[Ql-Users] stop printing

2008-12-16 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I accidentally started an enourmous SDUMP printout from QPC and can't stop it!

I've used PAR_ABORT and PAR_CLEAR in QPC2 and tried deleting the print job in 
Windoze. No joy - it looks like Winodze will only stop it at the end of the 
print job. Closing down Windoze and switching off the printer just makes it 
resume when the computer's restarted.

I forgot I was sending an SDUMP print for Epsons to a HP printer which ain't 
Epson compatible. So it prints every byte of "graphics" data as text, about 2 
or 3 characters per page. At this rate the house will be buried in paper. 
Anyone know how to force Windoze to stop???

Help! (Put Windoze on pause for now, but it will stop anything else printing 
until I can clear it)

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Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing

2008-12-16 Thread Paul Holmgren

Dilwyn Jones wrote:

I accidentally started an enourmous SDUMP printout from QPC and can't stop it!

I've used PAR_ABORT and PAR_CLEAR in QPC2 and tried deleting the print job in 
Windoze. No joy - it looks like Winodze will only stop it at the end of the 
print job. Closing down Windoze and switching off the printer just makes it 
resume when the computer's restarted.

I forgot I was sending an SDUMP print for Epsons to a HP printer which ain't Epson 
compatible. So it prints every byte of "graphics" data as text, about 2 or 3 
characters per page. At this rate the house will be buried in paper. Anyone know how to 
force Windoze to stop???

Help! (Put Windoze on pause for now, but it will stop anything else printing 
until I can clear it)



Maybe try reading here??

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/169621-46-cannot-kill-print


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Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing

2008-12-16 Thread Dilwyn Jones


- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Holmgren" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing




Dilwyn Jones wrote:

I accidentally started an enourmous SDUMP printout from QPC and can't
stop it!

Maybe try reading here??

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/169621-46-cannot-kill-print


--
Paul Holmgren

Thanks. I also found that running this command script I got from M$ Help
works as a last resort:

net stop spooler
del %systemroot%\system32\spool\printers\*.shd
del %systemroot%\system32\spool\printers\*.spl
net start spooler

I guess it probably amounts to pretty much the same principle.

Looks like a "known problem" in Windoze. Seems to be plenty of advice about
this online!

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Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing

2008-12-16 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Except in my case, trying this failed to do anything. Every time I switched 
back on, more paper with one or two text characters on it.


Seems (as Paul's email implied) you have to resort to stopping the Windoze 
spooler, then getting rid of any spooler files in the folder indicated in 
the script, which is pretty well what the 4 line script I sent does.


I've saved that script as a little command file I can run in Windoze now 
next time I goof like that...


I wonder if Marcel knows how much pain his work can cause Windoze? Of 
course, QPC didn't do anything wrong, neither did Windoze for that matter. 
My fault sending an Epson screen dump to a Hewlett Packard printer :-(

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- Original Message - 
From: "P Witte" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing




The first thing I do is remove the paper from the input tray. Then cancel 
the print job in Windoze. Then switch the printer on and off until its 
print buffer has emptied. Eventually all parts of the chain error out or 
give up in exhaustion. The details depend on your OS version, printer and 
setup, of course.


Its a horrible business. Cant think why M$ and the printer makers havent 
been able to find a solution to this in all these years, but I suppose 
they dont really mind: Our pain is their gain.


Per

Dilwyn Jones wrote:
I accidentally started an enourmous SDUMP printout from QPC and can't 
stop it!


I've used PAR_ABORT and PAR_CLEAR in QPC2 and tried deleting the print 
job in Windoze. No joy - it looks like Winodze will only stop it at the 
end of the print job. Closing down Windoze and switching off the printer 
just makes it resume when the computer's restarted.


I forgot I was sending an SDUMP print for Epsons to a HP printer which 
ain't Epson compatible. So it prints every byte of "graphics" data as 
text, about 2 or 3 characters per page. At this rate the house will be 
buried in paper. Anyone know how to force Windoze to stop???


Help! (Put Windoze on pause for now, but it will stop anything else 
printing until I can clear it)



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Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing

2008-12-16 Thread P Witte
The first thing I do is remove the paper from the input tray. Then 
cancel the print job in Windoze. Then switch the printer on and off 
until its print buffer has emptied. Eventually all parts of the chain 
error out or give up in exhaustion. The details depend on your OS 
version, printer and setup, of course.


Its a horrible business. Cant think why M$ and the printer makers 
havent been able to find a solution to this in all these years, but I 
suppose they dont really mind: Our pain is their gain.


Per

Dilwyn Jones wrote:

I accidentally started an enourmous SDUMP printout from QPC and can't stop it!

I've used PAR_ABORT and PAR_CLEAR in QPC2 and tried deleting the print job in 
Windoze. No joy - it looks like Winodze will only stop it at the end of the 
print job. Closing down Windoze and switching off the printer just makes it 
resume when the computer's restarted.

I forgot I was sending an SDUMP print for Epsons to a HP printer which ain't Epson 
compatible. So it prints every byte of "graphics" data as text, about 2 or 3 
characters per page. At this rate the house will be buried in paper. Anyone know how to 
force Windoze to stop???

Help! (Put Windoze on pause for now, but it will stop anything else printing 
until I can clear it)


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Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing

2008-12-16 Thread John Gilpin
I have found that the easiest way of cancelling a print job is to remove the 
paper. My printer (Epson Stylus D120) then reports "Paper not Loaded 
Properly" and gives the option to cancel the print job. This works 
immediately every time.{:-)


This facility is not however available on my HP DeskJet 610C printer and I 
then have Dilwyn's problem (and another tree or two are felled!!) {:-(


John Gilpin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dilwyn Jones" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing


Except in my case, trying this failed to do anything. Every time I 
switched back on, more paper with one or two text characters on it.


Seems (as Paul's email implied) you have to resort to stopping the Windoze 
spooler, then getting rid of any spooler files in the folder indicated in 
the script, which is pretty well what the 4 line script I sent does.


I've saved that script as a little command file I can run in Windoze now 
next time I goof like that...


I wonder if Marcel knows how much pain his work can cause Windoze? Of 
course, QPC didn't do anything wrong, neither did Windoze for that matter. 
My fault sending an Epson screen dump to a Hewlett Packard printer :-(

--
Dilwyn Jones

- Original Message - 
From: "P Witte" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing




The first thing I do is remove the paper from the input tray. Then cancel 
the print job in Windoze. Then switch the printer on and off until its 
print buffer has emptied. Eventually all parts of the chain error out or 
give up in exhaustion. The details depend on your OS version, printer and 
setup, of course.


Its a horrible business. Cant think why M$ and the printer makers havent 
been able to find a solution to this in all these years, but I suppose 
they dont really mind: Our pain is their gain.


Per

Dilwyn Jones wrote:
I accidentally started an enourmous SDUMP printout from QPC and can't 
stop it!


I've used PAR_ABORT and PAR_CLEAR in QPC2 and tried deleting the print 
job in Windoze. No joy - it looks like Winodze will only stop it at the 
end of the print job. Closing down Windoze and switching off the printer 
just makes it resume when the computer's restarted.


I forgot I was sending an SDUMP print for Epsons to a HP printer which 
ain't Epson compatible. So it prints every byte of "graphics" data as 
text, about 2 or 3 characters per page. At this rate the house will be 
buried in paper. Anyone know how to force Windoze to stop???


Help! (Put Windoze on pause for now, but it will stop anything else 
printing until I can clear it)



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Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing

2008-12-16 Thread P Witte
Ahem, I should have mentioned that I dont reinsert the paper in the 
paper tray until this procedure terminates successfully, thus saving 
vast tracts of Finnish forest! Of course, obliterating the spooler 
files manually may shorten the time taken in some setups.


ATB Per

John Gilpin wrote:


I have found that the easiest way of cancelling a print job is to remove 
the paper. My printer (Epson Stylus D120) then reports "Paper not Loaded 
Properly" and gives the option to cancel the print job. This works 
immediately every time.{:-)


This facility is not however available on my HP DeskJet 610C printer and 
I then have Dilwyn's problem (and another tree or two are felled!!) {:-(


John Gilpin.


- Original Message - From: "Dilwyn Jones" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing


Except in my case, trying this failed to do anything. Every time I 
switched back on, more paper with one or two text characters on it.


Seems (as Paul's email implied) you have to resort to stopping the 
Windoze spooler, then getting rid of any spooler files in the folder 
indicated in the script, which is pretty well what the 4 line script I 
sent does.


I've saved that script as a little command file I can run in Windoze 
now next time I goof like that...


I wonder if Marcel knows how much pain his work can cause Windoze? Of 
course, QPC didn't do anything wrong, neither did Windoze for that 
matter. My fault sending an Epson screen dump to a Hewlett Packard 
printer :-(

--
Dilwyn Jones

- Original Message - From: "P Witte" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing




The first thing I do is remove the paper from the input tray. Then 
cancel the print job in Windoze. Then switch the printer on and off 
until its print buffer has emptied. Eventually all parts of the chain 
error out or give up in exhaustion. The details depend on your OS 
version, printer and setup, of course.


Its a horrible business. Cant think why M$ and the printer makers 
havent been able to find a solution to this in all these years, but I 
suppose they dont really mind: Our pain is their gain.


Per

Dilwyn Jones wrote:
I accidentally started an enourmous SDUMP printout from QPC and 
can't stop it!


I've used PAR_ABORT and PAR_CLEAR in QPC2 and tried deleting the 
print job in Windoze. No joy - it looks like Winodze will only stop 
it at the end of the print job. Closing down Windoze and switching 
off the printer just makes it resume when the computer's restarted.


I forgot I was sending an SDUMP print for Epsons to a HP printer 
which ain't Epson compatible. So it prints every byte of "graphics" 
data as text, about 2 or 3 characters per page. At this rate the 
house will be buried in paper. Anyone know how to force Windoze to 
stop???


Help! (Put Windoze on pause for now, but it will stop anything else 
printing until I can clear it)



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Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing

2008-12-16 Thread Paul Holmgren

Dilwyn Jones wrote:

I accidentally started an enourmous SDUMP printout from QPC and can't stop it!

I've used PAR_ABORT and PAR_CLEAR in QPC2 and tried deleting the print job in 
Windoze. No joy - it looks like Winodze will only stop it at the end of the 
print job. Closing down Windoze and switching off the printer just makes it 
resume when the computer's restarted.

I forgot I was sending an SDUMP print for Epsons to a HP printer which ain't Epson 
compatible. So it prints every byte of "graphics" data as text, about 2 or 3 
characters per page. At this rate the house will be buried in paper. Anyone know how to 
force Windoze to stop???

Help! (Put Windoze on pause for now, but it will stop anything else printing 
until I can clear it)




Ok, you're on the right track, as I understand the beast: this is 
primarily what seems to be happening


1  You initate a print job
2  MOST all the printer control stuff is now handed off to winderze
3  makes for a cheaper printer, less work on the printer makers tech
   types
4  Widerze has to buffer the print job so that it can be passed to the
   printer at a workable speed,
5  SO it (the print job) gets placed in a temp file of some sort, maybe
   even 2 diff places, the print spooler temp file and the SWAP file ??
6  anyway, once placed in a temp file situation, the DATA is still there
   until the print spooler part of winderze is happy it did what it was
   supposed to so: spit out paper from the printer.

the process suggested on that link is guiding folks to where the temp 
files are hiding, just awaiting the all clear from the printspooler in 
winderze


Now having taxed the brain too much I must take it out and retire off to 
the spa (providing I can afford it in todays economy) and get off the 
soapbox





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Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing

2008-12-17 Thread Norman Dunbar
Evening Dilwyn,

> Dilwyn Jones wrote:
>> I accidentally started an enourmous SDUMP printout from QPC and can't
>> stop it!

My HP printer has a menu button upon which is a "cancel job" option. I
also have a button to cancel job as well. Does yours?


Cheers,
Norman.
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