Re: [ql-users] Brand new Q60 user
Hi Luke, also have a Q60 SMSQ/E 3.12 I dont use the sound so I can only suggest that with QSPlayer the problem might be that described in the manual due to slave blocks causing delayed sound. There is a fix in the manual. As to the crahes as Dilwyn has suggested the O60 caches cause problems for a lot of software when copyback is set. The supplied boot with the Q60 when I got it set copyback. Although I assume the Utilities menu you refer to is QCascade, a C program, I tend to use writethrough as any Qliberated program will crash with copyback set. Try adding the command WRITETHROUGH to the end of your boot. Having said that with 3.12 most programes are stable even with copyback set & I very rarely experience crashes. I get more crashes with QPC2 - probably down to the PC. Best wishes Duncan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luke Evans Sent: 17 September 2006 23:49 To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com Subject: [ql-users] Brand new Q60 user Hi guys, The QL bug bit me hard this year, and so I'm recently the proud owner of a Q60. The amount of time I have to enjoy this machine isn't what I'd like, but I have started to tinker, and will move some of my 'little projects' across to this machine from my QPC set up (which itself runs under Windows vitualisation on my Intel Mac - I gave up on PC's, except for work, as soon as OS X appeared from Apple!). Now, I'm having a few problems with crashes on the Q60. Naturally, I'm hoping that this is a software issue (or some interaction) and not a hardware fault per se. Two methods that I can crash the machine easily with: 1. Once booted, right click on the "Utilities" menu before doing anything else. This locks up the machine with 100% probability, unless you've been off doing something else after booting (such as launching/using an editor). The menu appears, but the machine is borked and needs resetting at that point. This works equally 'well' on SMSQ/E 3.10 (ROM) and SMSQ/E 3.12 (loaded from boot file). 2. Playing with QSPLAYER. After starting and stopping playback a few times, or loading different samples, the sound will eventually pick up noise or other corruption, eventually the machine crashes (usually with very pretty screen artefacts being drawn). Actually, I have only had this happen on V3.12, not (yet) V3.10 - though I've played with it less in that configuration. Now, I'm not sure how many people here have Q60's. I see some discussion about 3.12 flying by, so maybe there are a couple of bugs to be squashed in the next SMSQ/E. I'd like to know if there's any way to get a crash dump that might be useful to someone. Luke ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Brand new Q60 user
Luke, I don't have a Q60, but have heard it said that SOME issues can be resolved by turning cache off (which obviously makes things run a bit slower). I don't know how, it'll probably say in documention with the machine. Turning caches off shouldn't do any harm except slow things down a bit, you can always turn them back on once you've confirmed it makes no difference to the problem. I've never really understand why this is the case, but it might be where software is "self-modifying" and changes areas of its own code in memory AFTER that memory has been cached, so the machine might be running slightly out of date code (or partially updated code), so some software might exhibit some weird behaviour. But good on you for going for a Q60, I hope you will be very happy with it once you've managed to sort out this problem. -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: "Luke Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 11:49 PM Subject: [ql-users] Brand new Q60 user > Hi guys, > > The QL bug bit me hard this year, and so I'm recently the proud > owner > of a Q60. > > The amount of time I have to enjoy this machine isn't what I'd like, > but I have started to tinker, and will move some of my 'little > projects' across to this machine from my QPC set up (which itself > runs under Windows vitualisation on my Intel Mac - I gave up on > PC's, > except for work, as soon as OS X appeared from Apple!). > > Now, I'm having a few problems with crashes on the Q60. Naturally, > I'm hoping that this is a software issue (or some interaction) and > not a hardware fault per se. > Two methods that I can crash the machine easily with: > 1. Once booted, right click on the "Utilities" menu before doing > anything else. This locks up the machine with 100% probability, > unless you've been off doing something else after booting (such as > launching/using an editor). The menu appears, but the machine is > borked and needs resetting at that point. This works equally 'well' > on SMSQ/E 3.10 (ROM) and SMSQ/E 3.12 (loaded from boot file). > 2. Playing with QSPLAYER. After starting and stopping playback a > few > times, or loading different samples, the sound will eventually pick > up noise or other corruption, eventually the machine crashes > (usually > with very pretty screen artefacts being drawn). Actually, I have > only had this happen on V3.12, not (yet) V3.10 - though I've played > with it less in that configuration. > > Now, I'm not sure how many people here have Q60's. I see some > discussion about 3.12 flying by, so maybe there are a couple of bugs > to be squashed in the next SMSQ/E. I'd like to know if there's any > way to get a crash dump that might be useful to someone. > > Luke > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: > 14/09/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 14/09/2006 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Brand new Q60 user
Hi guys, The QL bug bit me hard this year, and so I'm recently the proud owner of a Q60. The amount of time I have to enjoy this machine isn't what I'd like, but I have started to tinker, and will move some of my 'little projects' across to this machine from my QPC set up (which itself runs under Windows vitualisation on my Intel Mac - I gave up on PC's, except for work, as soon as OS X appeared from Apple!). Now, I'm having a few problems with crashes on the Q60. Naturally, I'm hoping that this is a software issue (or some interaction) and not a hardware fault per se. Two methods that I can crash the machine easily with: 1. Once booted, right click on the "Utilities" menu before doing anything else. This locks up the machine with 100% probability, unless you've been off doing something else after booting (such as launching/using an editor). The menu appears, but the machine is borked and needs resetting at that point. This works equally 'well' on SMSQ/E 3.10 (ROM) and SMSQ/E 3.12 (loaded from boot file). 2. Playing with QSPLAYER. After starting and stopping playback a few times, or loading different samples, the sound will eventually pick up noise or other corruption, eventually the machine crashes (usually with very pretty screen artefacts being drawn). Actually, I have only had this happen on V3.12, not (yet) V3.10 - though I've played with it less in that configuration. Now, I'm not sure how many people here have Q60's. I see some discussion about 3.12 flying by, so maybe there are a couple of bugs to be squashed in the next SMSQ/E. I'd like to know if there's any way to get a crash dump that might be useful to someone. Luke ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm