Re: [ql-users] Simple (text only) web browser
Tarquin Mills wrote: >A demo of an early version of a simple (text only) web browser for QDOS >and Minerva systems is now available at > http://www.planet14.sonow.com/comp/hb/ > > Yours Tarquin Mills I downloaded this program and tried running it on QPC2 and on my Aurora (JM ROM). It doesn't work on either, both times getting as far as askign where it's being run from - entering the device name gets an error message 'at line 390 not found' on QPC2, and on the JM ROM the error message box appears, but nothing printed (or it's being printed in black on black). Pressing a key then stops the program on both platforms. I'll add the URL of your page to my website so that others can find and try this browser, Tarquin. Keep up the work on it! As useful as Lynx is, it isn't easy to install with all the long filenames etc causing us to run into the 36 character filename length limit all the time if you try to install it in anything other than the root directory. So I suspect an alternative simple text browser will be welcome. Regarding the convversion of html files to plain text, I'd rather see the output file being a renamed version of the html file, i.e. example.html becomes example.txt, page_htm becomes page_txt or whatever, rather than being given a fixed name. This would make it easier to convert more than one file in the same session. -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
Re: [ql-users] Simple (text only) web browser
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >A demo of an early version of a simple (text only) web browser for QDOS >and Minerva systems is now available at > http://www.planet14.sonow.com/comp/hb/ Thanks, Tarquin, I will take a little look :-) -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] Simple (text only) web browser
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >A demo of an early version of a simple (text only) web browser for QDOS >and Minerva systems is now available at > http://www.planet14.sonow.com/comp/hb/ Just had a try to download, and there is a problem with the link - at around 3.00pm Sunday 18th February 2001. I will try again later. -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] Simple (text only) web browser
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Malcolm Cadman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >writes >>A demo of an early version of a simple (text only) web browser for QDOS >>and Minerva systems is now available at >> http://www.planet14.sonow.com/comp/hb/ > >Just had a try to download, and there is a problem with the link - at >around 3.00pm Sunday 18th February 2001. > >I will try again later. Succeeded in a download later in the day :-) The 'exe' task halts at line 390, which is the path name of a device ? No doubt you will quickly solve this small difficulty. -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] Simple (text only) web browser
> > A demo of an early version of a simple (text only) web browser for QDOS > and Minerva systems is now available at > http://www.planet14.sonow.com/comp/hb/ Em... What's wrong with Lynx? Text only but full featured despite that. And widely used on many platforms... Especially Unix and Linux.
Re: [ql-users] Simple (text only) web browser
At 11:17 ìì 18/2/2001, you wrote: > > > > A demo of an early version of a simple (text only) web browser for QDOS > > and Minerva systems is now available at > > http://www.planet14.sonow.com/comp/hb/ > >Em... What's wrong with Lynx? >Text only but full featured despite that. > >And widely used on many platforms... Especially Unix and Linux. Hmm from what I read from the docs... it is supposed to work with XHTML 1.0 (Lynx supports IIRC up to HTML 4). I wouldn't know of course since it doesn't run with SMSQ/E Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Simple (text only) web browser
>>Em... What's wrong with Lynx? >>Text only but full featured despite that. >> >>And widely used on many platforms... Especially Unix and Linux. > >Hmm from what I read from the docs... it is supposed to work with XHTML >1.0 >(Lynx supports IIRC up to HTML 4). I wouldn't know of course since it >doesn't run with SMSQ/E I would have said: (1) I never got it to work with QPC2 (sounds like Phoebus explained that) (2) it is bloody hard to install on QDOSMSQ if you're not into Linux etc - the long path names etc mean it has to be unzipped into the root directory to stand much chance. (3) the number of files (OK, it includes sources, docs etc) is overpowering (4) the full installation is large by QDOSMSQ standards WHEN you get it to work, Lynx is a great little text browser, but somewhat overkill for my needs. I think the difficulty in unzipping and installation is what lead Tim Swenson to offer the 'cut down' installation on his website, although Jonathan Hudson doesn't really approve of that one. I think Tarquin's browser, when he gets it finished, will be adequate for many QLers needs. Andrew and others will nonetheless prefer the longer established (and cross platform) Lynx. -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
Re: [ql-users] Simple (text only) web browser
Malcolm Cadman wrote: >>>A demo of an early version of a simple (text only) web browser for >>>QDOS and Minerva systems is now available at >>> http://www.planet14.sonow.com/comp/hb/ >The 'exe' task halts at line 390, which is the path name of a device ? >No doubt you will quickly solve this small difficulty. > > -- > Malcolm Cadman I just upload a new version which changes line 390, however the fault can also by cause by having the wrong path to the distribution entered. The new version features faster single line scrolling, a saving of 141K in Dataspace, the ability to handle larger XHTML files and some other minor improvements. As to the Lynx vs HB, judging by a version running on Linux it does not render tables (except for the text) unlike HB. HB handles far more entities (i.e. £) than Netscape 4, including the Euro if you have one of the altered ROMs in your emulator (this not tested yet). I come from part of Surrey called Elmbridge, I have noticed an ex-QL company called PCML from Esher, does anybody know anything about them. Thank you for downloading HB. Yours Tarquin Mills
Re: [ql-users] Simple (text only) web browser
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Malcolm Cadman wrote: A demo of an early version of a simple (text only) web browser for QDOS and Minerva systems is now available at http://www.planet14.sonow.com/comp/hb/ >>The 'exe' task halts at line 390, which is the path name of a device ? >>No doubt you will quickly solve this small difficulty. > I just upload a new version which changes line 390, however the fault >can also by cause by having the wrong path to the distribution >entered. The new version features faster single line scrolling, a >saving of 141K in Dataspace, the ability to handle larger XHTML files >and some other minor improvements. Thanks, I knew that you would be on the 'case' quickly :-) I will download the new version soon. > As to the Lynx vs HB, judging by a version running on Linux it does >not render tables (except for the text) unlike HB. HB handles far more >entities (i.e. £) than Netscape 4, including the Euro if you have >one of the altered ROMs in your emulator (this not tested yet). Don't worry about Lynx too much. Your browser will inevitably be different and have its own feature set. If it runs on all QL's - at present QDOS and not SMSQ - and is easy to install and use, then you are on to a winner in having a body of users. > I come from part of Surrey called Elmbridge, I have noticed an ex-QL >company called PCML from Esher, does anybody know anything about them. I think they made some hardware ? Not sure what though ... > Thank you for downloading HB. That's OK ... a big thanks to you for writing it and making it available. I hope everyone on this list will try it, and help drive the usability of the QL into the 'web era' that bit more forward ... I was experimenting with Jon Dent's soql TCP software last night, under QPC2 v2. Everything is operating as expected, yet I haven't figured out how to address the PC's internal modem yet. -- Malcolm Cadman
