Re: [ql-users] Some Newbie Hardware Questions

2006-01-10 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 20:11:38, Paul Holmgren wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

>Tony Firshman wrote:
>
>>On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 13:22:56, David Tubbs wrote:
>>(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
>>
>>
>>
And this 'Noise' problem was the reason for the popularity in the
USA of the "Bent" modifications to the QL's.
  
>one of the 'mods'  was the jumpering of the 5V line with 24 or 22 gauge
>wire.
>the Idea I recall was to reduce the foil trace resistance and the tie-in
>points were also effectively
>shortening the total path the 5V took to get to the farther point it
>anchored to
>( this is off the top of the brains long term memory that is not burned
>out yet )
>seems I recall it took a path that was over 12" to a path that was maybe
>only 7"-8"
>and because the capacity of the wire exceeded the trace it was deemed
>beneficial.
That was also done by Sinclair on later boards - from 5V to the RAM 
area.
It was a pity that multi-layer board were not available then.

Gold Card, superGoldCard, Aurora (and Mplane) have inner layers for 
power and ground (mainly).

Tony

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Re: [ql-users] Some Newbie Hardware Questions

2006-01-10 Thread Paul Holmgren
Tony Firshman wrote:

>On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 13:22:56, David Tubbs wrote:
>(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
>
>  
>
>>>And this 'Noise' problem was the reason for the popularity in the
>>>USA of the "Bent" modifications to the QL's.
>>>  
>>>
>>So, I wonder, from this side of the pond, what was a "Bent" mod'.
>>
>>
>It is the expansion that crashes, not the motherboard in these cases.
>The 'Bent' mods were to the motherboard, and will not help the
>daisy-chained expansion much I think.
>
>Tony
>
one of the 'mods'  was the jumpering of the 5V line with 24 or 22 gauge 
wire.
the Idea I recall was to reduce the foil trace resistance and the tie-in 
points were also effectively
shortening the total path the 5V took to get to the farther point it 
anchored to
( this is off the top of the brains long term memory that is not burned 
out yet )
seems I recall it took a path that was over 12" to a path that was maybe 
only 7"-8"
and because the capacity of the wire exceeded the trace it was deemed 
beneficial.

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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Tony Firshman wrote:
> JG:
> And a bow tie??
>
> TF:
> No - that would be:
>
> (8-)##

Excuse me for interrupting this highly interesting conversation, but
I'm curious, by what accident did you lose your ability to quote
correctly? I certainly hope nobody else was injured in it ;-)

Marcel

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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 22:26:30, John Gilpin wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Phoebus R. Dokos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots


>  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:56:02 -0500,() gwicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:
>
> 
>>
>> One thing that has always fascinated me is Tony's mails. Sometimes at
the
>> end of a paragraph I get I get (8-)#. I am not sure what it means.
>>
>
> It means: Balding Gentleman with Glasses and Beard Smiling
>
JG:
And a bow tie??

TF:
No - that would be:

(8-)##

Tony


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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 19:56:02, gwicks wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)


>One thing that has always fascinated me is Tony's mails. Sometimes at the
>end of a paragraph I get I get (8-)#. I am not sure what it means.
he he.
I will be lost for a smiley if I ever wear a wig, cut off my beard and
use contact lenses.

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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread John Gilpin

- Original Message - 
From: "Phoebus R. Dokos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots


> Την Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:56:02 -0500,ο(η) gwicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> έγραψε:
>
> 
>>
>> One thing that has always fascinated me is Tony's mails. Sometimes at the
>> end of a paragraph I get I get (8-)#. I am not sure what it means.
>>
>
> It means: Balding Gentleman with Glasses and Beard Smiling
>
And a bow tie??
John Gilpin.

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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, gwicks 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

>One thing that has always fascinated me is Tony's mails. Sometimes at the
>end of a paragraph I get I get (8-)#. I am not sure what it means.

I believe that it is Tony's way of a "smiley" ... that is a smiley with 
glasses and a beard.

So, more of a portrait of Tony ... :-)

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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
Την Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:56:02 -0500,ο(η) gwicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> έγραψε:


>
> One thing that has always fascinated me is Tony's mails. Sometimes at the
> end of a paragraph I get I get (8-)#. I am not sure what it means.
>

It means: Balding Gentleman with Glasses and Beard Smiling


Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] QPC Print - Document CD

2006-01-10 Thread gwicks

- Original Message - 
From: "Malcolm Cadman"
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection, QPC2 and QPC Print


> Could be worth collating all this information that is coming through
> about printer drivers for publication in the Quanta magazine ... it is
> an issue that seems to exercise everyone.
>

This is a good way of raising a matter that Jochen and I had already decided 
to sound out in the group.

We have had a request from a QL Today reader for a QPC Print troubleshooting 
article. We would really like to do this, but we have a problem that neither 
us have had much experience of QPC Print problems. Jochen has had just two 
requests for help and I have received only one via Quanta. I also offered to 
organise troubleshooting sessions at both the Eindhoven International and 
the Portsmouth QL is 21 shows last year, but not a single person reacted.

In general I have the impression that QPC Print has been a remarkably 
trouble free program.

We would like to hear from anyone who has had a comment to make, either over 
installation or use. Have people who used to use HP codes had problems 
switching over to Epson?

Also we would like to hear about any modifications you have had to make to 
printer drivers to get then to run under QPC Print. Obviously one area that 
needs attention is printing from Archive, but I don't know of any others.

Please send any comments direct to QL Today using the email address inside 
the front cover.

On the separate matter, Dilwyn need not apologise for faults in the QL 
Documentation CD. It has been very much appreciated by the readers and there 
is so much information on it that it was inevitable there would be a few 
faults.

Can I just add that there was no work for me in producing the CD? All the 
hard work was done by Dilwyn, Jochen and Roy.  (Just think of how much time 
it took to copy a CD for every reader!) As far as Roy is concerned I don't 
think people always realise how much work there is for him on the 
distribution side of QL Today. Also thanks to Bruce Nicholls who proof reads 
every issue,

Best Wishes,

Geoff


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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread gwicks

- Original Message - 
From: "Marcel Kilgus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots


> Tony Firshman wrote:
>> Hope the last bit comes out OK. It makes a change from all that Greek!
>> Nope.  I see you sent UTF-8.
>> These chrs did not display correctly in Jedit - which works with UTF8.
>> I suspect it was all mangled in transit.
>
> It didn't come out quite right on my side either (not sure why), but
> http://www.mail-archive.com/ql-users%40lists.q-v-d.com/msg00542.html
> shows it okay.
>

My experience of mixed English and Japanese texts is that the Japanese often 
does not appear correctly. Probably because of auto-converting. This is no 
problem with a webpage as it is easily corrected, but not sure how to do it 
with an email. Of course, with oriental languages you would have to have 
suitable character sets installed on your machine.

I have a similar experience with Phoebus' greek - sometimes it reproduces 
correctly and sometimes not. In general I have few problems with foreign 
character sets on my emails.

One thing that has always fascinated me is Tony's mails. Sometimes at the 
end of a paragraph I get I get (8-)#. I am not sure what it means.

It was, of course, mischievous of me to send a message in unicode. It is 
better to send only in ASCII,

Best Wishes,

Geoff 


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Re: [ql-users] *** Test *** English - Español - Français - *** Test ***

2006-01-10 Thread David Tubbs
At 18:31 10/01/2006 +0100, you wrote:

>On 10 Jan 2006 at 12:05, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:
>
> >
> > How does THIS look?
> >
> > *** Test *** English -  Español -  Français -  *** Test ***
> >
> >  - Ffibys - Phoebus - Phébus
>
>
>Fine here.
Here to when via Wolfgang, but direct from Phoebe just garbage.

On the plus side, the last 6 Dokos msgs with real name !

Along the way it looks as tho' Tony's TP does NOT append a quote marker.


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Re: [ql-users] Job ID

2006-01-10 Thread P Witte
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:

> Hi all,
> 
> Offhand, does somebody remember whether there is a basic keyword
> that returns the job ID of a named job
> 
> (eg. result = job_id('my_job_name') )

1000 DEFine FuNction JobID(jn$)
1010 LOCal loop, n
1020 n = 0
1030 REPeat loop
1040  n = NXJOB(n, 0)
1050  IF (jn$ INSTR JOB$(n)) = 1 OR n = 0: RETurn n
1060 END REPeat loop
1070 END DEFine
1080 :

For SMSQ/E or QDOS + TK2

Per

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Re: [ql-users] Job ID

2006-01-10 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Not in TK2, maybe in DJToolkit or TinyToolkit. I remember an extension like 
JOBID, but don't know, where.

Cheers...Ralf R.

- Original Message - 
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Job ID


> Hi all,
>
> Offhand, does somebody remember whether there is a basic keyword
> that returns the job ID of a named job
>
> (eg. result = job_id('my_job_name') )
>
> TIA!
>
> Wolfgang
> 
> www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com
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Re: [ql-users] Problems with printing under XChange Archive

2006-01-10 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Paper is set to Fanfold (of course), for all pages.

Cheers...Ralf R.

- Original Message - 
From: "Wolfgang Lenerz"
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Problems with printing under XChange Archive


On 10 Jan 2006 at 19:06, Ralf Reköndt wrote:

> No,
>
> that doesn't work. In this case, the program just prints one line per 
> page!

Darn I thought that was it.

Have you tried to change the paper type to fanfold?
Sometimes, this would not print an FF at all.
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Re: [ql-users] Job ID

2006-01-10 Thread François Van Emelen
Wolfgang Lenerz schreef:
> Hi all,
> 
> Offhand, does somebody remember whether there is a basic keyword
> that returns the job ID of a named job
> 
> (eg. result = job_id('my_job_name') )
> 
> TIA!
> 
> Wolfgang
Hi Wolfgang,
'Job_id' can be found in your own 'outptr_bin' :)

François Van Emelen

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Re: [ql-users] Problems with printing under XChange Archive

2006-01-10 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 10 Jan 2006 at 19:06, Ralf Reköndt wrote:

> No,
> 
> that doesn't work. In this case, the program just prints one line per page!

Darn I thought that was it.

Have you tried to change the paper type to fanfold?
Sometimes, this would not print an FF at all.
Wolfgang

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Re: [ql-users] Job ID

2006-01-10 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Hi all,

Offhand, does somebody remember whether there is a basic keyword
that returns the job ID of a named job

(eg. result = job_id('my_job_name') )

TIA!

Wolfgang

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Re: [ql-users] Job ID

2006-01-10 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Hi all,

Offhand, does somebody remember whether there is a basic keyword
that returns the job ID of a named job

(eg. result = job_id('my_job_name') )

TIA!

Wolfgang

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Re: [ql-users] Problems with printing under XChange Archive

2006-01-10 Thread Ralf Reköndt
No,

that doesn't work. In this case, the program just prints one line per page!

Cheers...Ralf R.

BTW: printing is done under QPCprint.

- Original Message - 
From: "Wolfgang Lenerz"
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Problems with printing under XChange Archive


On 10 Jan 2006 at 18:29, Ralf Reköndt wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a terrible problem with printing under XChange Archive:

(...)

Try setting the number of lines to 0.

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Re: [ql-users] Problems with printing under XChange Archive

2006-01-10 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 10 Jan 2006 at 18:29, Ralf Reköndt wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I have a terrible problem with printing under XChange Archive:

(...)

Try setting the number of lines to 0.

Wolfgang

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Re: [ql-users] *** Test *** English - Español - Français - *** Test ***

2006-01-10 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 10 Jan 2006 at 12:05, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:

> 
> How does THIS look?
> 
> *** Test *** English -  Español -  Français -  *** Test ***
> 
>  - Ffibys - Phoebus - Phébus


Fine here.

Wolfgang

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[ql-users] Problems with printing under XChange Archive

2006-01-10 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Hi all,

I have a terrible problem with printing under XChange Archive:

As far as I remember, ArchRTM and Archive v2.38 do ignore the number of 
lines per page setting in the printer_dat and awaites the running program to 
do that by itself.

XChange (the recent one), does not seem to behave so. The program I use, 
calculate the possible lines per page (they can be different, depending how 
much is printed!), then FF. But there is another FF, depending on the length 
set in the archv_dat. Is this a known bug in XChange? If I set the number of 
lines per page to 255 all works well, untill 255 lines are reached (same 
with other settings). Then there is another FF from the archv_dat. I haven't 
found out a way to let the archv_dat ignore the set number of lines per page 
or Archive to ignore the FF from archv_dat. Postamble ist set to NONE!

Any cure for that problem? Or should I use the program with Archive v2.38? 
Maybe someone can supply Archive v2.38 to me, I can't find it at the moment.

Cheers...Ralf R. 

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Re: [ql-users] *** Test *** English - Español - Fran = ?utf-8?b?w6dhaXMgLSDOlc67zrvOt869zrnOus6sICoqKiBUZXN 0ICoqKg==?=

2006-01-10 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 12:05:01, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

>
>How does THIS look?

>*** Test *** English -  Español -  Français -  *** Test ***
All OK bar Greek.
TP recognises UTF8 but sections it off as 'undisplayable'

> - Ffibys - Phoebus - Phébus

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Re: [ql-users] Some Newbie Hardware Questions

2006-01-10 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 12:00:46, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

PD:

Actually there's mandatory earth in every socket installed/sold in the
US.
That is the third hole underneath the two "blade" style slots.
For reference: Wide "Slot" = Neutral, Narrow "Slot" = Live, Round Hole:
Earth. Also on US two conductor power cables.
PD:
Smooth jacket = Live / Ribbed jacket = Neutral
TF:

Very few in any of the old sockets I have seen.
It is not universal 'in the field' I think.

The law is recent I thing. I have only visited old houses, and I did not
notice what you had in your house.


Tony




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Re: [ql-users] *** Test *** Engl ish - Español - Français - Ελλ ηνικά *** Test ***

2006-01-10 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Looks all correct here!

- Original Message - 
From: "Phoebus R. Dokos"
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:05 PM
Subject: [ql-users] *** Test *** English - Español - Français - Ελληνικά *** 
Test ***


>
> How does THIS look?
>
> *** Test *** English -  Español -  Français - Ελληνικά *** Test ***
>
> Φοίβος - Ffibys - Phoebus - Phébus 

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Re: [ql-users] Some Newbie Hardware Questions

2006-01-10 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 12:01:52, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

>Ôçí Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:52:45 -0500,ï(ç) Tony Firshman
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ýãñáøå:

>> On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 16:23:47, Tony Firshman wrote:
>> (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
>>

>Hmmm... I will try UTF-8 then to see what happens..

>Watch for the next message

Help no (8-)#

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[ql-users] *** Test *** English - Español - Fran çais - Ελληνικά *** Test ***

2006-01-10 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos

How does THIS look?

*** Test *** English -  Español -  Français - Ελληνικά *** Test ***

Φοίβος - Ffibys - Phoebus - Phébus
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Re: [ql-users] Some Newbie Hardware Questions

2006-01-10 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
Την Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:52:45 -0500,ο(η) Tony Firshman  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> έγραψε:

> On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 16:23:47, Tony Firshman wrote:
> (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
>

Hmmm... I will try UTF-8 then to see what happens..

Watch for the next message

Ffibys
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Re: [ql-users] Some Newbie Hardware Questions

2006-01-10 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
Την Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:23:47 -0500,ο(η) Tony Firshman  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> έγραψε:


>>
>
> PD:
> Wouldn't work IIRC. US Current is rated [EMAIL PROTECTED] whereas Tony's
> solution was for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Oh yes they would in exactly the same way as UK.
> 240 -> 110  - OK
> 110 -> 240  - Not OK

In that case I should get me a couple :-) (Only one converter needed...  
 From UK Socket to US Socket) - I do have UK Plugs in abundance (most of  
them say "Commodore" on them too... God knows where I unearthed them  
from... I can't remember)
>
> ... but it would need a US plug fitted, and connection to an earthed
> socket (usually only in the kitchen) and an army of UK -> US converters
> (8-)#
>
> I must say I find the lack of earth in the majority of US sockets
> terrible.  It is fine and safe, of course, for most ordinary stuff, but
> absolutely hopeless for computer equipment.


Actually there's mandatory earth in every socket installed/sold in the US.
That is the third hole underneath the two "blade" style slots.
For reference: Wide "Slot" = Neutral, Narrow "Slot" = Live, Round Hole:  
Earth. Also on US two conductor power cables.
Smooth jacket = Live / Ribbed jacket = Neutral



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Re: [ql-users] Some Newbie Hardware Questions

2006-01-10 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 16:23:47, Tony Firshman wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

Oh dear - mangled again!
I will have to give up replying to you Phoebus.
This time end of lines have been filtered out!
>On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 10:41:10, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:
>(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
>
>>Ôçí Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:22:56 -0500,ï(ç) David Tubbs
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ýãñáøå:
>
>>>

 And this 'Noise' problem was the reason for the popularity in the
 USA of the "Bent" modifications to the QL's.
>>>
>> So, I wonder, from this side of the pond, what was a "Bent" mod'.
>>
>> Was Tony not distributing his smoothing adaptors in the States ?
>Surely
>> the
>> simplest solution ?
>>
>
>PD:
>Wouldn't work IIRC. US Current is rated [EMAIL PROTECTED] whereas Tony's
>solution was for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TF:
>Oh yes they would in exactly the same way as UK.
>240 -> 110  - OK
>110 -> 240  - Not OK
>
>... but it would need a US plug fitted, and connection to an earthed
>socket (usually only in the kitchen) and an army of UK -> US converters
>(8-)#
>
>I must say I find the lack of earth in the majority of US sockets
>terrible.  It is fine and safe, of course, for most ordinary stuff, but
>absolutely hopeless for computer equipment.  There are two spike filters
>to earth in all good filters (like Computer Cleaners).
Tony (again!)
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Re: [ql-users] Some Newbie Hardware Questions

2006-01-10 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 10:41:10, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

>Ôçí Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:22:56 -0500,ï(ç) David Tubbs
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ýãñáøå:

>>
>>>
>>> And this 'Noise' problem was the reason for the popularity in the
>>> USA of the "Bent" modifications to the QL's.
>>
> So, I wonder, from this side of the pond, what was a "Bent" mod'.
>
> Was Tony not distributing his smoothing adaptors in the States ?
Surely
> the
> simplest solution ?
>

PD:
Wouldn't work IIRC. US Current is rated [EMAIL PROTECTED] whereas Tony's
solution was for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh yes they would in exactly the same way as UK.
240 -> 110  - OK
110 -> 240  - Not OK

... but it would need a US plug fitted, and connection to an earthed
socket (usually only in the kitchen) and an army of UK -> US converters
(8-)#

I must say I find the lack of earth in the majority of US sockets
terrible.  It is fine and safe, of course, for most ordinary stuff, but
absolutely hopeless for computer equipment.  There are two spike filters
to earth in all good filters (like Computer Cleaners).

Tony


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Re: [ql-users] Some Newbie Hardware Questions

2006-01-10 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 13:22:56, David Tubbs wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

>
>>
>>And this 'Noise' problem was the reason for the popularity in the
>>USA of the "Bent" modifications to the QL's.
>
>So, I wonder, from this side of the pond, what was a "Bent" mod'.
>
>Was Tony not distributing his smoothing adaptors in the States ? Surely the
>simplest solution ?
I didn't - UK only.
These "Computer Cleaners" - much more than simply smoothing capacitors -
are still being sold.
These mainly cured the problems of crashing QLs.

I am not talking about the motherboard's basic susceptibility to
crashing with 'dirty' mains.  The problem is with expansions not using
good buffered and smoothed backplanes.  Qubide does have a through port,
but when an expansion (like Gold Card) is plugged into it, then the
inherent noise of the J1 interface becomes critical.

It is the expansion that crashes, not the motherboard in these cases.
The 'Bent' mods were to the motherboard, and will not help the
daisy-chained expansion much I think.

Tony

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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 09:41:54,
=?windows-1253?B?UGhvZWJ1cyBSLiBEb2tvcyAo1u/f4u/yINEuIM30/Orv8ik=?=
wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

>Ôçí Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:55:58 -0500,ï(ç) David Tubbs
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ýãñáøå:

 
> Scrolling all the way down for a superfluous two word addition is a
pain.
> And not allways easy to find if not separated by a blank line from the
> quote.
>

Not a problem with a decent mailer that changes colours when
encountering
quoted text. Most recent is always black, first level quotation: green,
second level quotation: green and so on...

Indeed yes - Turnpike adds colour.

Tony
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[ql-users] Character sets

2006-01-10 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Tue, 10 Jan 2006 at 09:45:27, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

>Ôçí Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:58:59 -0500,ï(ç) Tony Firshman
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ýãñáøå:
>>
>> Can we please please give up trying to use anything other than plain
>> text (8-)#

>The problem is that (at least I) need mostly to write mails in Greek.
>It
>is a terrible pain to go back and forth... Most I can do to compromise
>is
>to remove the Greek version of my name from my "From:" header... (How
>does
>that look?)

A lot better Ýãñáøå (8-)#
 ^ does that look OK to you?

... and for some reason the quoting is working.

There is a very nicely written document on the problems of character
sets:

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/printerFriendly/articles/Unicode.html

I like the line " .if you're still programming that way, then you're
not much better than a medical doctor that doesn't believe in germs"

There are many other similar witticisms littered in the article.  The
most entertaining (and well written) technical document I have ever
read, and I read it all.
As he says, it is mandatory reading.

For the reasons outlined there, Worldnews are using UTF-8 now for all
news.  It does not increase the stored size of English (and American) at
all. Any non-UTF-8 (the majority we collect) is converted to UTF-8
before being added the database.

Tony



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Re: [ql-users] Some Newbie Hardware Questions

2006-01-10 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
Την Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:22:56 -0500,ο(η) David Tubbs  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> έγραψε:

>
>>
>> And this 'Noise' problem was the reason for the popularity in the
>> USA of the "Bent" modifications to the QL's.
>
> So, I wonder, from this side of the pond, what was a "Bent" mod'.
>
> Was Tony not distributing his smoothing adaptors in the States ? Surely  
> the
> simplest solution ?
>
>

Wouldn't work IIRC. US Current is rated [EMAIL PROTECTED] whereas Tony's  
solution was for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
Την Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:41:54 -0500,ο(η) Phoebus R. Dokos (Φοίβος Ρ.  
Ντόκος) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> έγραψε:
>
> Not a problem with a decent mailer that changes colours when encountering
> quoted text. Most recent is always black, first level quotation: green,
> second level quotation: green and so on...
>

And of course I meant "red" instead of "green" for the second level  
quotation

Ffibys
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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
Την Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:58:59 -0500,ο(η) Tony Firshman  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> έγραψε:
>
> Can we please please give up trying to use anything other than plain
> text (8-)#

The problem is that (at least I) need mostly to write mails in Greek. It  
is a terrible pain to go back and forth... Most I can do to compromise is  
to remove the Greek version of my name from my "From:" header... (How does  
that look?)

Ffibys
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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread Φοίβος Ρ. Ντόκος
Την Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:55:58 -0500,ο(η) David Tubbs  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> έγραψε:


> I would hardly like to contemplate the appearance of one called
> =?windows-1253?B?UGhvZWJ1cyBSLiBEb2tvcyAo1u/f4u/yINEuIM30/Orv8ik=?=
>
> Why is it that a handful of contributors appear with such a nomenclature  
> ?

This isn't our fault. When we post using non 7bit ASCII (which most  
mailers should correctly interpret and resend back as they got it) the  
ocassional non-capable mailer gets the text and since it cannot understand  
it jumbles it up and spits it out as the mumbo-jumbo above.
Unfortunately, we use our mailers mostly for communication in our own  
language, therefore we cannot change the codepage everytime we need to  
write here... unless of course one uses a singular email address devoted  
only to this list.
>
> SUBJECT - what subject ? No, completely irrelevant to the subject header,
> just as an illustration.
> Not about Sudoku, or even screenshoots (whatever those may be).
>
Only replying to what Tony wrote albeit a little lighthearted

> But at least the quoted, requoted . . . . Nxre quoted dross has been
> removed, to leave screeds of it in is comparable to spamming in terms of
> bandwidth and mailbox space.
>
> Scrolling all the way down for a superfluous two word addition is a pain.
> And not allways easy to find if not separated by a blank line from the  
> quote.
>

Not a problem with a decent mailer that changes colours when encountering  
quoted text. Most recent is always black, first level quotation: green,  
second level quotation: green and so on...

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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread Φοίβος Ρ. Ντόκ\"\"ος
Την Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:32:39 -0500,ο(η) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> έγραψε:


> I suspect you are incorrect FFibys !
>
> The original American 'Number Place' was brought to the US by a retired  
> judge - Holmes (I think). He called it Number Place from the original  
> Japanese (which I cannot remember - or type).
>
> He is the man responsible for introducing it to The Times newspaper over  
> here in the UK and the rest, they say, is history.
>
> Source : Christmas & New Year 2005 special issue of New Scientist  
> magazine.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Norman.
>


Hi Norman,

(Quoting from Wikipedia... but having cross-referenced it with other  
sources as well)

[Sudoku History]

The puzzle was designed by Howard Garns, a retired architect and freelance  
puzzle constructor, and first published in 1979. Although likely inspired  
by the Latin square invention of Leonhard Euler, Garns added a third  
dimension (the regional restriction) to the mathematical construct and  
(unlike Euler) presented the creation as a puzzle, providing a  
partially-completed grid and requiring the solver to fill in the rest. The  
puzzle was first published in New York by the specialist puzzle publisher  
Dell Magazines in its magazine Dell Pencil Puzzles and Word Games, under  
the title Number Place (which we can only assume Garns named it).

The puzzle was introduced in Japan by Nikoli in the paper Monthly Nikolist  
in April 1984 as Suuji wa dokushin ni kagiru (数字は独身に限る), which can  
be translated as "the numbers must be single" or "the numbers must occur  
only once" (独身 literally means "single; celibate; unmarried"). The  
puzzle was named by Kaji Maki (鍜治 真起), the president of Nikoli. At a  
later date, the name was abbreviated to Sudoku (数独, pronounced  
SUE-dough-coo; sū = number, doku = single); it is a common practice in  
Japanese to take only the first kanji of compound words to form a shorter  
version. In 1986, Nikoli introduced two innovations which guaranteed the  
popularity of the puzzle: the number of givens was restricted to no more  
than 32 and puzzles became "symmetrical" (meaning the givens were  
distributed in rotationally symmetric cells). It is now published in  
mainstream Japanese periodicals, such as the Asahi Shimbun. Within Japan,  
Nikoli still holds the trademark for the name Sudoku; other publications  
in Japan use alternative names.

In 1989, Loadstar/Softdisk Publishing published DigitHunt on the Commodore  
64, which was apparently the first home computer version of Sudoku. At  
least one publisher still uses that title.

Yoshimitsu Kanai published his computerized puzzle generator under the  
name Single Number for the Apple Macintosh [11] in 1995 in Japanese and  
English, and in 1996 for the Palm (PDA) [12].

Bringing the process full-circle, Dell Magazines, which publishes the  
original Number Place puzzle, now also publishes two Sudoku magazines:  
Original Sudoku and Extreme Sudoku. Additionally, Kappa reprints Nikoli  
Sudoku in GAMES Magazine under the name Squared Away; the New York Post,  
USA Today, The Boston Globe, Washington Post, and San Francisco Chronicle  
now also publish the puzzle. It is also often included in puzzle  
anthologies, such as The Giant 1001 Puzzle Book (under the title Nine  
Numbers).

Within the context of puzzle history, parallels are often cited to Rubik's  
Cube, another logic puzzle popular in the 1980s. Sudoku has been called  
the "Rubik's cube of the 21st century".
[edit]

Popularity in the media

In 1997, retired Hong Kong judge Wayne Gould, 59, a New Zealander, saw a  
partly completed puzzle in a Japanese bookshop. Over 6 years he developed  
a computer program to produce puzzles quickly. Knowing that British  
newspapers have a long history of publishing crosswords and other puzzles,  
he promoted Sudoku to The Times in Britain, which launched it on 12  
November 2004 (calling it Su Doku). The puzzles by Pappocom, Gould's  
software house, have been printed daily in the Times ever since.

(...)
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Re: [ql-users] Some Newbie Hardware Questions

2006-01-10 Thread David Tubbs

>
>And this 'Noise' problem was the reason for the popularity in the
>USA of the "Bent" modifications to the QL's.

So, I wonder, from this side of the pond, what was a "Bent" mod'.

Was Tony not distributing his smoothing adaptors in the States ? Surely the 
simplest solution ? 


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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread David Tubbs
At 17:37 09/01/2006 -0500, Phoebe  wrote:
>I suspect it looks ugly as me :-P
>
>Ffibys

I would hardly like to contemplate the appearance of one called
=?windows-1253?B?UGhvZWJ1cyBSLiBEb2tvcyAo1u/f4u/yINEuIM30/Orv8ik=?=

Why is it that a handful of contributors appear with such a nomenclature ?

SUBJECT - what subject ? No, completely irrelevant to the subject header, 
just as an illustration.
Not about Sudoku, or even screenshoots (whatever those may be).

But at least the quoted, requoted . . . . Nxre quoted dross has been 
removed, to leave screeds of it in is comparable to spamming in terms of 
bandwidth and mailbox space.

Scrolling all the way down for a superfluous two word addition is a pain. 
And not allways easy to find if not separated by a blank line from the quote.




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Re: [ql-users] Esperanto

2006-01-10 Thread David Tubbs

>
>  who also use Esperanto?

Desperanto was what I and a bunch of other Brits were using while working 
on an eco-project in Spain.
For my part I had the wierd experience of 30 year idle Italian coming to 
the surface just as soon as I drove over the border, yet how dissimilar 
they are in reality. 


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Re: [ql-users] Sudoku. Was: screenshoots

2006-01-10 Thread Norman
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Phoebus R. Dokos (Φοίβος Ρ. Ντόκος)" <>
> >>
> > BTW: Incorrectly it is mentioned (I think by Geoff) in the latest QLT that
> > Sudoku is of Japanese origin.
> > Sudoku was originally called Number Place and it is an American invention
> > dating to 1979 (Together with the ZX80)
> >

I suspect you are incorrect FFibys !

The original American 'Number Place' was brought to the US by a retired judge - 
Holmes (I think). He called it Number Place from the original Japanese (which I 
cannot remember - or type).

He is the man responsible for introducing it to The Times newspaper over here 
in the UK and the rest, they say, is history.

Source : Christmas & New Year 2005 special issue of New Scientist magazine.


Cheers,
Norman.

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