Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-06 Thread John Sadler



- Original Message -
From: "Richard Zidlicky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] [OT] Making business with Roy Wood


>
> On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 03:07:48PM +0100, Norman Dunbar wrote:
>
> > PS. Got UQLX working on Mandrake 8.2 - yippee !
> > The colour scheme seems to be a bit wonky, might be Mandrake or KDE,
maybe
> > not - all I get is yellow, magenta, cyan, red and black - regardless of
mode
> > 4 or 8. :o(
>
> interesting.. send me the output of 'qm -v 6' and 'xdpyinfo'.
> As a quick fix you can try using some other screen depth for
> X (like startx -- -bpp 8).
>
> Richard

I have got UQLX to make, install and run with Mandrake 8.2 as well.
(Mandrake 8.1 would not run.)
The colur displays are correct in Mode 4. However the numerical output is
not intelligible. The integers and floating
points on channel #1 & #2. It looks as though when it displays floating
point significant and lower bytes have been interchanged.
I have no idea whether the internal processing of the maths routines is
correct but I will try some coercion to check it.
I have compiled it on an Athlon 500 MHz chip. I do not know whether this is
the reason for the problem.
I can send you an output of the compilation messages if that is any help.

John





Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-06 Thread Richard Zidlicky


On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 11:07:59AM +0100, John Sadler wrote:
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Richard Zidlicky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [ql-users] [OT] Making business with Roy Wood
> 
> 
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 03:07:48PM +0100, Norman Dunbar wrote:
> >
> > > PS. Got UQLX working on Mandrake 8.2 - yippee !
> > > The colour scheme seems to be a bit wonky, might be Mandrake or KDE,
> maybe
> > > not - all I get is yellow, magenta, cyan, red and black - regardless of
> mode
> > > 4 or 8. :o(
> >
> > interesting.. send me the output of 'qm -v 6' and 'xdpyinfo'.
> > As a quick fix you can try using some other screen depth for
> > X (like startx -- -bpp 8).
> >
> > Richard
> 
> I have got UQLX to make, install and run with Mandrake 8.2 as well.
> (Mandrake 8.1 would not run.)
> The colur displays are correct in Mode 4. However the numerical output is
> not intelligible.

is this gcc-2.96? Use kgcc or 2.95 or 3.x

Richard



Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-06 Thread Jeremy Taffel



- Original Message -
From: "Richard Zidlicky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2


>
> On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 11:07:59AM +0100, John Sadler wrote:
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Richard Zidlicky"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ql-users] [OT] Making business with Roy Wood
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 03:07:48PM +0100, Norman Dunbar wrote:
> > >
> > > > PS. Got UQLX working on Mandrake 8.2 - yippee !
> > > > The colour scheme seems to be a bit wonky, might be Mandrake or KDE,
> > maybe
> > > > not - all I get is yellow, magenta, cyan, red and black - regardless
of
> > mode
> > > > 4 or 8. :o(
> > >
> > > interesting.. send me the output of 'qm -v 6' and 'xdpyinfo'.
> > > As a quick fix you can try using some other screen depth for
> > > X (like startx -- -bpp 8).
> > >
> > > Richard
> >
> > I have got UQLX to make, install and run with Mandrake 8.2 as well.
> > (Mandrake 8.1 would not run.)
> > The colur displays are correct in Mode 4. However the numerical output
is
> > not intelligible.
>
> is this gcc-2.96? Use kgcc or 2.95 or 3.x
>
> Richard
>

Well uqlx works fine for me under Mandrake 8.1; running KDE 2, all
combinations of display mode (KDE and UQLX), included the extended screen
sizes under Minerva.

Jeremy




Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-07 Thread John Sadler


Richard
Further to my original message, numbers would appear to have their bytes
interchanged as you cannot edit a line and re-enter it and if you try to add
two numbers which have been put in as strings, coerced to nubers added
coerced back to a string it prints out an unintelligable string.
Hope this is of help
John




Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-07 Thread Richard Zidlicky


Hi,

what does gcc -v say? If it is gcc-2.96 use another version. Anything
but 2.96 will work.

Richard



Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-15 Thread John Sadler



Subject: Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2 & AMD 500 Processor


>
> On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 11:07:59AM +0100, John Sadler wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have got UQLX to make, install and run with Mandrake 8.2 as well.
> > (Mandrake 8.1 would not run.)
> > The colur displays are correct in Mode 4. However the numerical output
is
> > not intelligible.
>
> is this gcc-2.96? Use kgcc or 2.95 or 3.x
>
> Richard

Recompiled using gcc3.0.4 with exactly the same result.
The QDOS numbers & floating point are not displayed properly.
Even the date is unintelligable and the line numbers and channel numbers in
the listing of the boot program are unintelligable.
Defintely got nothing to do with compiler and probaly big endian for numbers

John




Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-15 Thread P Witte


John Sadler writes:

> > > I have got UQLX to make, install and run with Mandrake 8.2 as well.
> > > (Mandrake 8.1 would not run.)
> > > The colur displays are correct in Mode 4. However the numerical output
> is
> > > not intelligible.
> >
> > is this gcc-2.96? Use kgcc or 2.95 or 3.x
> >
> > Richard
>
> Recompiled using gcc3.0.4 with exactly the same result.
> The QDOS numbers & floating point are not displayed properly.
> Even the date is unintelligable and the line numbers and channel numbers
in
> the listing of the boot program are unintelligable.
> Defintely got nothing to do with compiler and probaly big endian for
numbers

The symptoms you describe appear to be the same as I experienced some time
ago. In the end it turned out to be the compiler; something about the Linux
kernel headers some use. I switched to a different gcc and since then Ive
compiled uQLx a number of times without a hitch.

Per




Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-16 Thread John Sadler


Well that is gcc 2.96 & gcc 3.0.4 I have tried.
What are you using and what sort of processor?
Surely if gcc can cope with floating point the problem is low level access
and differences.
Though as there are both big endian and little endian if a switch does not
work what els?

- Original Message -
From: "P Witte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2


>
> John Sadler writes:
>
> > > > I have got UQLX to make, install and run with Mandrake 8.2 as well.
> > > > (Mandrake 8.1 would not run.)
> > > > The colur displays are correct in Mode 4. However the numerical
output
> > is
> > > > not intelligible.
> > >
> > > is this gcc-2.96? Use kgcc or 2.95 or 3.x
> > >
> > > Richard
> >
> > Recompiled using gcc3.0.4 with exactly the same result.
> > The QDOS numbers & floating point are not displayed properly.
> > Even the date is unintelligable and the line numbers and channel numbers
> in
> > the listing of the boot program are unintelligable.
> > Defintely got nothing to do with compiler and probaly big endian for
> numbers
>
> The symptoms you describe appear to be the same as I experienced some time
> ago. In the end it turned out to be the compiler; something about the
Linux
> kernel headers some use. I switched to a different gcc and since then Ive
> compiled uQLx a number of times without a hitch.
>
> Per
>




Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-16 Thread Phoebus Dokos

At 03:35 ìì 16/7/2002, you wrote:


>Well that is gcc 2.96 & gcc 3.0.4 I have tried.
>What are you using and what sort of processor?
>Surely if gcc can cope with floating point the problem is low level access
>and differences.
>Though as there are both big endian and little endian if a switch does not
>work what els?

I had the same problem with uQLx and several versions of Linux while it 
compiled normally on FreeBSD and Solaris.
Since I think you have an AMD K-7 processor as I do, maybe the problem is 
really there and not anywhere else.
It would seem that something prevents uQLx to compile if an AMD processor 
is used. Ceteris paribus and only the processor changed to an Intel, Linux 
compiles it without a hitch...

Final analysis

On a PC, run FreeBSD... THE ONLY true Unix ;-) (Okay NetBSD and OpenBSD are 
included ;-)

Phoebus



Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-16 Thread Dave P




On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote:

> Final analysis
>
> On a PC, run FreeBSD... THE ONLY true Unix ;-) (Okay NetBSD and OpenBSD are
> included ;-)

Phoebus, you *n*x snob! ;P

Dave





Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-16 Thread Phoebus Dokos

At 05:37 ìì 16/7/2002, you wrote:



>On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote:
>
>>Final analysis
>>
>>On a PC, run FreeBSD... THE ONLY true Unix ;-) (Okay NetBSD and OpenBSD are
>>included ;-)
>
>Phoebus, you *n*x snob! ;P
>
>Dave
>

Hehe yep, that I am actually to be honest, I have found FreeBSD to be 
far more easy to install than any Linux distro. so far and especially for 
my use that requires full localization (Greek fonts/keyboard), installation 
is a breeze compared to many distributions of Linux out there...
Best part is that it came with a 2K + page manual too ;-) 
(iiic!)
-Oh and it runs Linux executables as well.-

And YES runs uQLx on my AMD ;-)

Phoebus



Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-16 Thread Richard Zidlicky


> 
> 
> Well that is gcc 2.96 & gcc 3.0.4 I have tried.
> What are you using and what sort of processor?
> Surely if gcc can cope with floating point the problem is low level access
> and differences.
> Though as there are both big endian and little endian if a switch does not
> work what els?

floating point is done by QDOS, fully emulated m68k code. Can you email me
the .config from uqlx dir? What exactly does 'gcc -v' say?

Richard



Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-16 Thread Robert Newson


Phoebus Dokos wrote:

> At 05:37 ìì 16/7/2002, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote:
>>
>>> Final analysis
>>>
>>> On a PC, run FreeBSD... THE ONLY true Unix ;-) (Okay NetBSD and 
>>> OpenBSD are
>>> included ;-)
>>
>>
>> Phoebus, you *n*x snob! ;P
>>
>> Dave
>>
> 
> Hehe yep, that I am actually to be honest, I have found FreeBSD to 
> be far more easy to install than any Linux distro.


Failed to install FreeBSD on this machine AMD) with it's 40G HD..the 
partitioner couldn't handle it, whereas Linux's could (well, RH6.0 failed 
making a total mess of the partition table that even windoze couldn't fix, 
it took RH6.2 to manage it)...freeBSD is on my 486 which has 1x525M + 1x1.5G 
HDs.

>so far and especially 
> for my use that requires full localization (Greek fonts/keyboard), 
> installation is a breeze compared to many distributions of Linux out 
> there...
> Best part is that it came with a 2K + page manual too ;-) 
> (iiic!)
> -Oh and it runs Linux executables as well.-
> 
> And YES runs uQLx on my AMD ;-)
> 
> Phoebu
> s





Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-18 Thread John Sadler



- Original Message -
From: "Richard Zidlicky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] UQLX & Mandrake 8.2


>
> >
> >
> > Well that is gcc 2.96 & gcc 3.0.4 I have tried.
> > What are you using and what sort of processor?
> > Surely if gcc can cope with floating point the problem is low level
access
> > and differences.
> > Though as there are both big endian and little endian if a switch does
not
> > work what els?
>
> floating point is done by QDOS, fully emulated m68k code. Can you email me
> the .config from uqlx dir? What exactly does 'gcc -v' say?
>
> Richard

File .config is

QM_CONFIG_DONE=yes
CC = gcc -V 3.0.4
DEF_CPU=-march=pentium
GCC_XFLAGS+= -DUSE_VM -DZEROMAP

I have to versions of gcc installed at the minute. Here is the output of
various gcc -v commands

[john@time john]$ gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/2.96/specs
gcc version 2.96 2731 (Mandrake Linux 8.2 2.96-0.76mdk)
[john@time john]$
[john@time john]$ gcc -V 3.0.4 -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.0.4/specs
gcc driver version 2.96 2731 (Mandrake Linux 8.2 2.96-0.76mdk) executing
gcc version 3.0.4
[john@time john]$
[john@time john]$ gcc -V 2.96 -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/2.96/specs
gcc version 2.96 2731 (Mandrake Linux 8.2 2.96-0.76mdk)
[john@time john]$

Hope this is of some help.
As I said I can always output the make to a file and send you that if it is
any help.

John