Re: [ql-users] Membrane update (and progress)

2002-10-19 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Sat, 19 Oct 2002 at 03:11:32,  wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

>><'Use clear plastic' snipped>
>I agree with that statement Tony - however, how do we find out about
>the type of plastics used (or the keyboard membrane manufacturer at the
>time)??
Polyflex (was NFI) in the Isle of Wight
http://www.polyflex.com/pr_sept98.htm

They still do similar things, and have the QL membrane tooling for the
current plastic (I assume), but would not change the spec (or so Bill R
said)

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Re: [ql-users] Membrane update (and progress)

2002-10-18 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 18/10/02 17:11:51 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


... not the original clear plastic membrane, in the first 1000 or so
units.
That is very very durable, and I use for testing QLs.
Of course it could fail, but only, I think, if attacked.

That sort of plastic should be used in any replacement

I agree with that statement Tony - however, how do we find out about the type of plastics used (or the keyboard membrane manufacturer at the time)??
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Re: [ql-users] Membrane update (and progress)

2002-10-18 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Thu, 17 Oct 2002 at 18:15:52, =?windows-1253?Q?=D6=EF=DF=E2=EF=F2=20
=D1.=20=CD=F4=FC=EA=EF=F2?= wrote:
(ref: quantumcentral>)


>ANY membrane will fail give it
>sufficient time and enough tinkering with the QLs inside but not the Qeyboard
... not the original clear plastic membrane, in the first 1000 or so
units.
That is very very durable, and I use for testing QLs.
Of course it could fail, but only, I think, if attacked.

That sort of plastic should be used in any replacement.
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Re: [ql-users] Membrane update (and progress)

2002-10-17 Thread Φοίβος Ρ. Ντόκος

Ôçí 17/10/2002 5:00:56 ìì, ï/ç "Callum Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ýãñáøå:


>I believe he has a sample already on it's way to him so he can make a 
>judgement on the likely time involved to produce them, etc.

Yes he does have a sample on the way (Sent it today).

>
>On a similar note, does the replacement 'non-intrusive' keyboard discussed 
>here use the existing membrane, a custom one, or something different 
>entirely? If it's a custom one, could the quantity of membranes we can 
>register interest for be increased to accomodate the needs of this product? 
>I believe both are valuable to QL users, could happily co-exist, and we 
>could secure the production of both products at reasonable cost if the parts 
>are similar.

The one MAJOR advantage of the Qeyboard is its ability of working with Aurora 
directly. As for its design, refer to Dave's 
email. Although the Qeyboard is not as responsive (I don't believe I am saying this 
:-) as the membrane (where are you 
Uncle?) it's the one thing that can replace the membrane without really fear of 
failure. ANY membrane will fail give it 
sufficient time and enough tinkering with the QLs inside but not the Qeyboard


Phoebus






Re: [ql-users] Membrane update (and progress)

2002-10-17 Thread Dave P



On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Callum Davidson wrote:

> I've been exchanging emails with Thomas at Sintech on the subject of his
> planned production of keyboard membranes recently, with very encouraging
> results.

Great!

> On a similar note, does the replacement 'non-intrusive' keyboard discussed
> here use the existing membrane, a custom one, or something different
> entirely? If it's a custom one, could the quantity of membranes we can
> register interest for be increased to accomodate the needs of this product?
> I believe both are valuable to QL users, could happily co-exist, and we
> could secure the production of both products at reasonable cost if the parts
> are similar.

The replacement works on microswitches and isn't at all similar to a
membrane. Also, the availability of membranes would make my project
redundant, and that would be a good thing. I am sure the Quanta guys would
be willing to co-fund a larger run and hold membranes to ensure their
supply well into the future. If these ones are as non-destructible as you
say, they should solve the long-term problems too.

Dave





[ql-users] Membrane update (and progress)

2002-10-17 Thread Callum Davidson

Hello all,

I've been exchanging emails with Thomas at Sintech on the subject of his 
planned production of keyboard membranes recently, with very encouraging 
results.

I believe he has a sample already on it's way to him so he can make a 
judgement on the likely time involved to produce them, etc.

He also wants a general idea of how many he should budget for producing so 
he can work out if it will be economical. With this in mind, and as we seem 
to be onto a real possibility here, if you are at all interested in seeing a 
source of membranes established in the reasonable future, *please* register 
your interest and requirements (current or potential) either:

a) With Thomas directly,
b) Via the guestbook Rich has provided at RWAP Software, or
c) to me directly and I'll collect numbers together and forward them to 
Thomas ASAP and as regularly thereafter as necessary.

I have the impression that he may produce small (but expensive) quantities 
if demand is sufficient, but they would not be economical unless a run of 
several hundred could be produced at once.

On a similar note, does the replacement 'non-intrusive' keyboard discussed 
here use the existing membrane, a custom one, or something different 
entirely? If it's a custom one, could the quantity of membranes we can 
register interest for be increased to accomodate the needs of this product? 
I believe both are valuable to QL users, could happily co-exist, and we 
could secure the production of both products at reasonable cost if the parts 
are similar.

Callum

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