Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else?

2015-08-04 Thread Enrique
Summing up my experience with GTIF orthoimages, based on suggestions from
other users, if someone is interested in:

- GTIF with internal JPEG compression + internal pyramids/overviews also
with JPEG compression (see a. and b. commands below as examples).
- As you said, required GDAL compiled with ECW (FWTools on Windows, for
example).


GDAL commands:

a. Reading ECW and compressing to JPG (set your favourite quality, 80 is a
good choice for orthoimages; also CACHEMAX could be increased):

gdal_translate --config GDAL_CACHEMAX 1000 --config GDAL_PAM_ENABLED NO -of
GTIFF -co COMPRESS=JPEG -co JPEG_QUALITY=80 -co PHOTOMETRIC=YCBCR
source_image.ecw target_image.tif

b. Adding internal pyramids/overviews with JPG compression (select your
resampling method, I prefer average):

gdaladdo --config COMPRESS_OVERVIEW JPEG --config PHOTOMETRIC_OVERVIEW
YCBCR --config INTERLEAVE_OVERVIEW PIXEL -r average image.tif 2 4 8 16 32
64 128


I'm using a batch script on Windows, useful to be applied to a set of
selected images on File explorer. I hope it's easy to write a script in
bash or python, if you are able to install ECW support on GNU/Linux.

Unfortunatly, a lot of public images are locked in ECW format (for example
our orthoimages at Spanish National Geographic Institute (IGN) [1
http://www.ign.es/atom/dataset_feeds/_pnoaMA.es.xml]), but I know they
are doing an effort to release them as GTIF, could be with internal JPEG.

Enrique.

[1 http://www.ign.es/atom/dataset_feeds/_pnoaMA.es.xml]
http://www.ign.es/atom/dataset_feeds/_pnoaMA.es.xml



2015-08-04 5:45 GMT+02:00 Simon Cropper cont...@simonchristophercropper.com
:

 Hello,

 I have recently tried to get QGIS to work with ECW files.

 Despite several days of multiple
 installs/reinstalls/uninstalls/lib-upgrades/etc I have not managed to get
 ECW to be opened by QGIS. This is really frustrating as I am keen to use
 QGIS on an upcoming project.

 As an alternative, I would like to pose the following couple of
 questions...

 My first question is, what is a good alternative to ECW files for use on
 QGIS?

 The second question, how do I convert the ECW file into this format
 without using a propriety software package?

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Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else?

2015-08-04 Thread Andre Joost

Am 04.08.2015 um 06:20 schrieb Nathan Woodrow:

Mainly because on windows the package is all standalone and ECW is included
in that package. So you just install and it should just work out of the
box.  I have had working ECW support since 1.8 or before, only a small time
at 2.0 where we (us developers) got a bit confused with the WCW licence but
that was cleared up by ERDAS and it's worked out of the box ever since.
The same should be for Linux but I suspect the package systems add some
complication to that.



Yes, it is mostly a packaging problem. The ubuntugis unstable repository 
contains an ecw package that works with GDAL 1.10 up to Ubuntu 13.04. 
Until now, nobody managed to build it for GDAL 1.11 and newer ubuntugis 
releases.


It was already asked on the gdal-dev and ubuntugis mailing lists:

http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/gdal-dev-Issues-building-ECW-JP2ECW-driver-as-a-plugin-on-Ubuntu-td5156322.html

http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ubuntu/2014-August/001154.html

but unfortuantely noone could give a better workflow than my workaround 
(which works for 14.04, but does not add python support).


Greetings,
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Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else?

2015-08-04 Thread Steve Golden
If you have access to Windows XP and can install GDAL, gdal_translate is the
way to go to convert ECW to something else and GeoTIFF should be on your
list for that something else.  There are a lot of webpages out there with
sample gdal_translate commands, but I recommend reading about  GeoTIFF
compression
http://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2015/02/geotiff-compression-for-dummies.html  
from a very good source.

-Steve



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Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else?

2015-08-04 Thread Enrique
As recommended by Paul Ramsey, tiled schema is a better option, so I add it
to gdal_translate command.

Thanks!


a. Reading ECW and compressing to JPG (set your favourite quality, 80 is a
good choice for orthoimages; also CACHEMAX could be increased):

gdal_translate --config GDAL_CACHEMAX 1000 --config GDAL_PAM_ENABLED NO -of
GTIFF -co COMPRESS=JPEG -co TILED=YES -co JPEG_QUALITY=80 -co
PHOTOMETRIC=YCBCR source_image.ecw target_image.tif

b. Adding internal pyramids/overviews with JPG compression (select your
resampling method, I prefer average):

gdaladdo --config COMPRESS_OVERVIEW JPEG --config PHOTOMETRIC_OVERVIEW
YCBCR --config INTERLEAVE_OVERVIEW PIXEL -r average image.tif 2 4 8 16 32
64 128


2015-08-04 17:23 GMT+02:00 Steve Golden stevenlgol...@gmail.com:

 If you have access to Windows XP and can install GDAL, gdal_translate is
 the
 way to go to convert ECW to something else and GeoTIFF should be on your
 list for that something else.  There are a lot of webpages out there with
 sample gdal_translate commands, but I recommend reading about  GeoTIFF
 compression
 
 http://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2015/02/geotiff-compression-for-dummies.html
 
 from a very good source.

 -Steve



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Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else? [ANSWERED]

2015-08-04 Thread Simon Cropper


Thanks everyone.

I got the message GeoTiff is the preferred alternative file format to 
ECW and gdal on Windows the method of converting the ECW to GeoTiff.


It's lucky I still have access to a Windows machine :-D but wonder what 
I would do if I only had access to Linux :-\


Again, thanks for the timely responses

On 05/08/15 07:29, Enrique wrote:
As recommended by Paul Ramsey, tiled schema is a better option, so I 
add it to gdal_translate command.


Thanks!


a. Reading ECW and compressing to JPG (set your favourite quality, 80 
is a good choice for orthoimages; also CACHEMAX could be increased):


gdal_translate --config GDAL_CACHEMAX 1000 --config GDAL_PAM_ENABLED 
NO -of GTIFF -co COMPRESS=JPEG -co TILED=YES -co JPEG_QUALITY=80 -co 
PHOTOMETRIC=YCBCR source_image.ecw target_image.tif


b. Adding internal pyramids/overviews with JPG compression (select 
your resampling method, I prefer average):


gdaladdo --config COMPRESS_OVERVIEW JPEG --config PHOTOMETRIC_OVERVIEW 
YCBCR --config INTERLEAVE_OVERVIEW PIXEL -r average image.tif 2 4 8 
16 32 64 128



2015-08-04 17:23 GMT+02:00 Steve Golden stevenlgol...@gmail.com 
mailto:stevenlgol...@gmail.com:


If you have access to Windows XP and can install GDAL,
gdal_translate is the
way to go to convert ECW to something else and GeoTIFF should be
on your
list for that something else.  There are a lot of webpages out
there with
sample gdal_translate commands, but I recommend reading about  GeoTIFF
compression
http://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2015/02/geotiff-compression-for-dummies.html
from a very good source.

-Steve



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Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else?

2015-08-03 Thread Andre Joost

Am 04.08.2015 um 05:45 schrieb Simon Cropper:



My first question is, what is a good alternative to ECW files for use on
QGIS?


Geotiff should always work on QGIS. BTW, write support for ECW is still 
limited without a license.




The second question, how do I convert the ECW file into this format
without using a propriety software package?


Ubuntugis still holds ecw packages for GDAL 1.10 on raring, quantal, 
precise and lucid. So you can set up a virtual box inside your OS with 
one of those ubuntu versions, and install GDAL 1.10 with ECW support 
inside it to convert ecw files to Geotiff format. Data exchange between 
the virtual box and your host OS is possible with shared folders.


HTH,
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Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else?

2015-08-03 Thread Nathan Woodrow
OK ECW support should work out of the box on WIndows if you are able to use
that.  I have never really tied on Linux so can't help there.

Regards,
Nathan

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Simon Cropper 
cont...@simonchristophercropper.com wrote:

 On 04/08/15 14:05, Nathan Woodrow wrote:

 Is this for Windows or another platform?


 Ubuntu 14.04 although I have access to Windows Vista and XP.


 Regards,

 On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Simon Cropper 
 cont...@simonchristophercropper.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I have recently tried to get QGIS to work with ECW files.

 Despite several days of multiple
 installs/reinstalls/uninstalls/lib-upgrades/etc I have not managed to get
 ECW to be opened by QGIS. This is really frustrating as I am keen to use
 QGIS on an upcoming project.

 As an alternative, I would like to pose the following couple of
 questions...

 My first question is, what is a good alternative to ECW files for use on
 QGIS?

 The second question, how do I convert the ECW file into this format
 without using a propriety software package?

 --
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Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else?

2015-08-03 Thread Simon Cropper


 should work out of the box on WIndows

Why would this be the case -- the licence agreement applies to Linux as 
much as Windows. Does your version support ECW files? Use gdalinfo to 
see supported raster formats. What does it report?


On 04/08/15 14:09, Nathan Woodrow wrote:
OK ECW support should work out of the box on WIndows if you are able 
to use that.  I have never really tied on Linux so can't help there.


Regards,
Nathan

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Simon Cropper 
cont...@simonchristophercropper.com 
mailto:cont...@simonchristophercropper.com wrote:


On 04/08/15 14:05, Nathan Woodrow wrote:

Is this for Windows or another platform?


Ubuntu 14.04 although I have access to Windows Vista and XP.



Regards,

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Simon Cropper
cont...@simonchristophercropper.com
mailto:cont...@simonchristophercropper.com wrote:

Hello,

I have recently tried to get QGIS to work with ECW files.

Despite several days of multiple
installs/reinstalls/uninstalls/lib-upgrades/etc I have not
managed to get ECW to be opened by QGIS. This is really
frustrating as I am keen to use QGIS on an upcoming project.

As an alternative, I would like to pose the following couple
of questions...

My first question is, what is a good alternative to ECW files
for use on QGIS?

The second question, how do I convert the ECW file into this
format without using a propriety software package?

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Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else?

2015-08-03 Thread Simon Cropper

On 04/08/15 14:05, Nathan Woodrow wrote:

Is this for Windows or another platform?


Ubuntu 14.04 although I have access to Windows Vista and XP.



Regards,

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Simon Cropper 
cont...@simonchristophercropper.com 
mailto:cont...@simonchristophercropper.com wrote:


Hello,

I have recently tried to get QGIS to work with ECW files.

Despite several days of multiple
installs/reinstalls/uninstalls/lib-upgrades/etc I have not managed
to get ECW to be opened by QGIS. This is really frustrating as I
am keen to use QGIS on an upcoming project.

As an alternative, I would like to pose the following couple of
questions...

My first question is, what is a good alternative to ECW files for
use on QGIS?

The second question, how do I convert the ECW file into this
format without using a propriety software package?

-- 
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Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else?

2015-08-03 Thread Simon Cropper

On 04/08/15 13:59, Nicolas Cadieux wrote:


Hi,
You could use gdal  translate directly I imagine and try to figure out 
why it's not working from there.  I would use a tiff format. Have you 
tried on another computer?


http://www.gdal.org/gdal_translate.html



Gdal will only work if it is pre-compiled with ECW support. I have spend 
a couple of days already trying to source or build a version of gdal 
that 'see' ecw files.



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Hello,

I have recently tried to get QGIS to work with ECW files.

Despite several days of multiple
installs/reinstalls/uninstalls/lib-upgrades/etc I have not managed
to get ECW to be opened by QGIS. This is really frustrating as I
am keen to use QGIS on an upcoming project.

As an alternative, I would like to pose the following couple of
questions...

My first question is, what is a good alternative to ECW files for
use on QGIS?

The second question, how do I convert the ECW file into this
format without using a propriety software package?

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Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else?

2015-08-03 Thread Nicolas Cadieux
Hi, 
Have you ask for help on the gdal user or developer lists?nbsp; They have help 
me in the past.nbsp; If you can't get it to work in Linux, you should try it 
in a Windows virtual machine.nbsp;nbsp; Not the best option but it would 
probably work. 
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  Hi, 
You could use gdal  translate directly I imagine and try to
figure out why it#39;s not working from there.  I would use a tiff
format. Have you tried on another computer? 
  http://www.gdal.org/gdal_translate.html 


Gdal will only work if it is pre-compiled with ECW support. I have
spend a couple of days already trying to source or build a version
of gdal that #39;see#39; ecw files. 


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2015-08-03 Thread Nicolas Cadieux
Hi, 
You could use gdalnbsp; translate directly I imagine and try to figure out why 
it's not working from there.nbsp; I would use a tiff format. Have you tried on 
another computer? 
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Hello, 

I have recently tried to get QGIS to work with ECW files. 

Despite several days of multiple
installs/reinstalls/uninstalls/lib-upgrades/etc I have not managed
to get ECW to be opened by QGIS. This is really frustrating as I am
keen to use QGIS on an upcoming project. 

As an alternative, I would like to pose the following couple of
questions... 

My first question is, what is a good alternative to ECW files for
use on QGIS? 

The second question, how do I convert the ECW file into this format
without using a propriety software package? 

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Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else?

2015-08-03 Thread Simon Cropper

On 04/08/15 13:58, Andre Joost wrote:

Am 04.08.2015 um 05:45 schrieb Simon Cropper:



My first question is, what is a good alternative to ECW files for use on
QGIS?


Geotiff should always work on QGIS. BTW, write support for ECW is 
still limited without a license.




OK. GeoTiff sound good.



The second question, how do I convert the ECW file into this format
without using a propriety software package?


Ubuntugis still holds ecw packages for GDAL 1.10 on raring, quantal, 
precise and lucid. So you can set up a virtual box inside your OS with 
one of those ubuntu versions, and install GDAL 1.10 with ECW support 
inside it to convert ecw files to Geotiff format. Data exchange 
between the virtual box and your host OS is possible with shared folders.


OK. Thanks.



HTH,
André Joost


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Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else?

2015-08-03 Thread Nathan Woodrow
Is this for Windows or another platform?

Regards,

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Simon Cropper 
cont...@simonchristophercropper.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I have recently tried to get QGIS to work with ECW files.

 Despite several days of multiple
 installs/reinstalls/uninstalls/lib-upgrades/etc I have not managed to get
 ECW to be opened by QGIS. This is really frustrating as I am keen to use
 QGIS on an upcoming project.

 As an alternative, I would like to pose the following couple of
 questions...

 My first question is, what is a good alternative to ECW files for use on
 QGIS?

 The second question, how do I convert the ECW file into this format
 without using a propriety software package?

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Re: [Qgis-user] How to convert ECW using open source packages into something else?

2015-08-03 Thread Nathan Woodrow
Mainly because on windows the package is all standalone and ECW is included
in that package. So you just install and it should just work out of the
box.  I have had working ECW support since 1.8 or before, only a small time
at 2.0 where we (us developers) got a bit confused with the WCW licence but
that was cleared up by ERDAS and it's worked out of the box ever since.
The same should be for Linux but I suspect the package systems add some
complication to that.

- Nathan

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Simon Cropper 
cont...@simonchristophercropper.com wrote:


  should work out of the box on WIndows

 Why would this be the case -- the licence agreement applies to Linux as
 much as Windows. Does your version support ECW files? Use gdalinfo to see
 supported raster formats. What does it report?


 On 04/08/15 14:09, Nathan Woodrow wrote:

 OK ECW support should work out of the box on WIndows if you are able to
 use that.  I have never really tied on Linux so can't help there.

 Regards,
 Nathan

 On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Simon Cropper 
 cont...@simonchristophercropper.com wrote:

 On 04/08/15 14:05, Nathan Woodrow wrote:

 Is this for Windows or another platform?


 Ubuntu 14.04 although I have access to Windows Vista and XP.


 Regards,

 On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Simon Cropper 
 cont...@simonchristophercropper.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I have recently tried to get QGIS to work with ECW files.

 Despite several days of multiple
 installs/reinstalls/uninstalls/lib-upgrades/etc I have not managed to get
 ECW to be opened by QGIS. This is really frustrating as I am keen to use
 QGIS on an upcoming project.

 As an alternative, I would like to pose the following couple of
 questions...

 My first question is, what is a good alternative to ECW files for use on
 QGIS?

 The second question, how do I convert the ECW file into this format
 without using a propriety software package?

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