Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Hi Régis, I did here some tests with your data, your project and your composer (project_qgismaster_2613cf6.qgs). I did exports to pdf vector up to 1200dpi (the generated pdf got 99.1MB) without any problems (nor tiling, nor crashes). Regarding the export to pdf raster, everything worked well up to 500dpi (the generated pdf got 21.1MB). The three times I tried with 600dpi, qgis crashed. I'm with QGIS master on Xubuntu 12.04, on a 6 years old laptop (Intel Core2 T5500@1.66GHz CPU and 2x1GB DDR2@533 SDRAM). The processor was several times at 100% and RAM in export to pdf raster was also close to 100%. Best regards, Pedro Venâncio - Original Message - From: haubourg Hi All, I tried to create a common environnement to help us test and reproduce thoses crashes. Please find a zip (220Mo) with datas and qgs projects here, complete test report and screen captures of CPU/Memory state: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zg4zidwab83ym0d/VpxPA3euLI/QGIS_CRASH_COMPOSER https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zg4zidwab83ym0d/VpxPA3euLI/QGIS_CRASH_COMPOSER here are my firsts conclusions: - Making a fresh install of latest master with no plugin or setting *do not often lead to crash (once only for 20-30 exports), since when pdf or image raster if resolution is 300 dpi, then printing just.. does nothing except creating an empty pdf.* Two months ago, I had QGis computing several minutes and leading to a crash. *Something has changed! No crash, but still no usable export * - PDF Vector export has a 'tiling' issue of raster background. It seems to consume less ressources than raster printing. - image export do warn user if memory usage is high. PDF export should do the same. BUT, image export warns you, and does nothing.. just like pdf export. no image is generated I would be pleased to have some feedbacks on your platforms and versions.. We reallly need to consolidate exports. Mapping in QGIS is really often dedicated to export and printing.. We need it stable. Régis ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Hi Pedro, Was this on a 32bit or 64bit Linux system? Andreas Am 25.11.2012 20:15, schrieb Pedro Venâncio: Hi Régis, I did here some tests with your data, your project and your composer (project_qgismaster_2613cf6.qgs). I did exports to pdf vector up to 1200dpi (the generated pdf got 99.1MB) without any problems (nor tiling, nor crashes). Regarding the export to pdf raster, everything worked well up to 500dpi (the generated pdf got 21.1MB). The three times I tried with 600dpi, qgis crashed. I'm with QGIS master on Xubuntu 12.04, on a 6 years old laptop (Intel Core2 T5500@1.66GHz CPU and 2x1GB DDR2@533 SDRAM). The processor was several times at 100% and RAM in export to pdf raster was also close to 100%. Best regards, Pedro Venâncio - Original Message - From: haubourg Hi All, I tried to create a common environnement to help us test and reproduce thoses crashes. Please find a zip (220Mo) with datas and qgs projects here, complete test report and screen captures of CPU/Memory state: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zg4zidwab83ym0d/VpxPA3euLI/QGIS_CRASH_COMPOSER https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zg4zidwab83ym0d/VpxPA3euLI/QGIS_CRASH_COMPOSER here are my firsts conclusions: - Making a fresh install of latest master with no plugin or setting *do not often lead to crash (once only for 20-30 exports), since when pdf or image raster if resolution is 300 dpi, then printing just.. does nothing except creating an empty pdf.* Two months ago, I had QGis computing several minutes and leading to a crash. *Something has changed! No crash, but still no usable export * - PDF Vector export has a 'tiling' issue of raster background. It seems to consume less ressources than raster printing. - image export do warn user if memory usage is high. PDF export should do the same. BUT, image export warns you, and does nothing.. just like pdf export. no image is generated I would be pleased to have some feedbacks on your platforms and versions.. We reallly need to consolidate exports. Mapping in QGIS is really often dedicated to export and printing.. We need it stable. Régis ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Oh sorry Andreas, I forgot to mention that, it is 32bit: pedro@fujitsu:~$ uname -a Linux fujitsu 3.2.0-33-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 18 16:19:45 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux pedro@fujitsu:~$ file /bin/bash | cut -d' ' -f3 32-bit I must also say that this is my working QGIS, with lots of plugins, it is not a clean installation. Best regards, Pedro - Original Message - From: Andreas Neumann Hi Pedro, Was this on a 32bit or 64bit Linux system? Andreas Am 25.11.2012 20:15, schrieb Pedro Venâncio: Hi Régis, I did here some tests with your data, your project and your composer (project_qgismaster_2613cf6.qgs). I did exports to pdf vector up to 1200dpi (the generated pdf got 99.1MB) without any problems (nor tiling, nor crashes). Regarding the export to pdf raster, everything worked well up to 500dpi (the generated pdf got 21.1MB). The three times I tried with 600dpi, qgis crashed. I'm with QGIS master on Xubuntu 12.04, on a 6 years old laptop (Intel Core2 T5500@1.66GHz CPU and 2x1GB DDR2@533 SDRAM). The processor was several times at 100% and RAM in export to pdf raster was also close to 100%. Best regards, Pedro Venâncio ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
On 23/11/2012, at 11:42, Ramon Andiñach cust...@westnet.com.au wrote: I've just worked through your notes on my OSGeo4w master - 3700d84 (unfortunately not a fresh install, might try later) and actually had crashes where you did. I did not get any blank PDFs though. The test above was with win7. On this machine I have both qgis *and* qgis-dev. I did a clean qgis-dev *only* install on winXP and got the crashes *and* the blank PDFs. I then backed up my win7 install (which is remarkably easy) and then did a qgis-dev only install and got the same results. So blank PDFs is confirmed to me. I then restored my old qgis and qgis-dev and went looking at packages. If I add python-shapely on the XP machine I get crashes but not blank PDFs. Is any one able to confirm that? I'm out of time now to test it on win7. See how I go on the weekend. -ramon. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Hi, on XP, I installed shapely as described: - systematic crashes with pdf raster export 400 dpi. Memory usage going up to 762Mo (on 4Go) when crashing. When crashing, I hear HDD swapping a lot (confirmed on task manager). Composer screen starts a refresh and goes blank. at the same time, I get a CPU peak to 100 %, and then crash message coming - 300 dpi pdf raster export is generated - 500 dpi does nothing, only a small CPU peak. Blank pdf is generated (2Ko) Then I uninstalled shapely wiht osgeo installer. Crashes keep on .. Not sure if I uninstalled correctly. I think we are not reproducing all cases but we start to have something reproducible. If others confirm, we could start to track it in hub.qgis.org? -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/qgis-and-Large-Format-Print-tp5016300p5018326.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
On 23/11/2012, at 18:19 , haubourg wrote: Hi, on XP, I installed shapely as described: - systematic crashes with pdf raster export 400 dpi. Memory usage going up to 762Mo (on 4Go) when crashing. When crashing, I hear HDD swapping a lot (confirmed on task manager). Composer screen starts a refresh and goes blank. at the same time, I get a CPU peak to 100 %, and then crash message coming - 300 dpi pdf raster export is generated - 500 dpi does nothing, only a small CPU peak. Blank pdf is generated (2Ko) Then I uninstalled shapely wiht osgeo installer. Crashes keep on .. Not sure if I uninstalled correctly. Poot. Oh, well, so much for Friday afternoon optimism. I think we are not reproducing all cases but we start to have something reproducible. If others confirm, we could start to track it in hub.qgis.org? Yes, definitely. What you've made there is a project that reliably crashes the composer. -ramon. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
in my recent experience, exporting as pdf a simple A3 at 1200 dpi, having googlemaps as background and two rasters and some points/polygons, makes crash. the solution i've adopted is to print the layout to pdf printer, but in this way the pdf is a raster pdf not vector -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/qgis-and-Large-Format-Print-tp5016300p5018171.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
On 22/11/2012, at 18:18, haubourg regis.haubo...@eau-adour-garonne.fr wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zg4zidwab83ym0d/VpxPA3euLI/QGIS_CRASH_COMPOSER here are my firsts conclusions: - Making a fresh install of latest master with no plugin or setting *do not often lead to crash (once only for 20-30 exports), since when pdf or image raster if resolution is 300 dpi, then printing just.. does nothing except creating an empty pdf.* Two months ago, I had QGis computing several minutes and leading to a crash. *Something has changed! No crash, but still no usable export * - PDF Vector export has a 'tiling' issue of raster background. It seems to consume less ressources than raster printing. - image export do warn user if memory usage is high. PDF export should do the same. BUT, image export warns you, and does nothing.. just like pdf export. no image is generated I would be pleased to have some feedbacks on your platforms and versions.. We reallly need to consolidate exports. Mapping in QGIS is really often dedicated to export and printing.. We need it stable. Régis Well done! I've just worked through your notes on my OSGeo4w master - 3700d84 (unfortunately not a fresh install, might try later) and actually had crashes where you did. I did not get any blank PDFs though. Where your vector exports about twice as big as the raster versions? Is that expected? -ramon. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Hi Ramon Andiñach wrote Where your vector exports about twice as big as the raster versions? Is that expected? -ramon. Thanks for your tests. Yes, pdf are twice as big as rasters for me too. This is uinderstandable since it keeps all vertex of geometries, and they are big, and you also have a raster in background. Is that a normal behaviour? Not sure, I would prefer that, like in Arcgis, a simplification of feature be applied, according to user dpi choice. There is no use having very complex vectors on top of downsampled raster. I think PDFCreator does that on the fly. I'll check. Régis -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/qgis-and-Large-Format-Print-tp5016300p5018284.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Paolo Cavallini wrote I think the first step is to make the problem replicable: could anyone share a project and data that consistently make QGIS crash on 32 bit? Thanks. Hi, I'm on it... but.. Impossible to export pdf as raster in nightly build ! pdf is exported with an empty frame.. Is somebody working on it? Régis -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/qgis-and-Large-Format-Print-tp5016300p5017606.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
On 17/11/2012, at 20:31 , Paolo Cavallini wrote: Il 16/11/2012 17:04, Marco Hugentobler ha scritto: I just printed a tiff raster layer to A0 pdf with 600 dpi and with a 32bit 1.8 qgis.exe on windows. Works without problems. Could it be people who encountered problems are using 1.7.4 or older (there was a memory leak fixed before 1.8) / are printing 'as raster' / exporting to image? Hi all. I think the first step is to make the problem replicable: could anyone share a project and data that consistently make QGIS crash on 32 bit? Thanks. Out of curiousity, has anyone has anyone had a repeatable crash for this? (I've tried, and the best I can manage is an I'm aborting message, but no crash). -ramon. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Yes, I created an A0 map with master in august and had systematic crash if dpi was 250 dpi. I had to set raster export to keep labels and some rasters not exported. I Also had to downsize A0 to A1 to reduce final size. I used afterward acrobat reader capacities to warp A1 to A0. But final rendering is not good on paper. I'm urrently working on creating a shared project to reproduce thoses crashes, with free datas. Régis -Message d'origine- De : qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] De la part de Ramon Andiñach Envoyé : mardi 20 novembre 2012 11:57 À : qgis-user User Objet : Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print On 17/11/2012, at 20:31 , Paolo Cavallini wrote: Il 16/11/2012 17:04, Marco Hugentobler ha scritto: I just printed a tiff raster layer to A0 pdf with 600 dpi and with a 32bit 1.8 qgis.exe on windows. Works without problems. Could it be people who encountered problems are using 1.7.4 or older (there was a memory leak fixed before 1.8) / are printing 'as raster' / exporting to image? Hi all. I think the first step is to make the problem replicable: could anyone share a project and data that consistently make QGIS crash on 32 bit? Thanks. Out of curiousity, has anyone has anyone had a repeatable crash for this? (I've tried, and the best I can manage is an I'm aborting message, but no crash). -ramon. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Il 16/11/2012 17:04, Marco Hugentobler ha scritto: I just printed a tiff raster layer to A0 pdf with 600 dpi and with a 32bit 1.8 qgis.exe on windows. Works without problems. Could it be people who encountered problems are using 1.7.4 or older (there was a memory leak fixed before 1.8) / are printing 'as raster' / exporting to image? Hi all. I think the first step is to make the problem replicable: could anyone share a project and data that consistently make QGIS crash on 32 bit? Thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
I'm interested in knowing if using clustered temporary files is a possible solution. Marco, your opinion? What do you mean with clustered temp files? giovanni I'm also interested in knowing if somebody ever worked on a 64 bit Windows version of QGIS.. That would be nice for perfs ! (I'm using WinServer 2008 R2.. 64 bits.). Régis -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/qgis-and-Large-Format-Print-tp5016300p5016683.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Il 16/11/2012 08:55, Bernhard Ströbl ha scritto: The print problems on Win32 are a major drawback here as large format plans are needed. Just to illustrate what Luca wrote: We are a city administration running around 1200 PCs with some 500+ applications on WinXP. Hardware is less In this case, an investment for a fix seems a reasonable option. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
The important thing would be to find out in what situation the printing fails? * Is it related to big rasters? * Are WMS used? * Is it failing on all printer or only certain printers? * Is the printer failing (some printers rund out of memory if you send big files) or is QGIS failing? There are so many unknowns that it is kind of hard to find out where exactly the printing fails. I do not print large formats too often, but I don't remember having problems often. We print with an old HP Designjet. Andreas On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:55:50 +0100, Bernhard Ströbl wrote: Am 16.11.2012 08:32, schrieb Luca Manganelli: Il 15/11/2012, qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org ha scritto: Unfortunately, in many Public Administrations here in Italy, the upgrade cycle for hardware is not so fast, so for several years we expect to have still 32 bits (or 64 bit installed with 32 bit win). In any case, I guess a 64 bit win build is not yet available, right? So, in short, it would be good to have an idea wheter it is possible to find a solution also for 32's. Marco, any idea? Thanks. I can confirm this situation. Many corporate machines are still running 32 bit operating system (Windows XP) because they must guarantee compatibility with certain old software. It's not a good excuse to say go to 64 bit! because for years ArcMap was able to print very large and complex (A0 format and beyond) maps on PC with only 2GB of RAM. The print problems on Win32 are a major drawback here as large format plans are needed. Just to illustrate what Luca wrote: We are a city administration running around 1200 PCs with some 500+ applications on WinXP. Hardware is less a problem (almost all machines will be 64 bit next year) than to ensure compatibility of _all_ applications with Win64. This needs intense testing and negotiations with software companies and thus - time. Bernhard __ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 7697 (20121115) __ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- -- Andreas Neumann Böschacherstrasse 10A 8624 Grüt (Gossau ZH) Switzerland ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
I did not thoroughly check now but as far as I remember - with big rasters: yes (only vectors: no) - WMS: yes (have to try again with new tile-option in 1.8) - all printers and pdf/png export - QGIS fails We normlly print in pdf (freePDF or PDFCreator) formats: anything larger than A1 Bernhard Am 16.11.2012 09:26, schrieb Andreas Neumann: The important thing would be to find out in what situation the printing fails? * Is it related to big rasters? * Are WMS used? * Is it failing on all printer or only certain printers? * Is the printer failing (some printers rund out of memory if you send big files) or is QGIS failing? There are so many unknowns that it is kind of hard to find out where exactly the printing fails. I do not print large formats too often, but I don't remember having problems often. We print with an old HP Designjet. Andreas On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:55:50 +0100, Bernhard Ströbl wrote: Am 16.11.2012 08:32, schrieb Luca Manganelli: Il 15/11/2012, qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org ha scritto: Unfortunately, in many Public Administrations here in Italy, the upgrade cycle for hardware is not so fast, so for several years we expect to have still 32 bits (or 64 bit installed with 32 bit win). In any case, I guess a 64 bit win build is not yet available, right? So, in short, it would be good to have an idea wheter it is possible to find a solution also for 32's. Marco, any idea? Thanks. I can confirm this situation. Many corporate machines are still running 32 bit operating system (Windows XP) because they must guarantee compatibility with certain old software. It's not a good excuse to say go to 64 bit! because for years ArcMap was able to print very large and complex (A0 format and beyond) maps on PC with only 2GB of RAM. The print problems on Win32 are a major drawback here as large format plans are needed. Just to illustrate what Luca wrote: We are a city administration running around 1200 PCs with some 500+ applications on WinXP. Hardware is less a problem (almost all machines will be 64 bit next year) than to ensure compatibility of _all_ applications with Win64. This needs intense testing and negotiations with software companies and thus - time. Bernhard __ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 7697 (20121115) __ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- Bernhard Ströbl Anwendungsbetreuer GIS Kommunale Immobilien Jena Am Anger 26 07743 Jena Tel.: 03641 49- 5190 E-Mail: bernhard.stro...@jena.de Internet: www.kij.de Kommunale Immobilien Jena Eigenbetrieb der Stadt Jena Werkleiter: Dr. Götz Blankenburg __ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 7697 (20121115) __ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
giohappy wrote What do you mean with clustered temp files? giovanni Hi Giovanni, I was refering to swapping method used by Postgis or FME uses for handling large computations. Temporary files are segmented in files that size less than 2Go.. If not, you will encounter same 32 bits OS limitations. Just have a look at /pgsql_tmp of a postgis cluster when running huge queries for example. (SQL WITH RECURSIVE uses it lot). I do will fund fixing for 32 bits quickly, in the limits of my capacities of course. Issue is not easy to reproduce since it is related to memory, and every memory consuming action can make memory override system capacities. (labeling, antialiasing, hih resolution rasters... ). It critical we solve that issue since A0 printing at 600dpi with raster is one of the main uses for city management (main users og GIS tools in France). If QGIS is rock stable on printing, many new administrations could switch (which mean new contribs too) Régis -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/qgis-and-Large-Format-Print-tp5016300p5016871.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Il 16/11/2012, Bernhard Ströbl bernhard.stro...@jena.de ha scritto: I did not thoroughly check now but as far as I remember - with big rasters: yes (only vectors: no) - WMS: yes (have to try again with new tile-option in 1.8) - all printers and pdf/png export - QGIS fails I can confirm these issues. We often print in non-standard formats (custom paper size), since we have many plotter.___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
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Hi Giovanni, I was refering to swapping method used by Postgis or FME uses for handling large computations. Temporary files are segmented in files that size less than 2Go.. If not, you will encounter same 32 bits OS limitations. Just have a look at /pgsql_tmp of a postgis cluster when running huge queries for example. (SQL WITH RECURSIVE uses it lot). Ok, thanks. I wanted just a confirm we were referring to the same thing ;) giovanni ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
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Hi all It needs a bit more examination in which cases the problems occure. It is reasonable to me that there is a crash if 'print as raster' is checked and for the export to image file. In these cases, the whole composer content is rendered into one big image first. It is not clear to me why it crashes (or if it doesn't?) if printing to pdf (without print as raster). Because QGIS tiles the rasters internally and draws the images one by one using QPrinter. So in theory, this should already work without using too much memory. Regards, Marco On 16.11.2012 10:03, Bernhard Ströbl wrote: I did not thoroughly check now but as far as I remember - with big rasters: yes (only vectors: no) - WMS: yes (have to try again with new tile-option in 1.8) - all printers and pdf/png export - QGIS fails We normlly print in pdf (freePDF or PDFCreator) formats: anything larger than A1 Bernhard Am 16.11.2012 09:26, schrieb Andreas Neumann: The important thing would be to find out in what situation the printing fails? * Is it related to big rasters? * Are WMS used? * Is it failing on all printer or only certain printers? * Is the printer failing (some printers rund out of memory if you send big files) or is QGIS failing? There are so many unknowns that it is kind of hard to find out where exactly the printing fails. I do not print large formats too often, but I don't remember having problems often. We print with an old HP Designjet. Andreas On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:55:50 +0100, Bernhard Ströbl wrote: Am 16.11.2012 08:32, schrieb Luca Manganelli: Il 15/11/2012, qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org ha scritto: Unfortunately, in many Public Administrations here in Italy, the upgrade cycle for hardware is not so fast, so for several years we expect to have still 32 bits (or 64 bit installed with 32 bit win). In any case, I guess a 64 bit win build is not yet available, right? So, in short, it would be good to have an idea wheter it is possible to find a solution also for 32's. Marco, any idea? Thanks. I can confirm this situation. Many corporate machines are still running 32 bit operating system (Windows XP) because they must guarantee compatibility with certain old software. It's not a good excuse to say go to 64 bit! because for years ArcMap was able to print very large and complex (A0 format and beyond) maps on PC with only 2GB of RAM. The print problems on Win32 are a major drawback here as large format plans are needed. Just to illustrate what Luca wrote: We are a city administration running around 1200 PCs with some 500+ applications on WinXP. Hardware is less a problem (almost all machines will be 64 bit next year) than to ensure compatibility of _all_ applications with Win64. This needs intense testing and negotiations with software companies and thus - time. Bernhard __ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 7697 (20121115) __ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- Dr. Marco Hugentobler Sourcepole - Linux Open Source Solutions Weberstrasse 5, CH-8004 Zürich, Switzerland marco.hugentob...@sourcepole.ch http://www.sourcepole.ch Technical Advisor QGIS Project Steering Committee ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Marco, referring to my last mail I can confirm what you write: As soon as I tick Print as raster the print fails, though no crash. Bernhard Am 16.11.2012 12:17, schrieb Marco Hugentobler: Hi all It needs a bit more examination in which cases the problems occure. It is reasonable to me that there is a crash if 'print as raster' is checked and for the export to image file. In these cases, the whole composer content is rendered into one big image first. It is not clear to me why it crashes (or if it doesn't?) if printing to pdf (without print as raster). Because QGIS tiles the rasters internally and draws the images one by one using QPrinter. So in theory, this should already work without using too much memory. Regards, Marco On 16.11.2012 10:03, Bernhard Ströbl wrote: I did not thoroughly check now but as far as I remember - with big rasters: yes (only vectors: no) - WMS: yes (have to try again with new tile-option in 1.8) - all printers and pdf/png export - QGIS fails We normlly print in pdf (freePDF or PDFCreator) formats: anything larger than A1 Bernhard Am 16.11.2012 09:26, schrieb Andreas Neumann: The important thing would be to find out in what situation the printing fails? * Is it related to big rasters? * Are WMS used? * Is it failing on all printer or only certain printers? * Is the printer failing (some printers rund out of memory if you send big files) or is QGIS failing? There are so many unknowns that it is kind of hard to find out where exactly the printing fails. I do not print large formats too often, but I don't remember having problems often. We print with an old HP Designjet. Andreas On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:55:50 +0100, Bernhard Ströbl wrote: Am 16.11.2012 08:32, schrieb Luca Manganelli: Il 15/11/2012, qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org ha scritto: Unfortunately, in many Public Administrations here in Italy, the upgrade cycle for hardware is not so fast, so for several years we expect to have still 32 bits (or 64 bit installed with 32 bit win). In any case, I guess a 64 bit win build is not yet available, right? So, in short, it would be good to have an idea wheter it is possible to find a solution also for 32's. Marco, any idea? Thanks. I can confirm this situation. Many corporate machines are still running 32 bit operating system (Windows XP) because they must guarantee compatibility with certain old software. It's not a good excuse to say go to 64 bit! because for years ArcMap was able to print very large and complex (A0 format and beyond) maps on PC with only 2GB of RAM. The print problems on Win32 are a major drawback here as large format plans are needed. Just to illustrate what Luca wrote: We are a city administration running around 1200 PCs with some 500+ applications on WinXP. Hardware is less a problem (almost all machines will be 64 bit next year) than to ensure compatibility of _all_ applications with Win64. This needs intense testing and negotiations with software companies and thus - time. Bernhard __ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 7697 (20121115) __ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user __ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 7698 (20121116) __ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
I just printed a tiff raster layer to A0 pdf with 600 dpi and with a 32bit 1.8 qgis.exe on windows. Works without problems. Could it be people who encountered problems are using 1.7.4 or older (there was a memory leak fixed before 1.8) / are printing 'as raster' / exporting to image? Regards, Marco On 16.11.2012 12:17, Marco Hugentobler wrote: Hi all It needs a bit more examination in which cases the problems occure. It is reasonable to me that there is a crash if 'print as raster' is checked and for the export to image file. In these cases, the whole composer content is rendered into one big image first. It is not clear to me why it crashes (or if it doesn't?) if printing to pdf (without print as raster). Because QGIS tiles the rasters internally and draws the images one by one using QPrinter. So in theory, this should already work without using too much memory. Regards, Marco On 16.11.2012 10:03, Bernhard Ströbl wrote: I did not thoroughly check now but as far as I remember - with big rasters: yes (only vectors: no) - WMS: yes (have to try again with new tile-option in 1.8) - all printers and pdf/png export - QGIS fails We normlly print in pdf (freePDF or PDFCreator) formats: anything larger than A1 Bernhard Am 16.11.2012 09:26, schrieb Andreas Neumann: The important thing would be to find out in what situation the printing fails? * Is it related to big rasters? * Are WMS used? * Is it failing on all printer or only certain printers? * Is the printer failing (some printers rund out of memory if you send big files) or is QGIS failing? There are so many unknowns that it is kind of hard to find out where exactly the printing fails. I do not print large formats too often, but I don't remember having problems often. We print with an old HP Designjet. Andreas On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:55:50 +0100, Bernhard Ströbl wrote: Am 16.11.2012 08:32, schrieb Luca Manganelli: Il 15/11/2012, qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org ha scritto: Unfortunately, in many Public Administrations here in Italy, the upgrade cycle for hardware is not so fast, so for several years we expect to have still 32 bits (or 64 bit installed with 32 bit win). In any case, I guess a 64 bit win build is not yet available, right? So, in short, it would be good to have an idea wheter it is possible to find a solution also for 32's. Marco, any idea? Thanks. I can confirm this situation. Many corporate machines are still running 32 bit operating system (Windows XP) because they must guarantee compatibility with certain old software. It's not a good excuse to say go to 64 bit! because for years ArcMap was able to print very large and complex (A0 format and beyond) maps on PC with only 2GB of RAM. The print problems on Win32 are a major drawback here as large format plans are needed. Just to illustrate what Luca wrote: We are a city administration running around 1200 PCs with some 500+ applications on WinXP. Hardware is less a problem (almost all machines will be 64 bit next year) than to ensure compatibility of _all_ applications with Win64. This needs intense testing and negotiations with software companies and thus - time. Bernhard __ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 7697 (20121115) __ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- Dr. Marco Hugentobler Sourcepole - Linux Open Source Solutions Weberstrasse 5, CH-8004 Zürich, Switzerland marco.hugentob...@sourcepole.ch http://www.sourcepole.ch Technical Advisor QGIS Project Steering Committee ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
I confirm issue on both 1.8 and master. It is related to these tickets: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/3687 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/5840 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/4821 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/6498 I suppose we have problem with large memory usage on 32 bits platforms if it exceeds memory allowed. If confirmed, maybe this should be solved by using clustered temporary files so that it never exceeds max allowed memory in OS. All this need further investigations. I'm ready to fund this but that would help a lot if somebody confirm that this is a memory issue.. I don't know how to monitor this by myself. Régis -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/qgis-and-Large-Format-Print-tp5016300p5016544.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
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Ok, maybe that's why I'm not facing the issue, being on a 64 bit machine. On Windows I use naively the Task Manager's Resource Monitor to see the memeory usage of my programs. On Linux I use top [1] giovanni [1] http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_top.htm 2012/11/15 haubourg regis.haubo...@eau-adour-garonne.fr I confirm issue on both 1.8 and master. It is related to these tickets: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/3687 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/5840 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/4821 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/6498 I suppose we have problem with large memory usage on 32 bits platforms if it exceeds memory allowed. If confirmed, maybe this should be solved by using clustered temporary files so that it never exceeds max allowed memory in OS. All this need further investigations. I'm ready to fund this but that would help a lot if somebody confirm that this is a memory issue.. I don't know how to monitor this by myself. Régis -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/qgis-and-Large-Format-Print-tp5016300p5016544.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Hi Régis I can confirm it is a memory issue and should work with 64bit systems (note: on windows you need a real 64bit build, a 32bit build will have the memory problems even if it runs on 64bit hardware). Regards, Marco On 15.11.2012 10:41, haubourg wrote: I confirm issue on both 1.8 and master. It is related to these tickets: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/3687 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/5840 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/4821 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/6498 I suppose we have problem with large memory usage on 32 bits platforms if it exceeds memory allowed. If confirmed, maybe this should be solved by using clustered temporary files so that it never exceeds max allowed memory in OS. All this need further investigations. I'm ready to fund this but that would help a lot if somebody confirm that this is a memory issue.. I don't know how to monitor this by myself. Régis -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/qgis-and-Large-Format-Print-tp5016300p5016544.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- Dr. Marco Hugentobler Sourcepole - Linux Open Source Solutions Weberstrasse 5, CH-8004 Zürich, Switzerland marco.hugentob...@sourcepole.ch http://www.sourcepole.ch Technical Advisor QGIS Project Steering Committee ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
I can confirm it is a memory issue and should work with 64bit systems (note: on windows you need a real 64bit build, a 32bit build will have the memory problems even if it runs on 64bit hardware). It works with my *real* 64 bit Windows :) giovanni Regards, Marco On 15.11.2012 10:41, haubourg wrote: I confirm issue on both 1.8 and master. It is related to these tickets: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/**3687 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/3687 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/**5840 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/5840 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/**4821 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/4821 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/**6498 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/6498 I suppose we have problem with large memory usage on 32 bits platforms if it exceeds memory allowed. If confirmed, maybe this should be solved by using clustered temporary files so that it never exceeds max allowed memory in OS. All this need further investigations. I'm ready to fund this but that would help a lot if somebody confirm that this is a memory issue.. I don't know how to monitor this by myself. Régis -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.** nabble.com/qgis-and-Large-**Format-Print-**tp5016300p5016544.htmlhttp://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/qgis-and-Large-Format-Print-tp5016300p5016544.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __**_ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/qgis-userhttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- Dr. Marco Hugentobler Sourcepole - Linux Open Source Solutions Weberstrasse 5, CH-8004 Zürich, Switzerland marco.hugentobler@sourcepole.**ch marco.hugentob...@sourcepole.ch http://www.sourcepole.ch Technical Advisor QGIS Project Steering Committee __**_ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/qgis-userhttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Il 15/11/2012 11:52, G. Allegri ha scritto: I can confirm it is a memory issue and should work with 64bit systems (note: on windows you need a real 64bit build, a 32bit build will have the memory problems even if it runs on 64bit hardware). It works with my *real* 64 bit Windows :) Hi. You mean you have a qgis compiled on win @ 64 bit? Where did you get it from? Marco: any hope to fix it also on 32 bit, maybe by swapping to disk, or other? Some resources may be available for this. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Hi. You mean you have a qgis compiled on win @ 64 bit? Where did you get it from? Ops, sorry, I meant Linux 64 bit. Windows bit would require to compile all the dependencies as 64 bit! Marco: any hope to fix it also on 32 bit, maybe by swapping to disk, or other? Some resources may be available for this. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunaliawww.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
I'm interested in knowing if using clustered temporary files is a possible solution. Marco, your opinion? I'm also interested in knowing if somebody ever worked on a 64 bit Windows version of QGIS.. That would be nice for perfs ! (I'm using WinServer 2008 R2.. 64 bits.). Régis -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/qgis-and-Large-Format-Print-tp5016300p5016683.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
I'm interested in knowing if using clustered temporary files is a possible solution. Marco, your opinion? I think it is not worth the trouble. Better go with native 64bit builds, the 32 bit machines are disappearing more and more. Regards, Marco On 15.11.2012 17:12, haubourg wrote: I'm interested in knowing if using clustered temporary files is a possible solution. Marco, your opinion? I'm also interested in knowing if somebody ever worked on a 64 bit Windows version of QGIS.. That would be nice for perfs ! (I'm using WinServer 2008 R2.. 64 bits.). Régis -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/qgis-and-Large-Format-Print-tp5016300p5016683.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- Dr. Marco Hugentobler Sourcepole - Linux Open Source Solutions Weberstrasse 5, CH-8004 Zürich, Switzerland marco.hugentob...@sourcepole.ch http://www.sourcepole.ch Technical Advisor QGIS Project Steering Committee ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Il 15/11/2012 17:33, Marco Hugentobler ha scritto: I'm interested in knowing if using clustered temporary files is a possible solution. Marco, your opinion? I think it is not worth the trouble. Better go with native 64bit builds, the 32 bit machines are disappearing more and more. Unfortunately, in many Public Administrations here in Italy, the upgrade cycle for hardware is not so fast, so for several years we expect to have still 32 bits (or 64 bit installed with 32 bit win). In any case, I guess a 64 bit win build is not yet available, right? So, in short, it would be good to have an idea wheter it is possible to find a solution also for 32's. Marco, any idea? Thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Il 15/11/2012, qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org ha scritto: Unfortunately, in many Public Administrations here in Italy, the upgrade cycle for hardware is not so fast, so for several years we expect to have still 32 bits (or 64 bit installed with 32 bit win). In any case, I guess a 64 bit win build is not yet available, right? So, in short, it would be good to have an idea wheter it is possible to find a solution also for 32's. Marco, any idea? Thanks. I can confirm this situation. Many corporate machines are still running 32 bit operating system (Windows XP) because they must guarantee compatibility with certain old software. It's not a good excuse to say go to 64 bit! because for years ArcMap was able to print very large and complex (A0 format and beyond) maps on PC with only 2GB of RAM.___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Am 16.11.2012 08:32, schrieb Luca Manganelli: Il 15/11/2012, qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org ha scritto: Unfortunately, in many Public Administrations here in Italy, the upgrade cycle for hardware is not so fast, so for several years we expect to have still 32 bits (or 64 bit installed with 32 bit win). In any case, I guess a 64 bit win build is not yet available, right? So, in short, it would be good to have an idea wheter it is possible to find a solution also for 32's. Marco, any idea? Thanks. I can confirm this situation. Many corporate machines are still running 32 bit operating system (Windows XP) because they must guarantee compatibility with certain old software. It's not a good excuse to say go to 64 bit! because for years ArcMap was able to print very large and complex (A0 format and beyond) maps on PC with only 2GB of RAM. The print problems on Win32 are a major drawback here as large format plans are needed. Just to illustrate what Luca wrote: We are a city administration running around 1200 PCs with some 500+ applications on WinXP. Hardware is less a problem (almost all machines will be 64 bit next year) than to ensure compatibility of _all_ applications with Win64. This needs intense testing and negotiations with software companies and thus - time. Bernhard __ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 7697 (20121115) __ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
[Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Hi, When try to plot or export on a pdf an A0 format using the composer. I see sometime the qgis crash. I need to print in A0 few times and so when qgis crash, I simply reduce the quality from 600 dpi to 300 dpi and all go ok. However I like to understand why qgis crash. Infact I read somewhere that it is a memory availability problem. So I like to know if increasing my memory RAM this crash problem could disappeared. Also I need to understand if a 4GB ram that is the maximum ram usable on my window 32 bit. Could be sufficient for a A0 print. Thx, -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Are you using qgis from trunk or qgis 1.8? giovanni 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com Hi, When try to plot or export on a pdf an A0 format using the composer. I see sometime the qgis crash. I need to print in A0 few times and so when qgis crash, I simply reduce the quality from 600 dpi to 300 dpi and all go ok. However I like to understand why qgis crash. Infact I read somewhere that it is a memory availability problem. So I like to know if increasing my memory RAM this crash problem could disappeared. Also I need to understand if a 4GB ram that is the maximum ram usable on my window 32 bit. Could be sufficient for a A0 print. Thx, -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Both. Usually I try to print firstly with 1.8.0. If it crash , then I try with qgis trunk. Sometime trunk has successful some other time no. 2012/11/14 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com: Are you using qgis from trunk or qgis 1.8? giovanni 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com Hi, When try to plot or export on a pdf an A0 format using the composer. I see sometime the qgis crash. I need to print in A0 few times and so when qgis crash, I simply reduce the quality from 600 dpi to 300 dpi and all go ok. However I like to understand why qgis crash. Infact I read somewhere that it is a memory availability problem. So I like to know if increasing my memory RAM this crash problem could disappeared. Also I need to understand if a 4GB ram that is the maximum ram usable on my window 32 bit. Could be sufficient for a A0 print. Thx, -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
Could you share a sample project. I suppose you're using the Regione Toscana WMS... 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com My print A0 are always with a base map of ortofoto from WMS (using tile option). When try with 1.8.0 is will crash with a messagebox. Using the trunk version sometime the print process will stop without inish the download of all tiles. I guess this is a silent crash of the printer module or of the composer. 2012/11/14 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com: I just asked because I haven't noticed the A0 issue with the trunk... giovanni 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com Both. Usually I try to print firstly with 1.8.0. If it crash , then I try with qgis trunk. Sometime trunk has successful some other time no. 2012/11/14 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com: Are you using qgis from trunk or qgis 1.8? giovanni 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com Hi, When try to plot or export on a pdf an A0 format using the composer. I see sometime the qgis crash. I need to print in A0 few times and so when qgis crash, I simply reduce the quality from 600 dpi to 300 dpi and all go ok. However I like to understand why qgis crash. Infact I read somewhere that it is a memory availability problem. So I like to know if increasing my memory RAM this crash problem could disappeared. Also I need to understand if a 4GB ram that is the maximum ram usable on my window 32 bit. Could be sufficient for a A0 print. Thx, -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
No problema, but AFAIK the qgis problem don't save the print composer. so it should always be recreate. The project is only a layer or two from the RT-WMS. 2012/11/14 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com: Could you share a sample project. I suppose you're using the Regione Toscana WMS... 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com My print A0 are always with a base map of ortofoto from WMS (using tile option). When try with 1.8.0 is will crash with a messagebox. Using the trunk version sometime the print process will stop without inish the download of all tiles. I guess this is a silent crash of the printer module or of the composer. 2012/11/14 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com: I just asked because I haven't noticed the A0 issue with the trunk... giovanni 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com Both. Usually I try to print firstly with 1.8.0. If it crash , then I try with qgis trunk. Sometime trunk has successful some other time no. 2012/11/14 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com: Are you using qgis from trunk or qgis 1.8? giovanni 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com Hi, When try to plot or export on a pdf an A0 format using the composer. I see sometime the qgis crash. I need to print in A0 few times and so when qgis crash, I simply reduce the quality from 600 dpi to 300 dpi and all go ok. However I like to understand why qgis crash. Infact I read somewhere that it is a memory availability problem. So I like to know if increasing my memory RAM this crash problem could disappeared. Also I need to understand if a 4GB ram that is the maximum ram usable on my window 32 bit. Could be sufficient for a A0 print. Thx, -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print
AFAIK the qgis problem don't save the print composer. so it should always be recreate. ??? It should. It's also used by qgis server to provide print capabilities. Anyway, I'll test it with any RT-WMS, ASAP The project is only a layer or two from the RT-WMS. 2012/11/14 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com: Could you share a sample project. I suppose you're using the Regione Toscana WMS... 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com My print A0 are always with a base map of ortofoto from WMS (using tile option). When try with 1.8.0 is will crash with a messagebox. Using the trunk version sometime the print process will stop without inish the download of all tiles. I guess this is a silent crash of the printer module or of the composer. 2012/11/14 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com: I just asked because I haven't noticed the A0 issue with the trunk... giovanni 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com Both. Usually I try to print firstly with 1.8.0. If it crash , then I try with qgis trunk. Sometime trunk has successful some other time no. 2012/11/14 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com: Are you using qgis from trunk or qgis 1.8? giovanni 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com Hi, When try to plot or export on a pdf an A0 format using the composer. I see sometime the qgis crash. I need to print in A0 few times and so when qgis crash, I simply reduce the quality from 600 dpi to 300 dpi and all go ok. However I like to understand why qgis crash. Infact I read somewhere that it is a memory availability problem. So I like to know if increasing my memory RAM this crash problem could disappeared. Also I need to understand if a 4GB ram that is the maximum ram usable on my window 32 bit. Could be sufficient for a A0 print. Thx, -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - -- - Andrea Peri . . . . . . . . . qwerty àèìòù - ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
