Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9
In message 4c8e9ec6.9020...@rwapservices.co.uk, Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk writes On 13/09/2010 21:44, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message 8dc375c04ba74aaa97ecc1b57990e...@pcvanluk, Luk Vangenechten luk.vangenech...@skynet.be writes Hi I've already mailed to Microvitec but i'm sorry to say their answer was Unfortunately we don't have anything to offer which is compatible with the QL. Luk. Hi Luk, The old Microvitec Monitors are fine with the QL, or any RGB output. You will need to either solder up a cable, yourself, or get one made up. Wiring diagrams should be found in the old computer magazines. I have used Microvitec Monitors for years with both the BBC B, and the QL. They are very reliable monitors. There is a Sinclair QL vision monitor on SellMyRetro.com at the moment - http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/Sinclair_QL_Vision_Colour_Monit or-954 I also have a Microvitec Cub which I need to test. The main issue is sending these monitors anywhere - I have never had one survive transit (except taken in a car) yet. Hi Rich, The early ones had a metal case - to survive the tough world of school use. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9
Hi I've already mailed to Microvitec but i'm sorry to say their answer was Unfortunately we don't have anything to offer which is compatible with the QL. Luk. - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9 I'm currently using the RF output but I ordered a converter board from Jammaboards to be able to hook the RGB output to a VGA monitor so that should help isolate the problem. Well, actually I won't be needing the TV output anymore if the converter board works as advertised but it would be nice to be able to fix the problem anyway. Petri Does your television have a SCART/Peritel connector? While you wait for the RGB converter board and take time to experiment with it, you might be able to get a slightly better picture via the SCART/Peritel connection to the television if you have suitable plugs (QL 8-pin DIN plug and a Peritel or SCART connector for the TV) There's an article about how to do this on my website at: http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/docs/hardware/index.html Tony Firshman (TF Services) has in the past supplied me with a ready-made suitable lead for the QL. I forget the price, although I think it was about 10 or 12 pounds plus our Value Added Tax (VAT). For me, anyway, this type of connection didn't give as good a picture as a proper monitor connection, but it was better than the RF picture. There is also the possibility of getting a second-user QL monitor. Microvitec in England have some refurbished QL monitors, according to a member of this list in March this year - the contact email address given was sales AT microvitec DOT co DOT uk . They have TTL-compatible LCD displays, though these cost a thousand pounds or more, and also have some of their old QL monitors. And I guess that both eBay and Rich Mellor's Sell My Retro sites might have QL monitors from time to time too. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3129 - datum van uitgifte: 09/11/10 20:34:00 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9
In message 8dc375c04ba74aaa97ecc1b57990e...@pcvanluk, Luk Vangenechten luk.vangenech...@skynet.be writes Hi I've already mailed to Microvitec but i'm sorry to say their answer was Unfortunately we don't have anything to offer which is compatible with the QL. Luk. Hi Luk, The old Microvitec Monitors are fine with the QL, or any RGB output. You will need to either solder up a cable, yourself, or get one made up. Wiring diagrams should be found in the old computer magazines. I have used Microvitec Monitors for years with both the BBC B, and the QL. They are very reliable monitors. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9
On 13/09/2010 21:44, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message 8dc375c04ba74aaa97ecc1b57990e...@pcvanluk, Luk Vangenechten luk.vangenech...@skynet.be writes Hi I've already mailed to Microvitec but i'm sorry to say their answer was Unfortunately we don't have anything to offer which is compatible with the QL. Luk. Hi Luk, The old Microvitec Monitors are fine with the QL, or any RGB output. You will need to either solder up a cable, yourself, or get one made up. Wiring diagrams should be found in the old computer magazines. I have used Microvitec Monitors for years with both the BBC B, and the QL. They are very reliable monitors. There is a Sinclair QL vision monitor on SellMyRetro.com at the moment - http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/Sinclair_QL_Vision_Colour_Monitor-954 I also have a Microvitec Cub which I need to test. The main issue is sending these monitors anywhere - I have never had one survive transit (except taken in a car) yet. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9
Thanks for the pointers, Dilwyn. And by the way, your web site is absolutely marvellous, a treasure trove of information! I think I will try the SCART connection just to see if I get a better picture and also to see if the picture changes when the QL warms up. I must say, 25 years ago I couldn't appreciate how advanced QDOS was for the time (multitasking, pipes etc). Then again, the local computer stores over here didn't carry the necessary books to learn all of that stuff and ordering them from abroad was a nightmare so it was next to impossible to find out about the inner workings of the machine. Last week, I managed to purchase a copy of The Sinclar QDOS companion - I wish I had had that book all those years back :) Thanks, Petri On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: I'm currently using the RF output but I ordered a converter board from Jammaboards to be able to hook the RGB output to a VGA monitor so that should help isolate the problem. Well, actually I won't be needing the TV output anymore if the converter board works as advertised but it would be nice to be able to fix the problem anyway. Petri Does your television have a SCART/Peritel connector? While you wait for the RGB converter board and take time to experiment with it, you might be able to get a slightly better picture via the SCART/Peritel connection to the television if you have suitable plugs (QL 8-pin DIN plug and a Peritel or SCART connector for the TV) There's an article about how to do this on my website at: http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/docs/hardware/index.html Tony Firshman (TF Services) has in the past supplied me with a ready-made suitable lead for the QL. I forget the price, although I think it was about 10 or 12 pounds plus our Value Added Tax (VAT). For me, anyway, this type of connection didn't give as good a picture as a proper monitor connection, but it was better than the RF picture. There is also the possibility of getting a second-user QL monitor. Microvitec in England have some refurbished QL monitors, according to a member of this list in March this year - the contact email address given was sales AT microvitec DOT co DOT uk . They have TTL-compatible LCD displays, though these cost a thousand pounds or more, and also have some of their old QL monitors. And I guess that both eBay and Rich Mellor's Sell My Retro sites might have QL monitors from time to time too. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9
Petri Pellinen wrote, on 12/Sep/10 18:05 | Sep12: Thanks for the pointers, Dilwyn. And by the way, your web site is absolutely marvellous, a treasure trove of information! I think I will try the SCART connection just to see if I get a better picture and also to see if the picture changes when the QL warms up. You can experiment with the series resistors. I think I used 200k. I must say, 25 years ago I couldn't appreciate how advanced QDOS was for the time (multitasking, pipes etc). Then again, the local computer stores over here Where is 'here' - Finland? didn't carry the necessary books to learn all of that stuff and ordering them from abroad was a nightmare so it was next to impossible to find out about the inner workings of the machine. Last week, I managed to purchase a copy of The Sinclar QDOS companion - I wish I had had that book all those years back :) I can't remember when QRAM arrived - probably later than 1985. It was only then the true potential of multitasking became obvious. QDOS had no screen control/refresh which is pretty essential. Of course it had support for the pre-emptive multitasking, but left it up to addon programs to implement it. My one and only machine code program though (prior to I think Qram) was a small multitasking on-screen clock which I still use. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
