Re: [ql-users] CFD Devices

2003-08-14 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Tue, 12 Aug 2003 at 22:47:25, Derek Stewart wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])


There is no benfit of using 80 wire IDE cables, as the IDE controller can
not take advantage of the higher speeds like on PCs...
Indeed.  ... and the blanked single socket will (or should) stop you
using it!

I have build many PCs, and it does not matter where to the CDROM is or
device on the IDE cable. Unless it using 80 wire conductors or uses cable
select.
Roy is dead right.
With any transmission line (SCSI/IDE or whatever) there must always be
something (device or terminator) at the end.

It may well work, but there will be signal degradation.

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[ql-users] CFD Devices

2003-08-14 Thread Derek Stewart

HI,

There is no benfit of using 80 wire IDE cables, as the IDE controller can
not take advantage of the higher speeds like on PCs...

I have build many PCs, and it does not matter where to the CDROM is or
device on the IDE cable. Unless it using 80 wire conductors or uses cable
select.

The CFD devices work great on the Q60, but I have had intermittent results
on the hot swap version. Which is strange as, one would think that the
Hot-Swap would be that same as the Non-Hot-Swap.

Anyway the CFD devices look a ittle too expensive at present.

Derek




Re: [ql-users] CFD Devices

2003-08-14 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Derek Stewart 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
HI,

There is no benfit of using 80 wire IDE cables, as the IDE controller can
not take advantage of the higher speeds like on PCs...
I was commenting in general. The Q.xx controller is ATA 66 isn't it ? I 
don't recall seeing any other ones on IDE
I have build many PCs, and it does not matter where to the CDROM is or
device on the IDE cable. Unless it using 80 wire conductors or uses cable
select.
I have had problems with some - Plextor CD-RWs usually. I was very 
puzzled the first time it happened when I built a machine for someone 
who wanted to use the DVD writer out of his old machine. I set the 
Plextor up as a slave and stuck it on the middle connector so I could 
just put the DVD-ROM drive in - damn thing would not even see the drive 
to let me install any software until I moved it.
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