Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

[Blumentrath, Stefan]

Hallo Jürgen,

I just tested the qgis-rel-dev with GRASS GIS 7.0.3RC2.
There the plugin is available and the functions which I tested work like a 
charm!

Thanks for fixing this!

Cheers,
Stefan



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Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

Hi Martin,

On Fri, 22. Jan 2016 at 20:54:35 +0100, Martin Landa wrote:
> 2016-01-22 9:23 GMT+01:00 Jürgen E. <j...@norbit.de>:
> > against 7.0.3RC1.   Not sure why the stable grass package is replaces with
> > RCs and whether it's necessary to embed the exact version number in 
> > the file names, but that way it's easy to break GRASS support in QGIS.

> because nobody complained till now ;-) We could change this policy in 
> the sense that RCs will go only to osgeo4w-testing in the future. What 
> do you think?

You mean "test: 7.0.3RC1-1" in setup.hint?  Yes, that would work.
 

Jürgen

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Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Martin,

On Fri, 22. Jan 2016 at 20:54:35 +0100, Martin Landa wrote:
> 2016-01-22 9:23 GMT+01:00 Jürgen E. :
> > against 7.0.3RC1.   Not sure why the stable grass package is replaces with
> > RCs and whether it's necessary to embed the exact version number in the
> > file names, but that way it's easy to break GRASS support in QGIS.

> because nobody complained till now ;-) We could change this policy in the
> sense that RCs will go only to osgeo4w-testing in the future. What do you
> think?

You mean "test: 7.0.3RC1-1" in setup.hint?  Yes, that would work.
 

Jürgen

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Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

[Martin Landa]

Hi,

2016-01-22 9:23 GMT+01:00 Jürgen E. :
> against 7.0.3RC1.   Not sure why the stable grass package is replaces with RCs
> and whether it's necessary to embed the exact version number in the file 
> names,
> but that way it's easy to break GRASS support in QGIS.

because nobody complained till now ;-) We could change this policy in
the sense that RCs will go only to osgeo4w-testing in the future. What
do you think?

Ma

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Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

[Blumentrath, Stefan]

Thanks, I shall test the nightlies and report back!

Cheers
Stefan

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Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

Hi Stefan,

On Thu, 21. Jan 2016 at 22:33:37 +, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote:
> I just tried the 2.12.3 version with the GRASS7-plugin and GRASS 
> 7.0.3RC1 (since the batch-file in the plugin is pointing to that 
> version) in OSGeo4W 32bit.  Unfortunately, GRASS 7 does not seem to be 
> recognized in QGIS:
> mapsets only show up as folders and the plugin is not available...
 
> Any idea what might be the issue here?

Two issues.

Apparently GRASS meanwhile moved on to GRASS 7.0.3RC2 while 2.12.3 was built
against 7.0.3RC1.   Not sure why the stable grass package is replaces with RCs
and whether it's necessary to embed the exact version number in the file names, 
but that way it's easy to break GRASS support in QGIS.

The second issue is that GRASS bin directory also needs to be added to the PATH 
(not sure since when).  That's fixed in 244f83e and 23cdda2.  Please verify 
with one of the next nightlies (qgis-dev or qgis-rel-dev).


Jürgen

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Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Stefan,

On Thu, 21. Jan 2016 at 22:33:37 +, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote:
> I just tried the 2.12.3 version with the GRASS7-plugin and GRASS 7.0.3RC1
> (since the batch-file in the plugin is pointing to that version) in OSGeo4W
> 32bit.  Unfortunately, GRASS 7 does not seem to be recognized in QGIS:
> mapsets only show up as folders and the plugin is not available...
 
> Any idea what might be the issue here?

Two issues.

Apparently GRASS meanwhile moved on to GRASS 7.0.3RC2 while 2.12.3 was built
against 7.0.3RC1.   Not sure why the stable grass package is replaces with RCs
and whether it's necessary to embed the exact version number in the file names,
but that way it's easy to break GRASS support in QGIS.

The second issue is that GRASS bin directory also needs to be added to the PATH
(not sure since when).  That's fixed in 244f83e and 23cdda2.  Please verify
with one of the next nightlies (qgis-dev or qgis-rel-dev).


Jürgen

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Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

[Blumentrath, Stefan]

Hi again,

I just tried the 2.12.3 version with the GRASS7-plugin and GRASS 7.0.3RC1 
(since the batch-file in the plugin is pointing to that version) in OSGeo4W 
32bit.
Unfortunately, GRASS 7 does not seem to be recognized in QGIS: mapsets only 
show up as folders and the plugin is not available...

Any idea what might be the issue here?

Cheers
Stefan


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Sent: 21. desember 2015 16:01
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Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

Hi Stephan,

On Mon, 21. Dec 2015 at 10:46:54 +, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote:
> I was wondering what packages I have to select in order to install the 
> current release of QGIS only with GRASS 7 support (meaning esp. the 
> GRASS 7 plugin), cause I want to avoid confusion of users and mixed up 
> GRASS mapsets (GRASS 6 /GRASS 7)...

The grass 7 plugin is only built in 32bit OSGeo4W - the 64bit version doesn't
have a stable 64bit GRASS 7 package yet - only a daily build.   That's going to
change with 7.0.3 (according to Martin Landa).

> P.S.: The current QGIS standalone installer ships only GRASS 6, so it 
> is no alternative...

Yes.  I didn't want to have GRASS6 and 7 in the standalone installer and as 
said GRASS7 is not available in 64bit yet.


Jürgen

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Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

[Blumentrath, Stefan]

Hi again,

I tried to update my installation, but it seems that the qgis-grass-plugin7 
still is the old (incomplete) one (version 2.12.2-1).
Are there any plans to update the 32bit package soon, or will you update when 
the 64bit version of GRASS 7 becomes available?

Kind regards,
Stefan


> There was no plugin 7 in 2.10 and thus the files were not included in the 
> package. Unfortunately this was forgotten somehow in 2.12. Jef fixed that 
> yesterday in e19ad4be, thanks.

> Radim
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Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Stefan,

On Mon, 28. Dec 2015 at 08:04:25 +, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote:
> I tried to update my installation, but it seems that the qgis-grass-plugin7
> still is the old (incomplete) one (version 2.12.2-1).  Are there any plans to
> update the 32bit package soon, or will you update when the 64bit version of
> GRASS 7 becomes available?

No, the next point release is january 15th - not sure if the grass 7 stable
build of 7.0.3 will be available in 64bit by then.


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Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

[Radim Blazek]

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Blumentrath, Stefan
<stefan.blumentr...@nina.no> wrote:
> Hi Jürgen,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I am aware that the GRASS plugin is not available in 64bit (I am following 
> yours and Martin Landa`s activity in this regards and looking forward to the 
> 7.0.3 release, hopefully in Januar).
>
> I was referring to OSGeo4W 32bit (sorry for not being specific right away). 
> In 32bit the GRASS 6 plugin works fine, the GRASS 7 plugin hower, is 
> unfortunately not available. As mentioned the package(s) seem incomplete 
> (plugin .dlls seem to be missing).
>
> Based on a comparison of the grass6 and grass7 plugin packages, I assume that 
> in the 32bit-package "qgis-grass-plugin7-2.12.2-1.tar.bz2" (but also in the 
> earlier versions of the plugin (e.g. 2.12.1-1 or 2.10.1-2) the following 
> files are missing:
> apps/qgis/plugins/grassplugin7.dll
> apps/qgis/grass/bin/qgis.g.browser7.exe

There was no plugin 7 in 2.10 and thus the files were not included in
the package. Unfortunately this was forgotten somehow in 2.12. Jef
fixed that yesterday in e19ad4be, thanks.

Radim

> Anyway, many, many thanks for your packaging work, which makes the excellent 
> OSGeo tools easily available!
>
> Kind regards,
> Stefan
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of 
> Jürgen E. Fischer
> Sent: 21. desember 2015 16:01
> To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS
>
> Hi Stephan,
>
> On Mon, 21. Dec 2015 at 10:46:54 +, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote:
>> I was wondering what packages I have to select in order to install the
>> current release of QGIS only with GRASS 7 support (meaning esp. the
>> GRASS 7 plugin), cause I want to avoid confusion of users and mixed up
>> GRASS mapsets (GRASS 6 /GRASS 7)...
>
> The grass 7 plugin is only built in 32bit OSGeo4W - the 64bit version doesn't
> have a stable 64bit GRASS 7 package yet - only a daily build.   That's going 
> to
> change with 7.0.3 (according to Martin Landa).
>
>> P.S.: The current QGIS standalone installer ships only GRASS 6, so it
>> is no alternative...
>
> Yes.  I didn't want to have GRASS6 and 7 in the standalone installer and as 
> said GRASS7 is not available in 64bit yet.
>
>
> Jürgen
>
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Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

[Blumentrath, Stefan]

Great! Thanks!

Fröhliche Weihnachten!

Stefan

> Jef fixed that yesterday in e19ad4be, thanks.
> Radim

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Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

[Blumentrath, Stefan]

Hi Jürgen,

Thanks for your reply.

I am aware that the GRASS plugin is not available in 64bit (I am following 
yours and Martin Landa`s activity in this regards and looking forward to the 
7.0.3 release, hopefully in Januar).

I was referring to OSGeo4W 32bit (sorry for not being specific right away). In 
32bit the GRASS 6 plugin works fine, the GRASS 7 plugin hower, is unfortunately 
not available. As mentioned the package(s) seem incomplete (plugin .dlls seem 
to be missing).

Based on a comparison of the grass6 and grass7 plugin packages, I assume that 
in the 32bit-package "qgis-grass-plugin7-2.12.2-1.tar.bz2" (but also in the 
earlier versions of the plugin (e.g. 2.12.1-1 or 2.10.1-2) the following files 
are missing:
apps/qgis/plugins/grassplugin7.dll
apps/qgis/grass/bin/qgis.g.browser7.exe

Anyway, many, many thanks for your packaging work, which makes the excellent 
OSGeo tools easily available!

Kind regards,
Stefan


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From: Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jürgen 
E. Fischer
Sent: 21. desember 2015 16:01
To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

Hi Stephan,

On Mon, 21. Dec 2015 at 10:46:54 +, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote:
> I was wondering what packages I have to select in order to install the 
> current release of QGIS only with GRASS 7 support (meaning esp. the 
> GRASS 7 plugin), cause I want to avoid confusion of users and mixed up 
> GRASS mapsets (GRASS 6 /GRASS 7)...

The grass 7 plugin is only built in 32bit OSGeo4W - the 64bit version doesn't
have a stable 64bit GRASS 7 package yet - only a daily build.   That's going to
change with 7.0.3 (according to Martin Landa).

> P.S.: The current QGIS standalone installer ships only GRASS 6, so it 
> is no alternative...

Yes.  I didn't want to have GRASS6 and 7 in the standalone installer and as 
said GRASS7 is not available in 64bit yet.


Jürgen

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[Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

[Blumentrath, Stefan]

Hi,

I was wondering what packages I have to select in order to install the current 
release of QGIS only with GRASS 7 support (meaning esp. the GRASS 7 plugin), 
cause I want to avoid confusion of users and mixed up GRASS mapsets (GRASS 6 
/GRASS 7)...

I tried to only select qgis, grass, qgis-grass-plugin7 and let the installer 
add the dependencies. But using this approach, I cannot see the GRASS 7 plugin 
in QGIS on windows (the data provider works though...)...

Looking into the qgis-grass-plugin7 package, it seems that equivalents for
apps/qgis/plugins/grassplugin6.dll
apps/qgis/grass/bin/qgis.g.browser6.exe
are missing in the package?

Any Idea? Should I open a ticket in OSGeo4W?

Kind regards
Stefan

P.S.: The current QGIS standalone installer ships only GRASS 6, so it is no 
alternative...

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Re: [Qgis-user] OSGeo4W-packages for GRASS 7 only in QGIS

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Stephan,

On Mon, 21. Dec 2015 at 10:46:54 +, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote:
> I was wondering what packages I have to select in order to install the
> current release of QGIS only with GRASS 7 support (meaning esp. the GRASS 7
> plugin), cause I want to avoid confusion of users and mixed up GRASS mapsets
> (GRASS 6 /GRASS 7)...

The grass 7 plugin is only built in 32bit OSGeo4W - the 64bit version doesn't
have a stable 64bit GRASS 7 package yet - only a daily build.   That's going to
change with 7.0.3 (according to Martin Landa).

> P.S.: The current QGIS standalone installer ships only GRASS 6, so it is no
> alternative...

Yes.  I didn't want to have GRASS6 and 7 in the standalone installer and as
said GRASS7 is not available in 64bit yet.


Jürgen

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