Re: [Qgis-user] ubuntugis-nightly: No providers for GRASS and SAGA in Processing?

2017-10-11 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang 

Hi Jürgen,
thanks for the information!
Bernd

Am 11.10.2017, 00:00 Uhr, schrieb Jürgen E. Fischer :


Hi Bernd,

On Wed, 27. Sep 2017 at 17:14:22 +0200, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

just installed the development version on Ubuntu xenial from
ubuntugis-nightly repository.
In processing, there are only the qgis algos, but no grass nor saga. In  
the

settings, there is nothing shown about them.
Do I miss sth, or are the other providers not included yet?


Not a packaging issue.  saga and grass7 are currently disabled processing
providers (see
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/python/plugins/processing/core/Processing.py#L57
).


Jürgen




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Re: [Qgis-user] ubuntugis-nightly: No providers for GRASS and SAGA in Processing?

2017-10-10 Thread Patrick Dunford 

GRASS7 is listed as a provider in my 17.04 VM running master build 655f121.

Are you using the ubuntugis version of master, the suggestion was based 
on the known issue with ubuntugis libraries not being updated at the 
same time as a new release of 2.18 comes out. If anything this is 
probably even more of an issue with nightly builds of master.


The solution is simply based on being able (potentially) to eliminate 
the need to use the ubuntugis repository whatsoever. If you can then use 
the non-ubuntugis version of master.



On 11/10/17 07:35, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi Patrick,
set up a VM with zesty and QGIS 2.99 from the debian-nightly 
repository WITHOUT ubuntugis.

And ... tada ... no GRASS nor SAGA algos in processing again.
So in which way is this a solution?

Cheers
Bernd

Am 28.09.2017, 10:39 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Dunford 
:


It's simply that you can eliminate the ubuntugis dependency as a 
later release of Ubuntu does not require it. Running Qgis in a Vm is 
also a viable option if you can't change the OS on your computer. I 
run Qgis now in VMs because I can doe 100% of the things that I could 
do natively and I have drawn hundreds of kilometres of production 
maps with the development masters running in Virtualbox desktop VMs.



On 28/09/17 20:19, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote

Hi Pattrick,
sorry, but I do not understand what you are talking about.
I'm running the nightlies of the development version and have the 
ubuntugis-unstable ppa activated.
GRASS and SAGA are present in the ppa and are running individually 
without a problem. They are just not available through QGIS processing.
As the nightlies are built frequently, any changes on ubuntugis 
should be adopted to within a short time. But there are still no 
providers for GRASS and SAGA.
What does this have to do with the version of my OS? All necessary 
sources derive directly from qgis.org or ubuntugis-unstable, as far 
as I can see.


Cheers
Bernd


Am 27.09.2017, 23:12 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Dunford 
:


you can run masters up to 313ec55 (January 2017) without ubuntugis 
on xenial, I use this one all the time as it is stable and reliable 
while I am waiting for some bugs to be fixed in latest masters.


I can see your problem if you want to use the latest master though. 
Mostly I take that option to avoid having to convert my project 
files back to 2.18 having been doing my real life projects on 2.99 
since it first came out.



On 28/09/17 09:57, Patrick Dunford wrote:
Another thread we just talked about this, it's an issue with the 
units not being available in ubuntugis yet


Only xenial and older require ubuntugis for the latest versions, 
if you are running 16.10 or later, or a later debian, these issues 
don't occur.



On 28/09/17 04:14, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi,
just installed the development version on Ubuntu xenial from 
ubuntugis-nightly repository.
In processing, there are only the qgis algos, but no grass nor 
saga. In the settings, there is nothing shown about them.

Do I miss sth, or are the other providers not included yet?

Cheers
Bernd





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Re: [Qgis-user] ubuntugis-nightly: No providers for GRASS and SAGA in Processing?

2017-10-10 Thread Patrick Dunford 
That isn't the experience I have had. The only variant of Ubuntu that 
wouldn't load GRASS I have seen was 16.04 with 2.18.13



On 11/10/17 07:35, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi Patrick,
set up a VM with zesty and QGIS 2.99 from the debian-nightly 
repository WITHOUT ubuntugis.

And ... tada ... no GRASS nor SAGA algos in processing again.
So in which way is this a solution?

Cheers
Bernd

Am 28.09.2017, 10:39 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Dunford 
:


It's simply that you can eliminate the ubuntugis dependency as a 
later release of Ubuntu does not require it. Running Qgis in a Vm is 
also a viable option if you can't change the OS on your computer. I 
run Qgis now in VMs because I can doe 100% of the things that I could 
do natively and I have drawn hundreds of kilometres of production 
maps with the development masters running in Virtualbox desktop VMs.



On 28/09/17 20:19, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote

Hi Pattrick,
sorry, but I do not understand what you are talking about.
I'm running the nightlies of the development version and have the 
ubuntugis-unstable ppa activated.
GRASS and SAGA are present in the ppa and are running individually 
without a problem. They are just not available through QGIS processing.
As the nightlies are built frequently, any changes on ubuntugis 
should be adopted to within a short time. But there are still no 
providers for GRASS and SAGA.
What does this have to do with the version of my OS? All necessary 
sources derive directly from qgis.org or ubuntugis-unstable, as far 
as I can see.


Cheers
Bernd


Am 27.09.2017, 23:12 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Dunford 
:


you can run masters up to 313ec55 (January 2017) without ubuntugis 
on xenial, I use this one all the time as it is stable and reliable 
while I am waiting for some bugs to be fixed in latest masters.


I can see your problem if you want to use the latest master though. 
Mostly I take that option to avoid having to convert my project 
files back to 2.18 having been doing my real life projects on 2.99 
since it first came out.



On 28/09/17 09:57, Patrick Dunford wrote:
Another thread we just talked about this, it's an issue with the 
units not being available in ubuntugis yet


Only xenial and older require ubuntugis for the latest versions, 
if you are running 16.10 or later, or a later debian, these issues 
don't occur.



On 28/09/17 04:14, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi,
just installed the development version on Ubuntu xenial from 
ubuntugis-nightly repository.
In processing, there are only the qgis algos, but no grass nor 
saga. In the settings, there is nothing shown about them.

Do I miss sth, or are the other providers not included yet?

Cheers
Bernd





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Re: [Qgis-user] ubuntugis-nightly: No providers for GRASS and SAGA in Processing?

2017-10-10 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer 
Hi Bernd,

On Wed, 27. Sep 2017 at 17:14:22 +0200, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
> just installed the development version on Ubuntu xenial from
> ubuntugis-nightly repository.
> In processing, there are only the qgis algos, but no grass nor saga. In the
> settings, there is nothing shown about them.
> Do I miss sth, or are the other providers not included yet?

Not a packaging issue.  saga and grass7 are currently disabled processing
providers (see
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/python/plugins/processing/core/Processing.py#L57
).


Jürgen

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Re: [Qgis-user] ubuntugis-nightly: No providers for GRASS and SAGA in Processing?

2017-10-10 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang 

Hi Patrick,
set up a VM with zesty and QGIS 2.99 from the debian-nightly repository  
WITHOUT ubuntugis.

And ... tada ... no GRASS nor SAGA algos in processing again.
So in which way is this a solution?

Cheers
Bernd

Am 28.09.2017, 10:39 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Dunford  
:


It's simply that you can eliminate the ubuntugis dependency as a later  
release of Ubuntu does not require it. Running Qgis in a Vm is also a  
viable option if you can't change the OS on your computer. I run Qgis  
now in VMs because I can doe 100% of the things that I could do natively  
and I have drawn hundreds of kilometres of production maps with the  
development masters running in Virtualbox desktop VMs.



On 28/09/17 20:19, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote

Hi Pattrick,
sorry, but I do not understand what you are talking about.
I'm running the nightlies of the development version and have the  
ubuntugis-unstable ppa activated.
GRASS and SAGA are present in the ppa and are running individually  
without a problem. They are just not available through QGIS processing.
As the nightlies are built frequently, any changes on ubuntugis should  
be adopted to within a short time. But there are still no providers for  
GRASS and SAGA.
What does this have to do with the version of my OS? All necessary  
sources derive directly from qgis.org or ubuntugis-unstable, as far as  
I can see.


Cheers
Bernd


Am 27.09.2017, 23:12 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Dunford  
:


you can run masters up to 313ec55 (January 2017) without ubuntugis on  
xenial, I use this one all the time as it is stable and reliable while  
I am waiting for some bugs to be fixed in latest masters.


I can see your problem if you want to use the latest master though.  
Mostly I take that option to avoid having to convert my project files  
back to 2.18 having been doing my real life projects on 2.99 since it  
first came out.



On 28/09/17 09:57, Patrick Dunford wrote:
Another thread we just talked about this, it's an issue with the  
units not being available in ubuntugis yet


Only xenial and older require ubuntugis for the latest versions, if  
you are running 16.10 or later, or a later debian, these issues don't  
occur.



On 28/09/17 04:14, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi,
just installed the development version on Ubuntu xenial from  
ubuntugis-nightly repository.
In processing, there are only the qgis algos, but no grass nor saga.  
In the settings, there is nothing shown about them.

Do I miss sth, or are the other providers not included yet?

Cheers
Bernd





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Re: [Qgis-user] ubuntugis-nightly: No providers for GRASS and SAGA in Processing?

2017-09-28 Thread Andre Joost 

Am 27.09.2017 um 17:14 schrieb Bernd Vogelgesang:

Hi,
just installed the development version on Ubuntu xenial from
ubuntugis-nightly repository.
In processing, there are only the qgis algos, but no grass nor saga. In
the settings, there is nothing shown about them.
Do I miss sth, or are the other providers not included yet?



Do you get any error messages in the log panel?

I have QGIS 2.18.13 and broken GRASS 7.2.1 installed, the GRASS plugin 
is missing, but my processing contains GRASS 6+7 algos.


So no direct influence with the other GRASS problem.

It might be worth a try using a VM with a more recent Ubuntu distro and 
QGIS nightly (without ubuntugis), and keep QGIS 2.18 in the host OS 
(with or without ubuntugis).


Greetings,
André Joost


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Re: [Qgis-user] ubuntugis-nightly: No providers for GRASS and SAGA in Processing?

2017-09-28 Thread Patrick Dunford 
It's simply that you can eliminate the ubuntugis dependency as a later 
release of Ubuntu does not require it. Running Qgis in a Vm is also a 
viable option if you can't change the OS on your computer. I run Qgis 
now in VMs because I can doe 100% of the things that I could do natively 
and I have drawn hundreds of kilometres of production maps with the 
development masters running in Virtualbox desktop VMs.



On 28/09/17 20:19, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote

Hi Pattrick,
sorry, but I do not understand what you are talking about.
I'm running the nightlies of the development version and have the 
ubuntugis-unstable ppa activated.
GRASS and SAGA are present in the ppa and are running individually 
without a problem. They are just not available through QGIS processing.
As the nightlies are built frequently, any changes on ubuntugis should 
be adopted to within a short time. But there are still no providers 
for GRASS and SAGA.
What does this have to do with the version of my OS? All necessary 
sources derive directly from qgis.org or ubuntugis-unstable, as far as 
I can see.


Cheers
Bernd


Am 27.09.2017, 23:12 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Dunford 
:


you can run masters up to 313ec55 (January 2017) without ubuntugis on 
xenial, I use this one all the time as it is stable and reliable 
while I am waiting for some bugs to be fixed in latest masters.


I can see your problem if you want to use the latest master though. 
Mostly I take that option to avoid having to convert my project files 
back to 2.18 having been doing my real life projects on 2.99 since it 
first came out.



On 28/09/17 09:57, Patrick Dunford wrote:
Another thread we just talked about this, it's an issue with the 
units not being available in ubuntugis yet


Only xenial and older require ubuntugis for the latest versions, if 
you are running 16.10 or later, or a later debian, these issues 
don't occur.



On 28/09/17 04:14, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi,
just installed the development version on Ubuntu xenial from 
ubuntugis-nightly repository.
In processing, there are only the qgis algos, but no grass nor 
saga. In the settings, there is nothing shown about them.

Do I miss sth, or are the other providers not included yet?

Cheers
Bernd





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Re: [Qgis-user] ubuntugis-nightly: No providers for GRASS and SAGA in Processing?

2017-09-28 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang 

Hi Pattrick,
sorry, but I do not understand what you are talking about.
I'm running the nightlies of the development version and have the  
ubuntugis-unstable ppa activated.
GRASS and SAGA are present in the ppa and are running individually without  
a problem. They are just not available through QGIS processing.
As the nightlies are built frequently, any changes on ubuntugis should be  
adopted to within a short time. But there are still no providers for GRASS  
and SAGA.
What does this have to do with the version of my OS? All necessary sources  
derive directly from qgis.org or ubuntugis-unstable, as far as I can see.


Cheers
Bernd


Am 27.09.2017, 23:12 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Dunford  
:


you can run masters up to 313ec55 (January 2017) without ubuntugis on  
xenial, I use this one all the time as it is stable and reliable while I  
am waiting for some bugs to be fixed in latest masters.


I can see your problem if you want to use the latest master though.  
Mostly I take that option to avoid having to convert my project files  
back to 2.18 having been doing my real life projects on 2.99 since it  
first came out.



On 28/09/17 09:57, Patrick Dunford wrote:
Another thread we just talked about this, it's an issue with the units  
not being available in ubuntugis yet


Only xenial and older require ubuntugis for the latest versions, if you  
are running 16.10 or later, or a later debian, these issues don't occur.



On 28/09/17 04:14, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi,
just installed the development version on Ubuntu xenial from  
ubuntugis-nightly repository.
In processing, there are only the qgis algos, but no grass nor saga.  
In the settings, there is nothing shown about them.

Do I miss sth, or are the other providers not included yet?

Cheers
Bernd





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Re: [Qgis-user] ubuntugis-nightly: No providers for GRASS and SAGA in Processing?

2017-09-27 Thread Patrick Dunford 
you can run masters up to 313ec55 (January 2017) without ubuntugis on 
xenial, I use this one all the time as it is stable and reliable while I 
am waiting for some bugs to be fixed in latest masters.


I can see your problem if you want to use the latest master though. 
Mostly I take that option to avoid having to convert my project files 
back to 2.18 having been doing my real life projects on 2.99 since it 
first came out.



On 28/09/17 09:57, Patrick Dunford wrote:
Another thread we just talked about this, it's an issue with the units 
not being available in ubuntugis yet


Only xenial and older require ubuntugis for the latest versions, if 
you are running 16.10 or later, or a later debian, these issues don't 
occur.



On 28/09/17 04:14, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi,
just installed the development version on Ubuntu xenial from 
ubuntugis-nightly repository.
In processing, there are only the qgis algos, but no grass nor saga. 
In the settings, there is nothing shown about them.

Do I miss sth, or are the other providers not included yet?

Cheers
Bernd





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Re: [Qgis-user] ubuntugis-nightly: No providers for GRASS and SAGA in Processing?

2017-09-27 Thread Patrick Dunford 
Another thread we just talked about this, it's an issue with the units 
not being available in ubuntugis yet


Only xenial and older require ubuntugis for the latest versions, if you 
are running 16.10 or later, or a later debian, these issues don't occur.



On 28/09/17 04:14, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi,
just installed the development version on Ubuntu xenial from 
ubuntugis-nightly repository.
In processing, there are only the qgis algos, but no grass nor saga. 
In the settings, there is nothing shown about them.

Do I miss sth, or are the other providers not included yet?

Cheers
Bernd



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[Qgis-user] ubuntugis-nightly: No providers for GRASS and SAGA in Processing?

2017-09-27 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang 

Hi,
just installed the development version on Ubuntu xenial from  
ubuntugis-nightly repository.
In processing, there are only the qgis algos, but no grass nor saga. In  
the settings, there is nothing shown about them.

Do I miss sth, or are the other providers not included yet?

Cheers
Bernd

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