RE: Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-25 Thread Ian . Pine

> Did it ever happen to clive sinclair ?( ha, back OT).

Not sure but he was, allegedly, once involved in a brawl with Chris 
Curry (then head of Acorn and former employee of Sir C).

-Original Message-
From: wlenerz 
Sent: 25 May 2001 13:18
To: ql-users
Cc: wlenerz
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election


On 24 May 2001, at 18:23, Geoff Wicks wrote:

( explanation about a Mr Evans.)

Alright, thanks, must have been quite a sight.

Don't politicians expect that sort of thing? Didn't Billy Boy Gates 
also get creamed once in Belgium? Did it ever happen to clive 
sinclair ?( ha, back OT).





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Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-25 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

On 24 May 2001, at 18:23, Geoff Wicks wrote:

( explanation about a Mr Evans.)

Alright, thanks, must have been quite a sight.

Don't politicians expect that sort of thing? Didn't Billy Boy Gates 
also get creamed once in Belgium? Did it ever happen to clive 
sinclair ?( ha, back OT).






Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-24 Thread Geoff Wicks


- Original Message -
From: Wolfgang Lenerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election


> On 23 May 2001, at 8:37, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
>
> > The ironic thing is that this incident seems to have ENHANCED John
> > Prescott's reputation as a straight-talking no-nonsense down to earth
> > politician. The sad part of it all was that everyone concentrated on
> > Prescott and Evans, and little mention was made of the two female
> > assistants who went down in the incident.

>Would anyone mind telling me what the HELL you are talking about here.

Since no one else has, the present UK General Election was one of the most
boring on record until a certain Mr. Evans, with exceptionally good aim,
threw an egg at the Deputy Prime Minister. He retaliated by punching the egg
thrower in full view of the TV cameras.

It was then like a great sports event. Different camera angles, slow motion,
action replay. It kept us all away from our QL's for a couple of days. Hence
our need to be off topic.

Geoff Wicks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://members.tripod.co.uk/geoffwicks/election.htm




Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-24 Thread Phoebus Dokos

At 11:31 ðì 24/5/2001 +0200, you wrote:
>On 23 May 2001, at 8:37, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
>
> > The ironic thing is that this incident seems to have ENHANCED John
> > Prescott's reputation as a straight-talking no-nonsense down to earth
> > politician. The sad part of it all was that everyone concentrated on
> > Prescott and Evans, and little mention was made of the two female
> > assistants who went down in the incident.
>
>Would anyone mind telling me what the HELL you're talking about
>here?
>
>Wolfgang

Oh it's easy :-)
Geoff Wicks' QL UK election software (so we are ON topic loosely)

Phoebus :-)




Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-24 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

On 23 May 2001, at 8:37, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

> The ironic thing is that this incident seems to have ENHANCED John
> Prescott's reputation as a straight-talking no-nonsense down to earth
> politician. The sad part of it all was that everyone concentrated on
> Prescott and Evans, and little mention was made of the two female
> assistants who went down in the incident.

Would anyone mind telling me what the HELL you're talking about 
here?

Wolfgang



Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-23 Thread Geoff Wicks


- Original Message - 
From: Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

 
> Umm, how do I get this email back on topic? Perhaps Craig Evans's face
> is as black as a QL from the bruising he took???
> 

Try his "mullet" hair style. It dates from about the time the QL was born.

Geoff Wicks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://members.tripod.co.uk/geoffwicks/election.htm
 



Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-23 Thread P Witte

Malcolm Cadman writes:

> ... a mite cynical, yet agree with some of it.  My difficulty with
> politicians is that they are no longer allowing democracy to take
place.

Oh, democracy is working alright: One dollar = One vote; its business
as usual.

The problem with the system is that anyone setting out to change it
either gets eliminated or assimilated.

A bit like the computer industry, perhaps?


Per





RE: Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-23 Thread Ian . Pine

And after the 10 days?
The Labour party's election campaigns would be fully funded for the 
next ten years, Windoze would be the only legal 'operating system' and 
anyone caught in possession of a QL would be thrown in prison. :(

-Original Message-
From: tncj 
Sent: 23 May 2001 15:45
To: ql-users
Cc: tncj
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election


At 08:37 ðì 23/5/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>Norman Dunbar (I think!) wrote:
>
> >As a politician it is the public's right to throw eggs, fruit and
>abuse as
> >much as they like - without getting caught, as retaliation is not
>allowed.
> >Send him off !!
>
>Do bear in mind though that if you do throw eggs, tomatoes or whatever
>at politicians like John Prescott, you make sure you either do so from
>a safe distance, or step back out of range afterwards. Looking forward
>to someone doing the same to William Hague to see if he tries out his
>Karate or Judo (can't remember which he does). Then Tony Blair might
>hit someone with a Fender Stratocaster guitar...the possibilities are
>endless.

Well I don't know JACK about the elections in the UK... what I do know 
though is that if
Mr. Blair hits ANYONE with a Strat I will personally fly to the UK, 
make 
him wear a Marshall Valvestate (That's an AMP) as a hat and lock him in 
a 
room with Bill Gates naked for at least 10 days there you have it 
gentlemen :-)

Phoebus





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RE: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-23 Thread Norman Dunbar

>> I will personally fly to the UK, make 
>> him wear a Marshall Valvestate (That's an AMP) as a hat and lock him in a

>> room with Bill Gates naked for at least 10 days

Now I have to say that that is a picture I shall NOT even try to visualise
:o)

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Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-23 Thread Phoebus Dokos

At 08:37 ðì 23/5/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>Norman Dunbar (I think!) wrote:
>
> >As a politician it is the public's right to throw eggs, fruit and
>abuse as
> >much as they like - without getting caught, as retaliation is not
>allowed.
> >Send him off !!
>
>Do bear in mind though that if you do throw eggs, tomatoes or whatever
>at politicians like John Prescott, you make sure you either do so from
>a safe distance, or step back out of range afterwards. Looking forward
>to someone doing the same to William Hague to see if he tries out his
>Karate or Judo (can't remember which he does). Then Tony Blair might
>hit someone with a Fender Stratocaster guitar...the possibilities are
>endless.

Well I don't know JACK about the elections in the UK... what I do know 
though is that if
Mr. Blair hits ANYONE with a Strat I will personally fly to the UK, make 
him wear a Marshall Valvestate (That's an AMP) as a hat and lock him in a 
room with Bill Gates naked for at least 10 days there you have it 
gentlemen :-)

Phoebus






Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Norman Dunbar (I think!) wrote:

>As a politician it is the public's right to throw eggs, fruit and
abuse as
>much as they like - without getting caught, as retaliation is not
allowed.
>Send him off !!

Do bear in mind though that if you do throw eggs, tomatoes or whatever
at politicians like John Prescott, you make sure you either do so from
a safe distance, or step back out of range afterwards. Looking forward
to someone doing the same to William Hague to see if he tries out his
Karate or Judo (can't remember which he does). Then Tony Blair might
hit someone with a Fender Stratocaster guitar...the possibilities are
endless.

The ironic thing is that this incident seems to have ENHANCED John
Prescott's reputation as a straight-talking no-nonsense down to earth
politician. The sad part of it all was that everyone concentrated on
Prescott and Evans, and little mention was made of the two female
assistants who went down in the incident.

>Good on the Welsh that's what I say.

Prescott and the egg thrower are BOTH Welsh (Prescott born in
Prestatyn, but lived outside Wales most of his adult life)

>And in a vain attempt at turning this back to subjects related to teh
QL,
>Jochen - I have the correct docs, I found them in my back room this
morning
>- where I had stored them so that I wouldn't lose them !

Umm, how do I get this email back on topic? Perhaps Craig Evans's face
is as black as a QL from the bruising he took???

--
Dilwyn Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html




Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-22 Thread Malcolm Cadman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
, Norman Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>-Original Message-
>From: Malcolm Cadman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election
>
>
>
>>> Thanks ... this will make it more fun following the current election
>>> too.
>
>Excuse me Malcolm, but did you mention the word 'fun' in the same sentence
>as 'election' ?
>Shurley shome mishtake :o)

He .. he .. well, the fun bit was with the amount of manipulation that
the software allows you to do.

By the way, I have downloaded the new version, and all appears to be
working OK.

>Here is my preview of how the election will go :
>
>1. We will all get very bored very quickly.
>2. Most people won't bother to vote.
>3. The government will get in.
>4. All their promises to make life better/easier/less taxed will be
>forgotten.
>5. We won't notice any difference.
>6. Except for more tax :o(
>7. They are all a bunch of lying self centered good for nothing low lifes.
>8. None of then have or use (or even know) what a QL is. (Had to get back on
>topic :o) )

... a mite cynical, yet agree with some of it.  My difficulty with
politicians is that they are no longer allowing democracy to take place.

-- 
Malcolm Cadman



RE: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-21 Thread Norman Dunbar

-Original Message-
From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election


>> Surely there must be just one somewhere who isn't? Just one wee one?
That must be Charles Kennedy - the wee Jock then !

>> Sadly, I'm in the QPC party by now... (not that it stops me hoping to
>> have enough money to buy a Q60 dream machine one day
And permission from She Who Must Be Obeyed as well :o)

Norman.



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RE: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-21 Thread Norman Dunbar

Hi Geoff,

>> Come now! With views like yours surely you enjoyed the punch-up! ;-)

Actually I missed it, however, it didn't take long to be sent out as (a) a
game, (b) an interactive HTML web page and (c) a MPEG movie. I did enjoy the
movie :o)
Mind you, the fact that he looked the guy in the eye for a couple of second
does tend to imply that it wasn't 'self defence' at all. The man's a thug
and always has been.
As a politician it is the public's right to throw eggs, fruit and abuse as
much as they like - without getting caught, as retaliation is not allowed.
Send him off !!

Good on the Welsh that's what I say.

And in a vain attempt at turning this back to subjects related to teh QL,
Jochen - I have the correct docs, I found them in my back room this morning
- where I had stored them so that I wouldn't lose them !

Regards, Norman.



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Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-21 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Norman Dunbar wrote:

>Here is my preview of how the election will go :
>
>1. We will all get very bored very quickly.

Will? Apart from the Deputy PM's attempt to liven things up we were
already bored.

>2. Most people won't bother to vote.

>3. The government will get in.

It doesn't matter who you vote for, a government will always get in.

>7. They are all a bunch of lying self centered good for nothing low
lifes.

Surely there must be just one somewhere who isn't? Just one wee one?

>8. None of then have or use (or even know) what a QL is. (Had to get
back on
>topic :o) )

Someone with enough money for a deposit please stand for the 'I Intend
To Manufacture Q60s And Goldfires' party please. You only have to get
5% of the vote I think to get your deposit back.

Sadly, I'm in the QPC party by now... (not that it stops me hoping to
have enough money to buy a Q60 dream machine one day so I can manage
without the dreaded Windoze).

--
Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-21 Thread John Hitchcock

Hi Bill in the US!
Thank you - off topic or no, as Phoebus has said, "perceptive".
John in Wales






Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-21 Thread Geoff Wicks


- Original Message -
From: Norman Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: RE: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election


> -Original Message-
> From: Malcolm Cadman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election
>
>
>
> >> Thanks ... this will make it more fun following the current election
> >> too.
>
> Excuse me Malcolm, but did you mention the word 'fun' in the same sentence
> as 'election' ?
> Shurley shome mishtake :o)
>
> Here is my preview of how the election will go :
>

Come now! With views like yours surely you enjoyed the punch-up! ;-)

Geoff Wicks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-21 Thread Phoebus Dokos

At 10:19 ðì 21/5/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Well if politics in the UK is like over here (US) most politicians start 
>out as
>lawyers and if your career pool starts out with the bottom of the barrel like
>that what can you expect. On top of that elections are won by ad campaigns and
>money which doubles the problem. But even though your vote seems futile it 
>could
>even be worse. Being able to vote sets limits that all politicians find 
>painful
>to cross. So perhaps you are voting to prevent your worst nightmares 
>instead of
>your fondest dreams. In the market place you often can not do that which 
>is why
>we have Microsoft.
>
>-- Bill

And to the (very pereceptive) observations of Bill I might add... 
AT&T/Bell/Verizon :-)

Phoebus




Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-21 Thread Bill Cable

Well if politics in the UK is like over here (US) most politicians start out as
lawyers and if your career pool starts out with the bottom of the barrel like
that what can you expect. On top of that elections are won by ad campaigns and
money which doubles the problem. But even though your vote seems futile it could
even be worse. Being able to vote sets limits that all politicians find painful
to cross. So perhaps you are voting to prevent your worst nightmares instead of
your fondest dreams. In the market place you often can not do that which is why
we have Microsoft.

-- Bill




RE: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-21 Thread Norman Dunbar

Richard,

harsh, but fair :o)

Norman.



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-Original Message-
From: Richard Zidlicky
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election



that does have advantages: didn't we all enjoy the news how particularly
hard most parliaments worldwide have been struck with the ILOVEYOU virus?
The best proof they are a bunch technically clueless idiots who know
nothing better than use their computers to view porn for our money.

We wouldn't have this fun would they use sane software.

Bye
Richard



Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-21 Thread Richard Zidlicky

On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 08:10:24AM +0100, Norman Dunbar wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: Malcolm Cadman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election
> 
> 
> 
> >> Thanks ... this will make it more fun following the current election
> >> too.
> 
> Excuse me Malcolm, but did you mention the word 'fun' in the same sentence
> as 'election' ?
> Shurley shome mishtake :o)
> 
> Here is my preview of how the election will go :
> 
> 1. We will all get very bored very quickly.
> 2. Most people won't bother to vote.
> 3. The government will get in.
> 4. All their promises to make life better/easier/less taxed will be
> forgotten.
> 5. We won't notice any difference.
> 6. Except for more tax :o(
> 7. They are all a bunch of lying self centered good for nothing low lifes.

> 8. None of then have or use (or even know) what a QL is. (Had to get back on
> topic:o) )

that does have advantages: didn't we all enjoy the news how particularly
hard most parliaments worldwide have been struck with the ILOVEYOU virus?
The best proof they are a bunch technically clueless idiots who know
nothing better than use their computers to view porn for our money.

We wouldn't have this fun would they use sane software.

Bye
Richard



RE: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-20 Thread Norman Dunbar

-Original Message-
From: Malcolm Cadman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election



>> Thanks ... this will make it more fun following the current election
>> too.

Excuse me Malcolm, but did you mention the word 'fun' in the same sentence
as 'election' ?
Shurley shome mishtake :o)

Here is my preview of how the election will go :

1. We will all get very bored very quickly.
2. Most people won't bother to vote.
3. The government will get in.
4. All their promises to make life better/easier/less taxed will be
forgotten.
5. We won't notice any difference.
6. Except for more tax :o(
7. They are all a bunch of lying self centered good for nothing low lifes.
8. None of then have or use (or even know) what a QL is. (Had to get back on
topic :o) )

Norman.

PS. I think that all ballot papers should have a box that says 'none of the
above'.



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Re: [ql-users] Re: UK General Election

2001-05-19 Thread Malcolm Cadman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Geoff Wicks
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>I have put a new version of my General Election analysis program on my web
>page.
>
>It allows you to plot 8 new maps. These are for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th places
>of the parties; the areas of strength for each of the main parties; and the
>marginal seats.
>
>In the seats section it is now possible to look for 2nd, 3rd and 4th place
>seats. I have also implemented Malcolm Cadman's suggestion of marking the
>marginal seats.
>
>Please let me know asap of any bugs as, for obvious reasons, the program has
>not been rigorously tested. Also any suggestions for further features will
>be welcome as this will form the basis of the 2001 edition.

Thanks ... this will make it more fun following the current election
too.

-- 
Malcolm Cadman