Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-10 Thread Norman Dunbar

Morning Arnold, (or is it!)

On 10/08/12 09:18, arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote:

I have got a pc with Linux/Ubuntu as the only o/s, can I get QL emulators to 
run on it. If so how?.

My laptop is Linux - OpenSuse 12.1 - and it runs QPC under Wine.

Simply install Wine and then double-click your exe file to run it, if it 
request you to specify a program to open the file with, choose wine.


That is all you need to do.


Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-10 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 32 bit Ubuntu 10.04 - which is what I use for my 32 bit Linux version 
of QStripper:



sudo apt-get install wine

Type your own password, if prompted.

You will be prompted to confirm the "extras" to be downloaded. Type Y 
and press enter.


After a while, it will complete and Wine will be installed. You may have 
to agree to a Microsoft licence for some fonts that they supply, as part 
of the installation.


Copy your Qpc files to a new folder in your home directory, I'm assuming 
/home/yourname/qpc.


At the command line, run the command:

wine ~/qpc/qpc2.exe &

(The ~ is short for /home/yourname and the & means run it in batch, 
freeing up your terminal session.


After a quick configuration of the ~/.wine directory, you will be shown 
the first dialogue for Qpc where you can choose devices and so on.


HTH

Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-10 Thread arnold . clarke





 From: Norman Dunbar 
To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com 
Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012, 15:07
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
 
On 32 bit Ubuntu 10.04 - which is what I use for my 32 bit Linux version of 
QStripper:


    sudo apt-get install wine

Type your own password, if prompted.

You will be prompted to confirm the "extras" to be downloaded. Type Y and press 
enter.

After a while, it will complete and Wine will be installed. You may have to 
agree to a Microsoft licence for some fonts that they supply, as part of the 
installation.

Copy your Qpc files to a new folder in your home directory, I'm assuming 
/home/yourname/qpc.

At the command line, run the command:

    wine ~/qpc/qpc2.exe &

(The ~ is short for /home/yourname and the & means run it in batch, freeing up 
your terminal session.

After a quick configuration of the ~/.wine directory, you will be shown the 
first dialogue for Qpc where you can choose devices and so on.

Noman  thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command line:sorry.

Arnold
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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-10 Thread Computer Research Centrum, Ltd
>Noman  thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command line:sorry.

Just find and run the Terminal application.
http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png
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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-10 Thread Tony Firshman

Computer Research Centrum, Ltd wrote, on 10/Aug/12 19:22 | Aug10:

Noman  thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command line:sorry.


Just find and run the Terminal application.
http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png
Wow - really the *whole* point of using Linux is the sophistication of 
the command line. Linux defaults to the command line and the GUI has to 
be run as a program.


That is what I especially like about Macbook OS X.  The command line is 
a flavour of Linux.


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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-10 Thread Tobias Fröschle

Am 10.08.2012 um 21:49 schrieb Tony Firshman:

Tony,

> Computer Research Centrum, Ltd wrote, on 10/Aug/12 19:22 | Aug10:
>>> Noman  thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command 
>>> line:sorry.
>> 
>> Just find and run the Terminal application.
>> http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png
> Wow - really the *whole* point of using Linux is the sophistication of the 
> command line. Linux defaults to the command line and the GUI has to be run as 
> a program.
> 
> That is what I especially like about Macbook OS X.  The command line is a 
> flavour of Linux.

You can do he same thing by double-clicking into the right places ;)
It's just much harder to explain ;)

Tobias
(Who also enjoys his MacOS X command line every now and then)

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> Tony
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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-10 Thread nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk
Arnold,

On mine, under menu button, system, terminal.

Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-10 Thread nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk
Sorry, accessories, then terminal.

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Arnold,

On mine, under menu button, system, terminal.

Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-11 Thread Bryan Horstmann
The attraction of Linux for many, Tony, is getting away from Windows; we 
are just users and any command line actions have to be done meticulously 
from instruction as we have no everyday need of it and so have no 
familiarity with the syntax.  Word processor, spreadsheet, pictures, 
scanning, fax and internet are my simple main requirements; the QL lets 
me do some simple Basic programing.  I hope to get Ql emulated on my 
awaited R-pi, but I must rely on all you experts to get it sorted for 
me. (and much thanks to all those on to it).


Bryan H


On 10/08/2012 08:49, Tony Firshman wrote:

Computer Research Centrum, Ltd wrote, on 10/Aug/12 19:22 | Aug10:
Noman  thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command 
line:sorry.


Just find and run the Terminal application.
http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png 

Wow - really the *whole* point of using Linux is the sophistication of 
the command line. Linux defaults to the command line and the GUI has 
to be run as a program.


That is what I especially like about Macbook OS X.  The command line 
is a flavour of Linux.


Tony




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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-11 Thread arnold . clarke





 From: "Computer Research Centrum, Ltd" 
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com 
Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012, 19:22
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
 
>Noman  thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command line:sorry.

Just find and run the Terminal application.
http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png
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Hi, Norman,
    I have got as far installing wine, but the bit about 
agreeing with the Micrsoft conditions I click on 'ok' and nothing happens.

I have tried several times.

 I notice I now have an icon in home-dash marked terminal. Great 

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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-12 Thread Norman Dunbar

Arnold,
>  I have got as far installing wine, but the bit 
about agreeing with the Micrsoft conditions I click on 'ok' and nothing 
happens.


What you have to do is use the down arrow to get to the bottom of the 
agreement. Then the OK button is enabled. Then you can press TAB to make 
sure the highlight is over it, then press ENTER to activate it.


It's a ploy by MS to make you pretend to have read the agreement before 
you simply click OK!



Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-12 Thread Tony Firshman

Norman Dunbar wrote, on 12/Aug/12 16:19 | Aug12:

Arnold,
 >  I have got as far installing wine, but the bit
about agreeing with the Micrsoft conditions I click on 'ok' and nothing
happens.

What you have to do is use the down arrow to get to the bottom of the
agreement. Then the OK button is enabled. Then you can press TAB to make
sure the highlight is over it, then press ENTER to activate it.

It's a ploy by MS to make you pretend to have read the agreement before
you simply click OK!


There ought to be a prize to *anyone* who has read any of these 
agreements.  I certainly haven't. Right at the bottom, I am sure, is the 
one allowing M$ to allow hackers access to their systems - "M$ accept no 
responsibility for loss of data or misuse of the system" (8-)#



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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-12 Thread Norman Dunbar

Afternoon Tony,

On 12/08/12 16:23, Tony Firshman wrote:

There ought to be a prize to *anyone* who has read any of these
agreements.  I certainly haven't. Right at the bottom, I am sure, is the
one allowing M$ to allow hackers access to their systems - "M$ accept no
responsibility for loss of data or misuse of the system" (8-)#
I'd get about half a prize then. I once read as far as I could, but the 
language is designed to irritate and confuse people so the nasties, I 
suspect, are buried in the text about half way down.


I used to have to write reports at work, these were "urgent" and 
"necessary". I'd put a bit of text in saying "are you still reading? 
Claim your free £5.00 note from Norman". Still haven't paid anyone yet!


:-)

Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-14 Thread arnold . clarke





 From: "arnold.cla...@talk21.com" 
To: "ql-us...@q-v-d.com"  
Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2012, 13:55
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
 






 From: "Computer Research Centrum, Ltd" 
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com 
Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012, 19:22
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
 
>Noman  thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command line:sorry.

Just find and run the Terminal application.
http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png
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Hi, Norman,
    I have got as far installing wine, but the bit about 
agreeing with the Micrsoft conditions I click on 'ok' and nothing happens.

I have tried several times.

 I notice I now have an icon in home-dash marked terminal. Great 

Arnold
 Hi, Norman, 
 Sorry to bother you again, but I have entered wine 
home/qpc2/qpac2.exe in terminal and the response is  can't find 
'home//qpc2/qpc2.exe' 
I have entered just 'wine' and I get three options 'wine - with argument'
  'wine - 
version'
   'wine - 
help'
when I enter 'wine /help I get message : cannot find L"C;\\windows\\system 32\\ 
help.exe."

I copied QPC2 from windows folder onto a usb flash drive, then, using the usb 
drive copied QPC2 into a folder marked QPC2 in 'home' on the ubuntu machine.

Arnold
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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-14 Thread nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk
Arnold,

Linux is case sensitive.

If you created a folder called QPC in your home folder then try 

wine ~/QPC/qpc2.exe

Which assumes that the above is the correct spelling. You can check in your 
file manager for the correct folder and filenames, or:

cd ~
ls

If QPC  shows up:

ls QPC

where "ls" in the above is a lower case ell and an ess.

You should now have the full path to the exe file, so, substitute as 
appropriate into the wine command above.

Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-14 Thread Tony Firshman

arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote, on 14/Aug/12 18:24 | Aug14:







  From: "Computer Research Centrum, Ltd" 
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012, 19:22
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux


Norman  thanks for the info but I do not know how to get the command line:sorry.



>>> Norman wrote:

Just find and run the Terminal application.
http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png


>> Arnold wrote:

I have got as far installing wine, but the bit about agreeing with the Micrsoft 
conditions I click on 'ok' and nothing happens.
I have tried several times.
 I notice I now have an icon in home-dash marked terminal. Great


> Arnold wrote again:

Sorry to bother you again, but I have entered wine home/qpc2/qpac2.exe in 
terminal
and the response is  can't find 'home//qpc2/qpc2.exe'
I have entered just 'wine' and I get three options 'wine - with argument'
'wine - version'
'wine - help'
when I enter 'wine /help I get message : cannot find L"C;\\windows\\system 32\\ 
help.exe."

I copied QPC2 from windows folder onto a usb flash drive, then, using the usb 
drive copied QPC2 into a folder marked QPC2 in 'home' on the ubuntu machine.



The command to run is /home/qpc2/qpc2.exe

A misplaced '/'.
The first '/' tells the system to start at the root, and the remaining 
'/'s are directory separators (just like the windows '\').
Mind you it is hard to figure what you originally did - I bet there are 
some mistypes above (8-)#


You can also 'cd /home/qpc2' (and ENTER) and type "./qpc2" (and ENTER).

Type "$PATH" and ENTER - this will give a list of default directories. 
If you copy qpc2 to one of those, then all you need to type is 'qpc2' 
from anywhere.  Some default directories may need root access.


BTW you need to configure your mailer for in-line quoting with the '>' 
character.  As time goes by your emails (with replies) are becoming more 
and more unreadable.

I have edited this one to the way it should have been (possibly)!

Tony


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Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux

2012-08-14 Thread Jiri Dolezal

The second thing,

I have entered just 'wine' and I get three options 'wine - with  
argument'
   
'wine - version'
   
 'wine - help'
when I enter 'wine /help I get message : cannot find L"C;\\windows\ 
\system 32\\ help.exe."


Yo should use -- (double minus) instead of / (slash).
Not
wine /help (which tries to find and run program help.exe), but
wine --help

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