Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
Morning Arnold, (or is it!) On 10/08/12 09:18, arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote: I have got a pc with Linux/Ubuntu as the only o/s, can I get QL emulators to run on it. If so how?. My laptop is Linux - OpenSuse 12.1 - and it runs QPC under Wine. Simply install Wine and then double-click your exe file to run it, if it request you to specify a program to open the file with, choose wine. That is all you need to do. Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
On 32 bit Ubuntu 10.04 - which is what I use for my 32 bit Linux version of QStripper: sudo apt-get install wine Type your own password, if prompted. You will be prompted to confirm the "extras" to be downloaded. Type Y and press enter. After a while, it will complete and Wine will be installed. You may have to agree to a Microsoft licence for some fonts that they supply, as part of the installation. Copy your Qpc files to a new folder in your home directory, I'm assuming /home/yourname/qpc. At the command line, run the command: wine ~/qpc/qpc2.exe & (The ~ is short for /home/yourname and the & means run it in batch, freeing up your terminal session. After a quick configuration of the ~/.wine directory, you will be shown the first dialogue for Qpc where you can choose devices and so on. HTH Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
From: Norman Dunbar To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012, 15:07 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux On 32 bit Ubuntu 10.04 - which is what I use for my 32 bit Linux version of QStripper: sudo apt-get install wine Type your own password, if prompted. You will be prompted to confirm the "extras" to be downloaded. Type Y and press enter. After a while, it will complete and Wine will be installed. You may have to agree to a Microsoft licence for some fonts that they supply, as part of the installation. Copy your Qpc files to a new folder in your home directory, I'm assuming /home/yourname/qpc. At the command line, run the command: wine ~/qpc/qpc2.exe & (The ~ is short for /home/yourname and the & means run it in batch, freeing up your terminal session. After a quick configuration of the ~/.wine directory, you will be shown the first dialogue for Qpc where you can choose devices and so on. Noman thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command line:sorry. Arnold ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
>Noman thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command line:sorry. Just find and run the Terminal application. http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
Computer Research Centrum, Ltd wrote, on 10/Aug/12 19:22 | Aug10: Noman thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command line:sorry. Just find and run the Terminal application. http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png Wow - really the *whole* point of using Linux is the sophistication of the command line. Linux defaults to the command line and the GUI has to be run as a program. That is what I especially like about Macbook OS X. The command line is a flavour of Linux. Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
Am 10.08.2012 um 21:49 schrieb Tony Firshman: Tony, > Computer Research Centrum, Ltd wrote, on 10/Aug/12 19:22 | Aug10: >>> Noman thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command >>> line:sorry. >> >> Just find and run the Terminal application. >> http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png > Wow - really the *whole* point of using Linux is the sophistication of the > command line. Linux defaults to the command line and the GUI has to be run as > a program. > > That is what I especially like about Macbook OS X. The command line is a > flavour of Linux. You can do he same thing by double-clicking into the right places ;) It's just much harder to explain ;) Tobias (Who also enjoys his MacOS X command line every now and then) > > Tony > > > -- > t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk > Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman >TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
Arnold, On mine, under menu button, system, terminal. Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
Sorry, accessories, then terminal. Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk" To: Subject: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux Date: Fri, Aug 10, 2012 23:09 Arnold, On mine, under menu button, system, terminal. Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
The attraction of Linux for many, Tony, is getting away from Windows; we are just users and any command line actions have to be done meticulously from instruction as we have no everyday need of it and so have no familiarity with the syntax. Word processor, spreadsheet, pictures, scanning, fax and internet are my simple main requirements; the QL lets me do some simple Basic programing. I hope to get Ql emulated on my awaited R-pi, but I must rely on all you experts to get it sorted for me. (and much thanks to all those on to it). Bryan H On 10/08/2012 08:49, Tony Firshman wrote: Computer Research Centrum, Ltd wrote, on 10/Aug/12 19:22 | Aug10: Noman thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command line:sorry. Just find and run the Terminal application. http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png Wow - really the *whole* point of using Linux is the sophistication of the command line. Linux defaults to the command line and the GUI has to be run as a program. That is what I especially like about Macbook OS X. The command line is a flavour of Linux. Tony ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
From: "Computer Research Centrum, Ltd" To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012, 19:22 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux >Noman thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command line:sorry. Just find and run the Terminal application. http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi, Norman, I have got as far installing wine, but the bit about agreeing with the Micrsoft conditions I click on 'ok' and nothing happens. I have tried several times. I notice I now have an icon in home-dash marked terminal. Great Arnold ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
Arnold, > I have got as far installing wine, but the bit about agreeing with the Micrsoft conditions I click on 'ok' and nothing happens. What you have to do is use the down arrow to get to the bottom of the agreement. Then the OK button is enabled. Then you can press TAB to make sure the highlight is over it, then press ENTER to activate it. It's a ploy by MS to make you pretend to have read the agreement before you simply click OK! Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
Norman Dunbar wrote, on 12/Aug/12 16:19 | Aug12: Arnold, > I have got as far installing wine, but the bit about agreeing with the Micrsoft conditions I click on 'ok' and nothing happens. What you have to do is use the down arrow to get to the bottom of the agreement. Then the OK button is enabled. Then you can press TAB to make sure the highlight is over it, then press ENTER to activate it. It's a ploy by MS to make you pretend to have read the agreement before you simply click OK! There ought to be a prize to *anyone* who has read any of these agreements. I certainly haven't. Right at the bottom, I am sure, is the one allowing M$ to allow hackers access to their systems - "M$ accept no responsibility for loss of data or misuse of the system" (8-)# Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
Afternoon Tony, On 12/08/12 16:23, Tony Firshman wrote: There ought to be a prize to *anyone* who has read any of these agreements. I certainly haven't. Right at the bottom, I am sure, is the one allowing M$ to allow hackers access to their systems - "M$ accept no responsibility for loss of data or misuse of the system" (8-)# I'd get about half a prize then. I once read as far as I could, but the language is designed to irritate and confuse people so the nasties, I suspect, are buried in the text about half way down. I used to have to write reports at work, these were "urgent" and "necessary". I'd put a bit of text in saying "are you still reading? Claim your free £5.00 note from Norman". Still haven't paid anyone yet! :-) Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
From: "arnold.cla...@talk21.com" To: "ql-us...@q-v-d.com" Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2012, 13:55 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux From: "Computer Research Centrum, Ltd" To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012, 19:22 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux >Noman thanks for the info but I do not know how toget the command line:sorry. Just find and run the Terminal application. http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi, Norman, I have got as far installing wine, but the bit about agreeing with the Micrsoft conditions I click on 'ok' and nothing happens. I have tried several times. I notice I now have an icon in home-dash marked terminal. Great Arnold Hi, Norman, Sorry to bother you again, but I have entered wine home/qpc2/qpac2.exe in terminal and the response is can't find 'home//qpc2/qpc2.exe' I have entered just 'wine' and I get three options 'wine - with argument' 'wine - version' 'wine - help' when I enter 'wine /help I get message : cannot find L"C;\\windows\\system 32\\ help.exe." I copied QPC2 from windows folder onto a usb flash drive, then, using the usb drive copied QPC2 into a folder marked QPC2 in 'home' on the ubuntu machine. Arnold ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
Arnold, Linux is case sensitive. If you created a folder called QPC in your home folder then try wine ~/QPC/qpc2.exe Which assumes that the above is the correct spelling. You can check in your file manager for the correct folder and filenames, or: cd ~ ls If QPC shows up: ls QPC where "ls" in the above is a lower case ell and an ess. You should now have the full path to the exe file, so, substitute as appropriate into the wine command above. Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote, on 14/Aug/12 18:24 | Aug14: From: "Computer Research Centrum, Ltd" To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012, 19:22 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux Norman thanks for the info but I do not know how to get the command line:sorry. >>> Norman wrote: Just find and run the Terminal application. http://technical-itch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/ubuntu-terminal.png >> Arnold wrote: I have got as far installing wine, but the bit about agreeing with the Micrsoft conditions I click on 'ok' and nothing happens. I have tried several times. I notice I now have an icon in home-dash marked terminal. Great > Arnold wrote again: Sorry to bother you again, but I have entered wine home/qpc2/qpac2.exe in terminal and the response is can't find 'home//qpc2/qpc2.exe' I have entered just 'wine' and I get three options 'wine - with argument' 'wine - version' 'wine - help' when I enter 'wine /help I get message : cannot find L"C;\\windows\\system 32\\ help.exe." I copied QPC2 from windows folder onto a usb flash drive, then, using the usb drive copied QPC2 into a folder marked QPC2 in 'home' on the ubuntu machine. The command to run is /home/qpc2/qpc2.exe A misplaced '/'. The first '/' tells the system to start at the root, and the remaining '/'s are directory separators (just like the windows '\'). Mind you it is hard to figure what you originally did - I bet there are some mistypes above (8-)# You can also 'cd /home/qpc2' (and ENTER) and type "./qpc2" (and ENTER). Type "$PATH" and ENTER - this will give a list of default directories. If you copy qpc2 to one of those, then all you need to type is 'qpc2' from anywhere. Some default directories may need root access. BTW you need to configure your mailer for in-line quoting with the '>' character. As time goes by your emails (with replies) are becoming more and more unreadable. I have edited this one to the way it should have been (possibly)! Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
The second thing, I have entered just 'wine' and I get three options 'wine - with argument' 'wine - version' 'wine - help' when I enter 'wine /help I get message : cannot find L"C;\\windows\ \system 32\\ help.exe." Yo should use -- (double minus) instead of / (slash). Not wine /help (which tries to find and run program help.exe), but wine --help ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm