Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[Andre Joost]

Am 13.08.12 09:24, schrieb Healthmaps:

But if one loads XYtools and then has to go back to the OSGEO4
download process again to get the missing modules then couldn't the
OSGEO4 download process be set up to download those modules in the
first place? All I had to do was use the advanced install and check
two modules from a list that had not already been installed where as
many others on that list already had been and were set up as some
general install.  I sort of understood what you wrote, but I guess
not quite.



Well, there are many plugins, and they might depend on many libs, 
perhaps only a special version. As long as you don't install the 
plugins, you would not miss them. Installing *all* from OSGeo4W ended 
for me in a non-working version, because stable and dev versions got 
mixed up.


It would be better if the plugin installer would advise you to rerun the 
OSGeo installer. But if the user has used the standalone installer, he 
would not know what do ...


Not that easy ;-)

Other way would be that the plugin installer comes with the libs by 
itself, and puts them in the site-packages folder if not already there.


Greetings,
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[Healthmaps]

But if one loads XYtools and then has to go back to the OSGEO4 download process 
again to get the missing modules then couldn't the OSGEO4 download process be 
set up to download those modules in the first place? All I had to do was use 
the advanced install and check two modules from a list that had not already 
been installed where as many others on that list already had been and were set 
up as some general install.  I sort of understood what you wrote, but I guess 
not quite.

Best,

Richard
Anchorage, AK

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> Am 13.08.12 08:42, schrieb Healthmaps: > indeed, I have learned this the hard 
> way! It does seems that these > modules could be loaded
> when the Plugin is loaded but perhaps there > is some reasonable, technical 
> reason why that is not done. Thanks - > The reason is that
> Qgis sets its own environment variables and does not care about any other 
> software installed on the PC. That has the advantage that it
> does not spoil any other installed program, which might depend on other 
> versions of python, gdal or wahtever. Only Microsoft VC++
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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[Andre Joost]

Am 13.08.12 08:42, schrieb Healthmaps:

indeed, I have learned this the hard way! It does seems that these
modules could be loaded when the Plugin is loaded but perhaps there
is some reasonable, technical reason why that is not done. Thanks -



The reason is that Qgis sets its own environment variables and does not 
care about any other software installed on the PC.
That has the advantage that it does not spoil any other installed 
program, which might depend on other versions of python, gdal or 
wahtever. Only Microsoft VC++ runtime does not fit into this concept.


Greetings,
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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[Healthmaps]

indeed, I have learned this the hard way! It does seems that these modules 
could be loaded when the Plugin is loaded but perhaps there is some reasonable, 
technical reason why that is not done. Thanks - 

Richard
Anchorage, AK 

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> Am 12.08.12 03:35, schrieb Noli Sicad: > Richard, > > It seems that python27 
> is installed in Windows in this manner. > >
> C:/python27/lib/site-packages > Well, yes. But Qgis has its own Python. And 
> you have to put your packages there. Otherwise Qgis will
> not find it. Path is: C:\Programs\Quantum GIS 
> Lisboa\apps\Python27\Lib\site-packages for Windows XP and C:\Programs 
> (x86)\... for
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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[Andre Joost]

Am 12.08.12 03:35, schrieb Noli Sicad:

Richard,

It seems that python27 is installed in Windows in this manner.

C:/python27/lib/site-packages



Well, yes. But Qgis has its own Python. And you have to put your 
packages there. Otherwise Qgis will not find it. Path is:


C:\Programs\Quantum GIS Lisboa\apps\Python27\Lib\site-packages

for Windows XP and C:\Programs (x86)\... for Windows 7.

greetings,
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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[Mats Elfström]

There is a lot to be said about user friendliness here...

Hälsning / Regards
Mats.E

Skickat från min / Sent from my iPhone, Ursäkta att jag är kortfattad /
Excuse my brevity.

12 aug 2012 kl. 22:55 skrev Healthmaps :

Noli, Thanks a lot for helping me out yesterday. I really appreciate it. I
learned a lot about several things.

Best regards,

Richard
Anchorage, AK

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> Richard, It seems that python27 is installed in Windows in this manner.
C:/python27/lib/site-packages See this screenshot in this blog
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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[Healthmaps]

Noli, Thanks a lot for helping me out yesterday. I really appreciate it. I 
learned a lot about several things.

Best regards,

Richard
Anchorage, AK

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> Richard, It seems that python27 is installed in Windows in this manner. 
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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[rhoskins]

The answer is rerunning osgeo-setup.exe
and using the advance install and selecting the python-xlrd and python-xlwt 
packages.

I can't figure what got changed/added where but it works!

Richard
Anchorage, AK



On Sun, 12 Aug 2012, Giovanni Manghi wrote:




Are there Windows users who have XYTOOLS installed and reading in Excel files?


sorry, I didn't followed the discussion, but have you installed the
needed python modules with the same osgeo4w installer, as described
here?

http://gis.stackexchange.com/a/31319/2912

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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[Giovanni Manghi]

> Are there Windows users who have XYTOOLS installed and reading in Excel files?

sorry, I didn't followed the discussion, but have you installed the
needed python modules with the same osgeo4w installer, as described
here?

http://gis.stackexchange.com/a/31319/2912

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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[rhoskins]

I installed through OSGeo4W. I also uninstalled QGIS and repeated the 
installation. After trying to install XLRD myself, I managed to get it into the 
right place in the Python27 folder (with considerable help from Noli - very 
patient fellow) but no changes. I may have still misunderstood what he told me 
to do.

XYTOOLS is installed in .qgis\python\plugins\xytools   In 
.qgis\python\plugins\xytools\docs\index.html I found the following:

"(to use this functionality you should have the python-uno library installed. For 
Linux you can probably install it via your package manager. On Windows it is harder: you 
can install it via the normal installer as addition/module, but there seems to be an 
error with the python path. The plugin cannot find it. If somebody knows a solution for 
this, please let me know. )"

Are there Windows users who have XYTOOLS installed and reading in Excel files?

Regards, 
Richard


On Sun, 12 Aug 2012, Alister Hood wrote:


Hi,


Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:39:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Healthmaps 
To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules
Message-ID: <1344728342654-4994635.p...@n6.nabble.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

QGIS 1.8 XYtools gives and error message about needing XLW & XLRD Python
libraries. I have found the site where they are but I do not understand any
of the directions, etc. I am not a Python programmer resulting in my having
no clue about one has to do. Can sopmeone point me to directions that will
tell me exactly what one is supposed to do and where one does it to get the
XYtools Excel pythins working. Same for Open Office. Seems the installation
process for XYtools should do this. Is there something I missed in the
installation? Thanks!


If you are Windows, the packages python-xlrd and python-xlwt should be 
available in the OSGeo4W installer - you shouldn't need to manually install 
them yourself.

Regards,
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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[Healthmaps]

OK, I got something to happen. (certainly no fault of mine ... thank you!)

I finally understood what you meant by "console" so I made a file qgisEx.bat
with the code

cd /d c:\dist\xlrd-0.8.0
C:\Python27\python.exe setup.py install


and upon execution I got a screen full of stuff in the DOS box. I detected 
nothing that said "error" , etc. It looks like it worked.

I found a c:\python27\Lib\site-packages\xlrd which has folders doc and examples 
and then a bunch of .pyc and .py files

But upon trying out XYtools in QGIS 1.8 again to read in a Excel file, I got 
the same error message about needing xlrd Python modules.

Looking at the XYtools folder in C:\Documents and 
Settings\healthmaps\.qgis\python\plugins\xytools\docs\index.html I found the 
following:

"(to use this functionality you should have the python-uno library installed. 
For Linux you can probably install it via your package manager. On Windows it 
is harder: you can install it via the normal installer as addition/module, but 
there seems to be an error with the python path. The plugin cannot find it. If 
somebody knows a solution for this, please let me know. )"

Apparently Windows users have figured this out or none of them have used it, 
and for you a Mac user, it works. I see that in Windows QGIS puts the plugins 
in  
C:\Documents and Settings\Healthmaps\.qgis\python\plugins\ subfolders for each 
plugin. But some code somewhere does not have the right code to find the xlrd 
module.

Thanks for you help. NOt sure what to do next

Richard 
Anchorage, AK



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> > What is this? > > "Open console (i.e. Terminal) in that directory (e.g. 
> > xlrd-0.8.0 directory). > Be sure you are in this directory /
> folder" OK. MSDOS box, a command_prompt. Have a look here. 
> http://www.decompile.com/windows/2000/command_prompt.htm> I have found the
> Python27 folder in Quantum GIS Lisboa. What is the console? > I figure it is 
> the interactive program that accepts Python commands, but
> I > do not know where it is in Python27 folder. No. the python27 in QGIS 
> Lisboa is not the your python installation. Try to look for
> another one. (I am using Mac OS X so I could not tell where is installed in 
> Windows). A console or terminal is generic term for what
> people in MS World called software give you access to command prompt. You 
> have python installation your system since you are able to
> use QGIS python plugins. Back to your problem. Open the MSDOS command prompt 
> in the directory where you see the setup.py Then, Type
> "python setup.py install"  in the console (MSDOS command prompt). Be sure 
> that you typed without quotes ("  "). It will install this in
> your python sites-packages. Search for the folder "sites-packages", you will 
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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

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Hi,

> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:39:02 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Healthmaps 
> To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules
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> QGIS 1.8 XYtools gives and error message about needing XLW & XLRD Python
> libraries. I have found the site where they are but I do not understand any
> of the directions, etc. I am not a Python programmer resulting in my having
> no clue about one has to do. Can sopmeone point me to directions that will
> tell me exactly what one is supposed to do and where one does it to get the
> XYtools Excel pythins working. Same for Open Office. Seems the installation
> process for XYtools should do this. Is there something I missed in the
> installation? Thanks!

If you are Windows, the packages python-xlrd and python-xlwt should be 
available in the OSGeo4W installer - you shouldn't need to manually install 
them yourself.

Regards,
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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[Noli Sicad]

Richard,

It seems that python27 is installed in Windows in this manner.

C:/python27/lib/site-packages

See this screenshot in this blog
http://humairahmed.com/blog/?p=1654

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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[Noli Sicad]

> What is this?
>
> "Open console (i.e. Terminal) in that directory (e.g. xlrd-0.8.0 directory).
> Be sure you are in this directory / folder"

OK. MSDOS box, a command_prompt.

Have a look here.
http://www.decompile.com/windows/2000/command_prompt.htm


> I have found the Python27 folder in Quantum GIS Lisboa. What is the console?
> I figure it is the interactive program that accepts Python commands, but I
> do not know where it is in Python27 folder.

No. the python27 in QGIS Lisboa is not the your python installation.
Try to look for another one. (I am using Mac OS X so I could not tell
where is installed in Windows).

A console or terminal is generic term for what people in MS World
called software give you access to command prompt.

You have python installation your system since you are able to use
QGIS python plugins.

Back to your problem.

Open the MSDOS command prompt in the directory where you see the setup.py

Then,

Type "python setup.py install"  in the console (MSDOS command prompt).

Be sure that you typed without quotes ("  ").

It will install this in your python sites-packages.

Search for the folder "sites-packages", you will find your python installation.

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[Healthmaps]

Noli:

What is this?

"Open console (i.e. Terminal) in that directory (e.g. xlrd-0.8.0 directory). Be 
sure you are in this directory / folder"

I have found the Python27 folder in Quantum GIS Lisboa. What is the console? I 
figure it is the interactive program that accepts Python commands, but I do not 
know where it is in Python27 folder.

Richard

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012, Noli Sicad [via OSGeo.org] wrote:

> Hi Richard, > Noli, Thanks for your reply, but ... OK I downloaded a .tar 
> file, eventually > I got a folder > dist/xlrd-0.8.0/scripts
> and dist/xlrd-0.8.0/doc & examples and 1000s of > words of Python 
> documentation stuff. > I have no idea what to do with what I
> downloaded. What to I put where to get > QGIS XYtools to read Excel files? > 
> > Sorry don't mean to be dense/difficult but I have no
> background in Python, > and if that is not required I am missing out 
> otherwise. I am not aware of > any other documentation that
> explains these kinds of issues with plugins.
> I suppose you are using Windows. You see setup.py in the directory that you 
> untar the file? 1. Untar download file (I think you done
> this already) 2. Open console (i.e. Terminal) in that directory (e.g. 
> xlrd-0.8.0 directory). Be sure you are in this directory / folder
> 3. Type: python setup.py install You can see the package installed in your 
> python installation. e.g. ( in Mac OS X      
> /python/2.7/site-packages/xlrd   ) 4. Do the same step in the other package 
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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

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Hi Richard,

> Noli, Thanks for your reply, but ... OK I downloaded a .tar file, eventually
> I got a folder
> dist/xlrd-0.8.0/scripts and dist/xlrd-0.8.0/doc & examples and 1000s of
> words of Python documentation stuff.
> I have no idea what to do with what I downloaded. What to I put where to get
> QGIS XYtools to read Excel files?
>
> Sorry don't mean to be dense/difficult but I have no background in Python,
> and if that is not required I am missing out otherwise. I am not aware of
> any other documentation that explains these kinds of issues with plugins.

I suppose you are using Windows.

You see setup.py in the directory that you untar the file?

1. Untar download file (I think you done this already)
2. Open console (i.e. Terminal) in that directory (e.g. xlrd-0.8.0
directory). Be sure you are in this directory / folder
3. Type: python setup.py install

You can see the package installed in your python installation.

e.g. ( in Mac OS X   /python/2.7/site-packages/xlrd   )

4. Do the same step in the other package i.e. xlwt 0.7.4

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[Etienne Tourigny]

Have your tried looking into the tutorial, listed on the main page?


The Tutorial

The notes for the tutorial which covers all three packages can be
downloaded here:

python-excel.pdf | GitHub
http://www.simplistix.co.uk/presentations/python-excel.pdf


On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:10 PM,   wrote:
> Noli, Thanks for your reply, but ... OK I downloaded a .tar file, eventually
> I got a folder dist/xlrd-0.8.0/scripts and dist/xlrd-0.8.0/doc & examples
> and 1000s of words of Python documentation stuff.
> I have no idea what to do with what I downloaded. What to I put where to get
> QGIS XYtools to read Excel files?
>
> Sorry don't mean to be dense/difficult but I have no background in Python,
> and if that is not required I am missing out otherwise. I am not aware of
> any other documentation that explains these kinds of issues with plugins.
>
> Thanks for your help -
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> On Sun, 12 Aug 2012, Noli Sicad wrote:
>
>>> QGIS 1.8 XYtools gives and error message about needing XLW & XLRD Python
>>> libraries. I have found the site where they are but I do not understand
>>> any
>>> of the directions, etc. I am not a Python programmer resulting in my
>>> having
>>> no clue about one has to do. Can sopmeone point me to directions that
>>> will
>>> tell me exactly what one is supposed to do and where one does it to get
>>> the
>>> XYtools Excel pythins working. Same for Open Office. Seems the
>>> installation
>>> process for XYtools should do this. Is there something I missed in the
>>> installation? Thanks!
>>
>>
>> http://hub.qgis.org/projects/xytools/
>>
>> You need to install these packages / modules.
>>
>> xlrd
>> This package is for reading data and formatting information from Excel
>> files.
>>
>> xlwt
>> This package is for writing data and formatting information to Excel
>> files.
>>
>> You can download these packages / modules here
>>
>> http://www.python-excel.org/
>>
>> Noli
>>
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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[rhoskins]

Noli, Thanks for your reply, but ... OK I downloaded a .tar file, eventually I got a folder 
dist/xlrd-0.8.0/scripts and dist/xlrd-0.8.0/doc & examples and 1000s of words of Python documentation stuff.

I have no idea what to do with what I downloaded. What to I put where to get 
QGIS XYtools to read Excel files?

Sorry don't mean to be dense/difficult but I have no background in Python, and 
if that is not required I am missing out otherwise. I am not aware of any other 
documentation that explains these kinds of issues with plugins.

Thanks for your help -

Richard


On Sun, 12 Aug 2012, Noli Sicad wrote:


QGIS 1.8 XYtools gives and error message about needing XLW & XLRD Python
libraries. I have found the site where they are but I do not understand any
of the directions, etc. I am not a Python programmer resulting in my having
no clue about one has to do. Can sopmeone point me to directions that will
tell me exactly what one is supposed to do and where one does it to get the
XYtools Excel pythins working. Same for Open Office. Seems the installation
process for XYtools should do this. Is there something I missed in the
installation? Thanks!


http://hub.qgis.org/projects/xytools/

You need to install these packages / modules.

xlrd
This package is for reading data and formatting information from Excel files.

xlwt
This package is for writing data and formatting information to Excel files.

You can download these packages / modules here

http://www.python-excel.org/

Noli



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Re: [Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[Noli Sicad]

> QGIS 1.8 XYtools gives and error message about needing XLW & XLRD Python
> libraries. I have found the site where they are but I do not understand any
> of the directions, etc. I am not a Python programmer resulting in my having
> no clue about one has to do. Can sopmeone point me to directions that will
> tell me exactly what one is supposed to do and where one does it to get the
> XYtools Excel pythins working. Same for Open Office. Seems the installation
> process for XYtools should do this. Is there something I missed in the
> installation? Thanks!

http://hub.qgis.org/projects/xytools/

You need to install these packages / modules.

xlrd
This package is for reading data and formatting information from Excel files.

xlwt
This package is for writing data and formatting information to Excel files.

You can download these packages / modules here

http://www.python-excel.org/

Noli
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[Qgis-user] XYtools needs Excel python modules

[Healthmaps]

QGIS 1.8 XYtools gives and error message about needing XLW & XLRD Python
libraries. I have found the site where they are but I do not understand any
of the directions, etc. I am not a Python programmer resulting in my having
no clue about one has to do. Can sopmeone point me to directions that will
tell me exactly what one is supposed to do and where one does it to get the
XYtools Excel pythins working. Same for Open Office. Seems the installation
process for XYtools should do this. Is there something I missed in the
installation? Thanks!




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