Re: [Ql-Users] keyboard issue with QPCII

[Rich Mellor]

This is intriguing, but somehow, I think the obvious answer is to use a 
black box QL !


On 01/06/2011 19:09, Lee Privett wrote:

Thanks for the advice and yep, using the program and pressing the
-  = 0c and - (correct)
= = 90 and Prev Track (nope)
[  = 91 and @
]  = 1a and [
'   = 92 and :
# = 1b and ]
Right shift = 00 and no register of anything in the right box


Tried the country code 1, no luck there either

Wonderful!

I am thinking of trying KeyTweak which remaps but not sure if that
would work if QPCII doesn't route through it
http://webpages.charter.net/krumsick/KeyTweak%20Manual.pdf

Anyone done this before?

Thanks, Lee

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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] keyboard issue with QPCII

Lee Privett wrote:

Using Win7 on a new Toshiba laptop running QPCII now throws up this
problem, which works perfectly well under Windows and also in
Q-emulator

They use different mechanisms to read the keyboard. Unfortunately some
notebook manufacturers mess up the keyboard scan codes... you can see
what is actually send to the DirectInput queue by downloading the tool
http://www.kilgus.net/soft/diquick.zip

Select "Keyboard" as device and hit Create. Then you select "A
keyboard" in the "Form of..." box and increase the buffer size at the
bottom to 32. Then switch to the data tab and hit the keys that are
not working. I guess that your right shift key does NOT result in a
"Shift right" scan code...

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] keyboard issue with QPCII

[Lee Privett]

Thanks for the advice and yep, using the program and pressing the 
-  = 0c and - (correct)
= = 90 and Prev Track (nope)
[  = 91 and @
]  = 1a and [
'   = 92 and :
# = 1b and ]
Right shift = 00 and no register of anything in the right box


Tried the country code 1, no luck there either

Wonderful!

I am thinking of trying KeyTweak which remaps but not sure if that
would work if QPCII doesn't route through it
http://webpages.charter.net/krumsick/KeyTweak%20Manual.pdf 

Anyone done this before?  

Thanks, Lee

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[mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Marcel Kilgus
Sent: 01 June 2011 12:14
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] keyboard issue with QPCII

Lee Privett wrote:
> Using Win7 on a new Toshiba laptop running QPCII now throws up this 
> problem, which works perfectly well under Windows and also in 
> Q-emulator

They use different mechanisms to read the keyboard. Unfortunately some
notebook manufacturers mess up the keyboard scan codes... you can see
what is actually send to the DirectInput queue by downloading the tool
http://www.kilgus.net/soft/diquick.zip

Select "Keyboard" as device and hit Create. Then you select "A
keyboard" in the "Form of..." box and increase the buffer size at the
bottom to 32. Then switch to the data tab and hit the keys that are
not working. I guess that your right shift key does NOT result in a
"Shift right" scan code...

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] keyboard issue with QPCII

[Dilwyn Jones]

Lee Privett wrote:

Pressing all the top keys my keyboard now displays this under QPCII
only



1234567890-q

1234567890-q  with the right shift key

!"£$%^&*()_Q with the left shift key

I suppose you could always become a Q-Celt like Darren Branagh ;-))

Dilwyn Jones 




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Re: [Ql-Users] keyboard issue with QPCII

[Marcel Kilgus]

Lee Privett wrote:
> Using Win7 on a new Toshiba laptop running QPCII now throws up this
> problem, which works perfectly well under Windows and also in
> Q-emulator

They use different mechanisms to read the keyboard. Unfortunately some
notebook manufacturers mess up the keyboard scan codes... you can see
what is actually send to the DirectInput queue by downloading the tool
http://www.kilgus.net/soft/diquick.zip

Select "Keyboard" as device and hit Create. Then you select "A
keyboard" in the "Form of..." box and increase the buffer size at the
bottom to 32. Then switch to the data tab and hit the keys that are
not working. I guess that your right shift key does NOT result in a
"Shift right" scan code...

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] keyboard issue with QPCII

[François Van Emelen]

Op 1/06/2011 0:00, Lee Privett schreef:

Using Win7 on a new Toshiba laptop running QPCII now throws up this
problem, which works perfectly well under Windows and also in
Q-emulator





Pressing all the top keys my keyboard now displays this under QPCII
only



1234567890-q

1234567890-q  with the right shift key

!"£$%^&*()_Q with the left shift key



instead of



1234567890-=

!"£$%^&*()_+ with the right shift key

!"£$%^&*()_+ with the left shift key



similar things happen with other lines with the rightmost keys giving
the problem and I am unable to get the # @ at all (no pun intended) so
what gives?



I am using country code 44, I see no other tweeks L





For your information, digestion and action where relevant, thankyou

Lee

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Hi,

The same problem happened to me a few years ago with my new laptop ( 
Acer Aspire 7720G with Belgian Azerty keyboard).
As nobody on this list could solve the problem I went back to the shop 
and I explained the problem. The shopkeeper allowed me to install QPC2 
on one of his demo laptops and QPC2 ran as a whisle (correct English?).
The problem seemed to be 2 additional keys ( one for € and one for $) on 
the ACER.


QPC2 is no longer installed on that laptop as there seems to be no 
solution (or at least I couldn't find one).


François Van Emelen


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Re: [Ql-Users] [ql-users] [off-topic] Updates in Dave-land...

[Norman Dunbar]

Morning Dave,

FYI:


I have no idea whether c68 can handle a single file that large!  Lack of
output could mean that something has gone wrong, but it could also mean that
c68 is simply still working.


Well, the file size caused more than C68 to have problems. QED, the 
editor supplied alongside C68, reads in the first 32676 lines and gives 
no indication of any problems. Luckily I didn't save!


QD loads the file and seems to load all of it, but the line number 
indicator on the top of the screen has "interesting" characters when you 
get too high in line numbers.


I am going to have to split the file into it's constituent parts and 
build a make file to cope I think.



Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] keyboard issue with QPCII

[Dilwyn Jones]

Lee Privett wrote:

Using Win7 on a new Toshiba laptop running QPCII now throws up this
problem, which works perfectly well under Windows and also in
Q-emulator

Pressing all the top keys my keyboard now displays this under QPCII
only

1234567890-q

1234567890-q  with the right shift key

!"£$%^&*()_Q with the left shift key

instead of

1234567890-=

!"£$%^&*()_+ with the right shift key

!"£$%^&*()_+ with the left shift key

similar things happen with other lines with the rightmost keys 
giving
the problem and I am unable to get the # @ at all (no pun intended) 
so

what gives?

I am using country code 44, I see no other tweeks L
I suspect this probably has absolutely nothing to do with it in this 
case, but for lesser issues it can sometimes be useful to run a laptop 
keyboard under the American keyboard layout (country code 1) if you 
are having problems with #, @ etc.


Dilwyn Jones 




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