though I USE Linux for over 15 years,I would prefer avoiding that.
Fumbling around with too less insight on what I am actually doing 
just led me here...


Cheers,
Bernd





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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS through conda on Linux

2024-02-26 Thread WhereGroup
Don't feel dumb, it is all written and spread out in super complicated 
ways but once running, it's alright-ish.


Normal Miniforge3 should be fine unless you know you want pypy.
Unless you know differently, try the "Miniforge3-Linux-x86_64" version.
Mamba is something hidden in the background, for you it will pretend to 
be Conda. Conda is the original project, mamba is a faster, compatible 
alternative.
Miniforge is something that comes with mamba "as conda" and 
automatically uses the big "conda-forge" repository where lots of 
software and libraries are available, packaged by the community.


You can use the command lines from 
https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge?tab=readme-ov-file#install


After installation I recommend: $ conda config --set auto_activate_base 
false
Otherwise every terminal/shell session will run using a conda 
environment instead of your standard system environment.


Once installed, you can use the "create" line from other previous mail 
to install a QGIS environment. Then "conda activate qgis_3.34" to 
activate it in a terminal session, "qgis" in that same terminal to 
launch that QGIS and just close the terminal or enter "conda deactivate" 
to deactivate it again.


Cheers, Hannes


On 26.02.24 13:41, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi Hannes,

Thanks for you answer. I played around before with those snakes and 
that's what maybe brought me into trouble.


And again, this zoo of species starts to confuse me, starting with the 
installer:

Miniforge3 or Miniforge-pypy3 ?
And when does the mamba come into play instead of the conda?

Sorry for me playing the dumb, but I almost spent a week trying to get 
things back to normal here at my desk.


Cheers,
Bernd

Am 26.02.24 um 12:35 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):

Hi Bernd,

a pragmatic solution which I have grown to like is using conda 
environments. Using mamba instead of the default conda via 
https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge to reduce annoyances and 
then it is for example a simple "conda --create qgis_3.34 qgis=3.34" 
to get a nicely isolated QGIS 3.34 with pdal etc.


Just make sure to deactivate the base environment in your 
terminal/shell, otherwise you are trading one potential mess for 
another ;)


Cheers, Hannes

On 26.02.24 12:10, Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User wrote:

Hi,
using QGIS on the "normal" ubuntu-based Linux Mint for years, I 
again managed to render my system unusable by playing around too 
much, resulting in ever crashing QGIS so I even had to reactivate a 
Windows Virtual Box to be able to work!!


After a hell of problems with NVIDIA graphics drivers (opencl 
support in QGIS), I finally managed to get everything to work with 
Linux Mint Debian edition ... but now had to learn that Debian does 
not provide PDAL for point cloud stuff in the repositories.


Long story short: Can anyone give me recommendations how to get PDAL 
working with QGIS that do NOT include building PDAL and QGIS by myself?

Though I USE Linux for over 15 years,I would prefer avoiding that.
Fumbling around with too less insight on what I am actually doing 
just led me here...


Cheers,
Bernd





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[Qgis-user] launch error after recent updates

2024-02-26 Thread A B via QGIS-User

I've been running QGIS on a Chromebook for a few years.
After the recent updates, it's no longer launching for me, which has never been 
a problem before.
Trying to launch QGIS from the command line gives me the following response:
QGIS starting in non-interactive mode not supported.You are seeing this message 
most likely because you have no DISPLAY environment variable set.

Can anyone make any suggestions as to how to rectify this issue so that I can 
resume running QGIS?  Again, this was never an issue prior to the updates over 
the past few days.
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Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS through conda on Linux (was: PDAL on LMDE (Debian) for noobs?)

2024-02-26 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User

Hi Hannes,

Thanks for you answer. I played around before with those snakes and 
that's what maybe brought me into trouble.


And again, this zoo of species starts to confuse me, starting with the 
installer:

Miniforge3 or Miniforge-pypy3 ?
And when does the mamba come into play instead of the conda?

Sorry for me playing the dumb, but I almost spent a week trying to get 
things back to normal here at my desk.


Cheers,
Bernd

Am 26.02.24 um 12:35 schrieb Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup):

Hi Bernd,

a pragmatic solution which I have grown to like is using conda 
environments. Using mamba instead of the default conda via 
https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge to reduce annoyances and then 
it is for example a simple "conda --create qgis_3.34 qgis=3.34" to get a 
nicely isolated QGIS 3.34 with pdal etc.


Just make sure to deactivate the base environment in your 
terminal/shell, otherwise you are trading one potential mess for another ;)


Cheers, Hannes

On 26.02.24 12:10, Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User wrote:

Hi,
using QGIS on the "normal" ubuntu-based Linux Mint for years, I again 
managed to render my system unusable by playing around too much, 
resulting in ever crashing QGIS so I even had to reactivate a Windows 
Virtual Box to be able to work!!


After a hell of problems with NVIDIA graphics drivers (opencl support 
in QGIS), I finally managed to get everything to work with Linux Mint 
Debian edition ... but now had to learn that Debian does not provide 
PDAL for point cloud stuff in the repositories.


Long story short: Can anyone give me recommendations how to get PDAL 
working with QGIS that do NOT include building PDAL and QGIS by myself?

Though I USE Linux for over 15 years,I would prefer avoiding that.
Fumbling around with too less insight on what I am actually doing just 
led me here...


Cheers,
Bernd





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Re: [Qgis-user] PDAL on LMDE (Debian) for noobs?

2024-02-26 Thread WhereGroup

Hi Bernd,

a pragmatic solution which I have grown to like is using conda 
environments. Using mamba instead of the default conda via 
https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge to reduce annoyances and then 
it is for example a simple "conda --create qgis_3.34 qgis=3.34" to get a 
nicely isolated QGIS 3.34 with pdal etc.


Just make sure to deactivate the base environment in your 
terminal/shell, otherwise you are trading one potential mess for another ;)


Cheers, Hannes

On 26.02.24 12:10, Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User wrote:

Hi,
using QGIS on the "normal" ubuntu-based Linux Mint for years, I again 
managed to render my system unusable by playing around too much, 
resulting in ever crashing QGIS so I even had to reactivate a Windows 
Virtual Box to be able to work!!


After a hell of problems with NVIDIA graphics drivers (opencl support 
in QGIS), I finally managed to get everything to work with Linux Mint 
Debian edition ... but now had to learn that Debian does not provide 
PDAL for point cloud stuff in the repositories.


Long story short: Can anyone give me recommendations how to get PDAL 
working with QGIS that do NOT include building PDAL and QGIS by myself?

Though I USE Linux for over 15 years,I would prefer avoiding that.
Fumbling around with too less insight on what I am actually doing just 
led me here...


Cheers,
Bernd





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[Qgis-user] PDAL on LMDE (Debian) for noobs?

2024-02-26 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang via QGIS-User

Hi,
using QGIS on the "normal" ubuntu-based Linux Mint for years, I again 
managed to render my system unusable by playing around too much, 
resulting in ever crashing QGIS so I even had to reactivate a Windows 
Virtual Box to be able to work!!


After a hell of problems with NVIDIA graphics drivers (opencl support in 
QGIS), I finally managed to get everything to work with Linux Mint 
Debian edition ... but now had to learn that Debian does not provide 
PDAL for point cloud stuff in the repositories.


Long story short: Can anyone give me recommendations how to get PDAL 
working with QGIS that do NOT include building PDAL and QGIS by myself?

Though I USE Linux for over 15 years,I would prefer avoiding that.
Fumbling around with too less insight on what I am actually doing just 
led me here...


Cheers,
Bernd




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