Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW!

[Petri Pellinen]

Urs, thanks for the heads-up! Had to buy it from the US store because
for some reason the UK store does not "deliver" Kindle editions to
Finland. Amazing that she went through the trouble of retyping and
republishing the whole thing.

Petri


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Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW!

[John Gilpin]

After following the thread, on this list, regarding the interest in Jan 
Jones's book "QL SuperBASIC - The Definitive Handbook", I was asked by 
QUANTA to see if I could set up a rapport with Jan to see if she would 
give QUANTA permission to re-publish her book in electronic format - PDF 
or e Book formats -


You may remember that the book was first published by McGraw-Hill (UK) 
Ltd. in 1985 and due to overwhelming demand by QUANTA Members and with 
Jan's permission, the QUANTA LIMITED EDITION was published in July 1989. 
Many QLers (both QUANTA members and non-QUANTA Members) now have copies 
of either the original or the QUANTA Reprint.


At first, when I contacted Jan, she expressed surprise that this book 
was still in such great demand and said that she would consider our 
proposal to re-publish the book and get back to me.


This she did later in the summer saying that she was currently(then) 
considering the possibility of re-publishing the book herself in 
electronic format and would let me know her final decision when her 
considerations were completed. This was the last I heard until earlier 
today I received the following email:-


START COPY EMAIL:

Hi John,

I hope you are well and that the 30th anniversary celebrations went 
swimmingly!




I have finally managed to e publish a new edition of /QL SuperBASIC - 
The Definitive Handbook. /It's taken quite some while, because it proved 
to be impractical to scan it in - so I have retyped and reformatted it!


I believe it should be available in all Amazon markets now, and can be 
read on the free-to-download Kindle-for-PC software if people don't have 
an actual hand-held Kindle.


The link is www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00P569EH4

The new cover is lovely, the book is priced at a very reasonable £5 - 
the only thing missing from the original is the index, which is slightly 
tricky on a book with no page numbers. Kindles do have a text-search 
capability though, which should help.


I'd be grateful if you could spread the word.

All thebest, Jan x

END COPY EMAIL.

I will respond to Jan's email with the thanks of all QLers for her hard 
work and support for the QL now in it's 310st year.


All we need to do now is to buy our copies from Amazon - see link above 
- My copy has been delivered by Amazon Whispernet and is just waiting 
for me to get back to some activity requiring Jan's expertise.


Kind Regards,

John Gilpin.
QUANTA Membership Secretary
and QUANTA Treasurer
membership @quanta.org.uk
treasurer @quanta.org.uk


 


On 03/11/2014 18:21, Urs Koenig (QL) wrote:

http://www.qlis30.org.uk/#Jan

  


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Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW!

[Derek Stewart]

Hi Petri,

I have an Amazon Prime account, so have borrowed the ebook from the 
lending library in Amazon.


I think the Contents list or Index could of been entered as bookmarks in 
the Kindle ebook. But we can not have everything.


But since the ebook is protected by DRM, this can not be done, well not 
legally...


It is amazing that Jan still wants to do the work after all this time.

Regards,

Derek

On 03/11/14 22:00, Petri Pellinen wrote:

Urs, thanks for the heads-up! Had to buy it from the US store because
for some reason the UK store does not "deliver" Kindle editions to
Finland. Amazing that she went through the trouble of retyping and
republishing the whole thing.

Petri


On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Urs Koenig (QL)  wrote:

http://www.qlis30.org.uk/#Jan



QL forever!

--

   http://www.qlis30.org.uk

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Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW!

[Geoff Wicks]

On 03/11/2014 22:42, John Gilpin wrote:
After following the thread, on this list, regarding the interest in 
Jan Jones's book "QL SuperBASIC - The Definitive Handbook", I was 
asked by QUANTA to see if I could set up a rapport with Jan to see if 
she would give QUANTA permission to re-publish her book in electronic 
format - PDF or e Book formats -


You may remember that the book was first published by McGraw-Hill (UK) 
Ltd. in 1985 and due to overwhelming demand by QUANTA Members and with 
Jan's permission, the QUANTA LIMITED EDITION was published in July 
1989. Many QLers (both QUANTA members and non-QUANTA Members) now have 
copies of either the original or the QUANTA Reprint.


At first, when I contacted Jan, she expressed surprise that this book 
was still in such great demand and said that she would consider our 
proposal to re-publish the book and get back to me.


As a person who has said on many occasions that any reprint of the book, 
in electronic form or otherwise, was best done by Quanta, I have say a 
big thank you to John and Quanta,


Best wishes,


Geoff
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Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW!

[Ralf Reköndt]

I have read the few demo pages at Amazon and find it a bit circumstancially 
to use this version as a serious book. I have the native one, and this is a 
lot better to flip from page to page and to search for special things.


Cheers...Ralf

- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Wicks" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW!



On 03/11/2014 22:42, John Gilpin wrote:
After following the thread, on this list, regarding the interest in Jan 
Jones's book "QL SuperBASIC - The Definitive Handbook", I was asked by 
QUANTA to see if I could set up a rapport with Jan to see if she would 
give QUANTA permission to re-publish her book in electronic format - PDF 
or e Book formats -


You may remember that the book was first published by McGraw-Hill (UK) 
Ltd. in 1985 and due to overwhelming demand by QUANTA Members and with 
Jan's permission, the QUANTA LIMITED EDITION was published in July 1989. 
Many QLers (both QUANTA members and non-QUANTA Members) now have copies 
of either the original or the QUANTA Reprint.


At first, when I contacted Jan, she expressed surprise that this book was 
still in such great demand and said that she would consider our proposal 
to re-publish the book and get back to me.


As a person who has said on many occasions that any reprint of the book, 
in electronic form or otherwise, was best done by Quanta, I have say a big 
thank you to John and Quanta,


Best wishes,


Geoff
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Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW!

[George Gwilt]

On 4 Nov 2014, at 19:10, Ralf Reköndt  wrote:

> I have read the few demo pages at Amazon and find it a bit circumstancially 
> to use this version as a serious book. I have the native one, and this is a 
> lot better to flip from page to page and to search for special things.

My printed book has the numbers of the pages I want to look at written in 
pencil inside the cover.

George
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Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW!

[Ralf Reköndt]

As I state: The native printed one is a lot better.

Cheers...Ralf

- Original Message - 
From: "George Gwilt" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW!



On 4 Nov 2014, at 19:10, Ralf Reköndt  wrote:

I have read the few demo pages at Amazon and find it a bit 
circumstancially to use this version as a serious book. I have the native 
one, and this is a lot better to flip from page to page and to search for 
special things.


My printed book has the numbers of the pages I want to look at written in 
pencil inside the cover.


George
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Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW!

[Derek Stewart]

Hi George,

I prefer to read QL books and manuals on the Kindle.

The Kindle can include notes and bookmarks, but I have only borrowed the 
ebook from the Amazon Lending Library, so is protected by DRM.


Regards,

Derek

On 04/11/14 19:28, George Gwilt wrote:


On 4 Nov 2014, at 19:10, Ralf Reköndt  wrote:


I have read the few demo pages at Amazon and find it a bit circumstancially to 
use this version as a serious book. I have the native one, and this is a lot 
better to flip from page to page and to search for special things.


My printed book has the numbers of the pages I want to look at written in 
pencil inside the cover.

George
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Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW!

[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Derek,

Kindle DRM is pretty simple to deactivate. I did it myself some time ago when I 
needed a paid for Kindle book on my other reader for work. The iRiver needs 
ePub format, so a quick de-DRM and  a Calibre conversion, and it was done. 

Legally, it's a bit tenuous of course, I own the Kindle version and paid for 
it, and nobody but me can read it, and I only read on one or the other device, 
plus it counts as a backup in case Amazon decide to lock me out of my books one 
day, as they do.

I'm sure a recent change to copyright law in the UK made provision for this 
sort of copying, but, as mentioned, it's tenuous - and was at the time, 
definitely! 


Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW!

[Derek Stewart]

Hi Norman,

I can remove DRM easily, I doubt it is ethical.

BUt I think for a personal copy, I would like to add notes to the ebook, 
which meaning I will have to buy the book.


Regards,

Derek

On 05/11/14 09:17, Norman Dunbar wrote:

Hi Derek,

Kindle DRM is pretty simple to deactivate. I did it myself some time ago
when I needed a paid for Kindle book on my other reader for work. The
iRiver needs ePub format, so a quick de-DRM and a Calibre conversion,
and it was done.

Legally, it's a bit tenuous of course, I own the Kindle version and paid
for it, and nobody but me can read it, and I only read on one or the
other device, plus it counts as a backup in case Amazon decide to lock
me out of my books one day, as they do.

I'm sure a recent change to copyright law in the UK made provision for
this sort of copying, but, as mentioned, it's tenuous - and was at the
time, definitely!


Cheers,
Norm.
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Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW!

[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Derek, 

I agree about buying the book. Although I don't really need it nowadays, I 
remember being extremely frustrated at not being able to get a copy all those 
years ago. Until, that is, Quanta made it possible, and I snapped up a copy. I 
still have it.

I often add notes to my Kindle books too. Like Fermat would have done,  if he'd 
had a Kindle!

I better add that I only remove the DRM on my own paid for books!


Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] OUT NOW! (errata)

[John Gilpin]

Hi again all,

Just correcting my typo that the QL is now in it's 310st year. It 
obviously should have read "now in it's 31st year"


Kind Regards,

John Gilpin.

On 03/11/2014 22:42, John Gilpin wrote:
After following the thread, on this list, regarding the interest in 
Jan Jones's book "QL SuperBASIC - The Definitive Handbook", I was 
asked by QUANTA to see if I could set up a rapport with Jan to see if 
she would give QUANTA permission to re-publish her book in electronic 
format - PDF or e Book formats -


You may remember that the book was first published by McGraw-Hill (UK) 
Ltd. in 1985 and due to overwhelming demand by QUANTA Members and with 
Jan's permission, the QUANTA LIMITED EDITION was published in July 
1989. Many QLers (both QUANTA members and non-QUANTA Members) now have 
copies of either the original or the QUANTA Reprint.


At first, when I contacted Jan, she expressed surprise that this book 
was still in such great demand and said that she would consider our 
proposal to re-publish the book and get back to me.


This she did later in the summer saying that she was currently(then) 
considering the possibility of re-publishing the book herself in 
electronic format and would let me know her final decision when her 
considerations were completed. This was the last I heard until earlier 
today I received the following email:-


START COPY EMAIL:

Hi John,

I hope you are well and that the 30th anniversary celebrations went 
swimmingly!




I have finally managed to e publish a new edition of /QL SuperBASIC - 
The Definitive Handbook. /It's taken quite some while, because it 
proved to be impractical to scan it in - so I have retyped and 
reformatted it!


I believe it should be available in all Amazon markets now, and can be 
read on the free-to-download Kindle-for-PC software if people don't 
have an actual hand-held Kindle.


The link is www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00P569EH4

The new cover is lovely, the book is priced at a very reasonable £5 - 
the only thing missing from the original is the index, which is 
slightly tricky on a book with no page numbers. Kindles do have a 
text-search capability though, which should help.


I'd be grateful if you could spread the word.

All thebest, Jan x

END COPY EMAIL.

I will respond to Jan's email with the thanks of all QLers for her 
hard work and support for the QL now in it's 310st year.


All we need to do now is to buy our copies from Amazon - see link 
above - My copy has been delivered by Amazon Whispernet and is just 
waiting for me to get back to some activity requiring Jan's expertise.


Kind Regards,

John Gilpin.
QUANTA Membership Secretary
and QUANTA Treasurer
membership @quanta.org.uk
treasurer @quanta.org.uk




On 03/11/2014 18:21, Urs Koenig (QL) wrote:

http://www.qlis30.org.uk/#Jan


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