Re: [ql-users] qdt
> Blush - and no, no one should ask what Darren is talking about (we all > know better anyway I would hope). We really don't want to know what you were up to "playing with your QDT" when you sneaked off to your room at Montreal! > And Darren, don't worry, there will be a little something extra hidden > in there for you one of these days :) He doesn't know it yet, but there's 2 little things specially for him in Launchpad too. Not forgetting the classic accidental one in an early test version where the name DARREN or BRANAGH (forgot which, was fixed weeks ago) used as a login or password screwed up the name encoding algorithm for passwords. Hint, Darren, you can find one of them by loading launchpad into an editor and searching for your name (assuming I haven't taken it out and forgotten about it!) After all this time we've both spent working on related but very different projects, I'll look forward to being able to compare products one day when they're both finished! -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] QDT : Program Recognition assistance request
Thanks, Per. Will add the native QL programs. I think that I have XChange in my database but will double check. Qpac 1 and 2 are set up as hot keys on my system but I will look at them to see about stand alone. By the way, just in case anyone misunderstood the purpose of this database, it is used during QDT to install to preset up icons for programs found on the user's system. Of course you will be able to add, delete, and move program/icons around as needed at any time. I will also have a hot key display/editor which eventually will merge into the QDT install. Jim On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 01:36 PM, P Witte wrote: Xchange is worth expending a bit of extra effort on, imho. I never liked the idea of lumping these four programs together, prefering the single-program versions. However, the extra capabilities of the Xchange versions of the programs, plus the fact that the whole package has been updated to run on modern QL systems leaves little choice. To get round the fiddle of negotiating around the different programs I normally run each in its own instance of Xchange. I use a variety of startup scripts, attached to hotkeys, depending on what I want to do: One will load Xchange with Quill, loading the default document template, another will load Xchange with Archive, etc. Using hotkeys I can switch between different intances of Quill or Archive, etc. It would be nice if QDT would support this. Quill and Archive, and to a lesser extent, Abacus, are still among my most used programs. (Are there any more of us dinosaurs out there?) I dont see Qpac 1 and 2 anywhere in your list - or does QDT supercede them all? BTW I notice Easel no longer seems to display properly under GD2. Advice, anyone? Per
Re: [ql-users] QDT : Program Recognition assistance request
Thanks, Dilwyn. I will add these to the database this weekend. jim
Re: [ql-users] QDT : Program Recognition assistance request
James Hunkins writes: > If you have the programs, could you send me the additional details (I > need this for any submissions to be added to the data base). > > 1) a list of the actual file names of the executable code > 2) title of the program > 3) a very short description of what the program does (editor, window > designer, game) > 4) a list of any executable files that are support files and are not > meant to be run directly (IE: no icons should be made for them) > 5) optional : any minimum command line requirements > > Again, thanks. I appreciate your help and suggestions. > Jim Quill; Quill; Word processor; ; ldefault_doc Archive; Archive; Database; ; run "start_prg" Easel; Easel; Business graphics program; ; XChange; Psion XChange; Office suite; ; ; Xchange is worth expending a bit of extra effort on, imho. I never liked the idea of lumping these four programs together, prefering the single-program versions. However, the extra capabilities of the Xchange versions of the programs, plus the fact that the whole package has been updated to run on modern QL systems leaves little choice. To get round the fiddle of negotiating around the different programs I normally run each in its own instance of Xchange. I use a variety of startup scripts, attached to hotkeys, depending on what I want to do: One will load Xchange with Quill, loading the default document template, another will load Xchange with Archive, etc. Using hotkeys I can switch between different intances of Quill or Archive, etc. It would be nice if QDT would support this. Quill and Archive, and to a lesser extent, Abacus, are still among my most used programs. (Are there any more of us dinosaurs out there?) I dont see Qpac 1 and 2 anywhere in your list - or does QDT supercede them all? BTW I notice Easel no longer seems to display properly under GD2. Advice, anyone? Per
Re: [ql-users] QDT : Program Recognition assistance request
James Hunkins wrote: > Thanks, Dilwyn. > > As per my email to Malcolm, could you privide some additional details > to go with your suggestions? > > Your description of the file names is great. >- are there any executables that are support and should not get their > own icons (IE: don't normal get directly launched/run)? No. >- do any of them have a minimum required command line to run > (optional) No. All will run from a simple EXEC or EXEC_W command. Some programs (e.g. the Viewer and MiniView programs) will accept a filename as a parameter and start by loading that file, e.g. to be called from FIleInfo 2 or similar,e.g. EXEC FLP1_VIEWER_OBJ;'FLP1_TEXTFILE_TXT' but none has a compulsory command line parameter. Program descriptions, which I didn't include: > Super Disk Labeller sdl_obj and sdl_norun_obj FLoppy disk labelling program > Super Disk Indexsdi_obj and sdi_norun_obj Floppy disk file cataloguing program > FileFinder filefinder_obj Search for files containing a given text string > Text File Viewerviewer_obj and viewer_rtm Text file viewer > MiniViewminiview_obj and miniview_rtm More compact text file viewer > Convert-PCX pcx_obj and pcx_norun_obj Convert PCX file format graphics to QL screen or PIC files. > Easybaseeasybase_obj and easybase_rtm Easy to use database program. > Doc2Htmldoc2html_obj and doc2html_rtm Quill DOC file to HTML file conversion. > Screen Snatcher snatch3_obj and snatch3_norun_obj Grab copies of the screen picture, also works with GD2 > Snake game snake_obj and snake_rtm Eat all the numbers ot make the snake grow, but don't touch its tail! > Today today_obj and today_rtm What happened on this day in history? > DEV Manager devman_obj and devman_norun_obj Build a database of settings for DEV, SUB, nnn_USE and so on to assist with running programs from sub-directories. > DEV Manager editor deveditr_obj and deveditr_norun_obj The database editor for DEV Manager > Q-Trans qtrans_obj and qtrans_rtm Pointer driven dual window file copier. > Compound Interest compint_obj and compint_rtm Pointer driven compound interest calculator. > Charpick (similar to a character map program) charpick_obj and > charpick_rtm Character map and selection via stuffer buffer. > Conversions (the metric conversions program)converts_obj and > converts_rtm Metric/Imperial units conversion program. > Graphics Viewer gv115_obj and gv115_no_rt_obj Pointer driven graphics file viewer for several QL file formats. > PicView picview_obj and picview_rtm QL 4 colour, 8 colour and GD2 PIC and SCR graphics file viewer > MakeDirsmakedirs_obj and makedirs_rtm Pointer driven utility to assist with creating directories. > Proc Managerprocman_ptr_obj and procman_norun_obj Extract named procedures and functions from S*BASIC programs. > SystemSet systemset_obj and systemset_rtm Pointer driven system settings utility > Temperature conversions temperature_obj and temperature_rtm Temperature units conversion program. > Unzip Librarian ulibptr_obj and ulibptr_rtm Simple PE program to aid with use of ZIP and UNZIP. > Sidewriter sidewriter_obj and sidewriter_norun_obj Print spreadsheets or text files sideways on dot matrix printers. > Deskjet-A5 deskjeta5_obj and deskjeta5_norun_obj Print two pages sideways on each sheet of paper with Deskjet printers. > Mini Graphics Printer minigrap_obj and minigrap_rtm Mini Graphics Printer - print thumbnails of QL graphics files. > Launchpad lp_obj and lp_rtm Iconised program launcher GUI. -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] QDT : Program Recognition assistance request
In article <000901c29b28$489f6d00$ca30fd3e@blackpc>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >Jim Hunkins and Malcolm Cadman wrote: >> >I am putting together the database that QDT will use during >> >installation to assist in setting up desktops. If you all could >> >suggest additional programs that I can add to the data base, I >would >> >really appreciate it. >> > >> >Please respond without copying the full list, just your suggested >> >additions (or changes). The protocol that I use is: >> >> A very inclusive list already ... well done ! >> >> I would add : >> >> The Editor 2000 >> Some of Mark Knights programs ... >> QTrans by Dilwyn Jones, and other programs by Dilwyn. >If you must, just my pointer driven programs I think. Some of the >others are best quietly forgotten apart from perhaps the ones in the >following list. Thanks for the support though, Malcolm! That's OK ... you've done the work. Your pointer driven programs would benefit from a review of their style with menus, as Qtrans is an improvement on the previous ones, and there is now some inconsistency in choices, etc. Then again ... you may never have the time :-) -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] QDT : Program Recognition assistance request
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Hunkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Thanks Malcolm, > >If you have the programs, could you send me the additional details (I >need this for any submissions to be added to the data base). > >1) a list of the actual file names of the executable code >2) title of the program >3) a very short description of what the program does (editor, window >designer, game) >4) a list of any executable files that are support files and are not >meant to be run directly (IE: no icons should be made for them) >5) optional : any minimum command line requirements OK ... I will try and look them up this coming weekend. -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] QDT : Program Recognition assistance request
Thanks Malcolm, If you have the programs, could you send me the additional details (I need this for any submissions to be added to the data base). 1) a list of the actual file names of the executable code 2) title of the program 3) a very short description of what the program does (editor, window designer, game) 4) a list of any executable files that are support files and are not meant to be run directly (IE: no icons should be made for them) 5) optional : any minimum command line requirements Again, thanks. I appreciate your help and suggestions. Jim On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 01:51 PM, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Hunkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Guys, I am putting together the database that QDT will use during installation to assist in setting up desktops. If you all could suggest additional programs that I can add to the data base, I would really appreciate it. Please respond without copying the full list, just your suggested additions (or changes). The protocol that I use is: A very inclusive list already ... well done ! I would add : The Editor 2000 Some of Mark Knights programs ... QTrans by Dilwyn Jones, and other programs by Dilwyn. -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] QDT : Program Recognition assistance request
Thanks, Dilwyn. As per my email to Malcolm, could you privide some additional details to go with your suggestions? Your description of the file names is great. - are there any executables that are support and should not get their own icons (IE: don't normal get directly launched/run)? - do any of them have a minimum required command line to run (optional) Again, thanks! Jim On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 04:00 PM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: If you must, just my pointer driven programs I think. Some of the others are best quietly forgotten apart from perhaps the ones in the following list. Thanks for the support though, Malcolm! Some of the QLiberator compiled ones have filenames ending with _RTM (linked compler runtimes version) and _OBJ (no compiler runtimes attached). Some of the older ones used the convention _obj=version with runtimes, _NORUN_OBJ = version without compiler runtimes, just to confuse. Super Disk Labeller sdl_obj and sdl_norun_obj Super Disk Indexsdi_obj and sdi_norun_obj FileFinder filefinder_obj Text File Viewerviewer_obj and viewer_rtm MiniViewminiview_obj and miniview_rtm Convert-PCX pcx_obj and pcx_norun_obj Easybaseeasybase_obj and easybase_rtm Doc2Htmldoc2html_obj and doc2html_rtm Screen Snatcher snatch3_obj and snatch3_norun_obj Snake game snake_obj and snake_rtm Today today_obj and today_rtm Suggest the following pointer driven programs: DEV Manager devman_obj and devman_norun_obj DEV Manager editor deveditr_obj and deveditr_norun_obj Q-Trans qtrans_obj and qtrans_rtm Compound Interest compint_obj and compint_rtm Charpick (similar to a character map program) charpick_obj and charpick_rtm Conversions (the metric conversions program)converts_obj and converts_rtm Graphics Viewer gv115_obj and gv115_no_rt_obj PicView picview_obj and picview_rtm MakeDirsmakedirs_obj and makedirs_rtm Proc Managerprocman_ptr_obj and procman_norun_obj SystemSet systemset_obj and systemset_rtm Temperature conversions temperature_obj and temperature_rtm Unzip Librarian ulibptr_obj and ulibptr_rtm Sidewriter sidewriter_obj and sidewriter_norun_obj Deskjet-A5 deskjeta5_obj and deskjeta5_norun_obj Mini Graphics Printer minigrap_obj and minigrap_rtm Launchpad lp_obj and lp_rtm (would anyone be daft enough to try to use Launchpad from within QDT though???) -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] QDT : Program Recognition assistance request
Jim Hunkins and Malcolm Cadman wrote: > >I am putting together the database that QDT will use during > >installation to assist in setting up desktops. If you all could > >suggest additional programs that I can add to the data base, I would > >really appreciate it. > > > >Please respond without copying the full list, just your suggested > >additions (or changes). The protocol that I use is: > > A very inclusive list already ... well done ! > > I would add : > > The Editor 2000 > Some of Mark Knights programs ... > QTrans by Dilwyn Jones, and other programs by Dilwyn. If you must, just my pointer driven programs I think. Some of the others are best quietly forgotten apart from perhaps the ones in the following list. Thanks for the support though, Malcolm! Some of the QLiberator compiled ones have filenames ending with _RTM (linked compler runtimes version) and _OBJ (no compiler runtimes attached). Some of the older ones used the convention _obj=version with runtimes, _NORUN_OBJ = version without compiler runtimes, just to confuse. Super Disk Labeller sdl_obj and sdl_norun_obj Super Disk Indexsdi_obj and sdi_norun_obj FileFinder filefinder_obj Text File Viewerviewer_obj and viewer_rtm MiniViewminiview_obj and miniview_rtm Convert-PCX pcx_obj and pcx_norun_obj Easybaseeasybase_obj and easybase_rtm Doc2Htmldoc2html_obj and doc2html_rtm Screen Snatcher snatch3_obj and snatch3_norun_obj Snake game snake_obj and snake_rtm Today today_obj and today_rtm Suggest the following pointer driven programs: DEV Manager devman_obj and devman_norun_obj DEV Manager editor deveditr_obj and deveditr_norun_obj Q-Trans qtrans_obj and qtrans_rtm Compound Interest compint_obj and compint_rtm Charpick (similar to a character map program) charpick_obj and charpick_rtm Conversions (the metric conversions program)converts_obj and converts_rtm Graphics Viewer gv115_obj and gv115_no_rt_obj PicView picview_obj and picview_rtm MakeDirsmakedirs_obj and makedirs_rtm Proc Managerprocman_ptr_obj and procman_norun_obj SystemSet systemset_obj and systemset_rtm Temperature conversions temperature_obj and temperature_rtm Unzip Librarian ulibptr_obj and ulibptr_rtm Sidewriter sidewriter_obj and sidewriter_norun_obj Deskjet-A5 deskjeta5_obj and deskjeta5_norun_obj Mini Graphics Printer minigrap_obj and minigrap_rtm Launchpad lp_obj and lp_rtm (would anyone be daft enough to try to use Launchpad from within QDT though???) -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] QDT : Program Recognition assistance request
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Hunkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Guys, > >I am putting together the database that QDT will use during >installation to assist in setting up desktops. If you all could >suggest additional programs that I can add to the data base, I would >really appreciate it. > >Please respond without copying the full list, just your suggested >additions (or changes). The protocol that I use is: A very inclusive list already ... well done ! I would add : The Editor 2000 Some of Mark Knights programs ... QTrans by Dilwyn Jones, and other programs by Dilwyn. -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] QDT : Program Recognition assistance request
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Hunkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Guys, > >I am putting together the database that QDT will use during >installation to assist in setting up desktops. If you all could >suggest additional programs that I can add to the data base, I would >really appreciate it. > >Please respond without copying the full list, just your suggested >additions (or changes). The protocol that I use is: A very inclusive list already ... well done ! I would add : The Editor 2000 Some of Mark Knights programs ... QTrans by Dilwyn Jones, and other programs by Dilwyn. -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] QDT web sight update
James Hunkins wrote: > I am working on the installer now and have a list of things still to > do. If all goes well, I will release QDT into a very limited Beta > around the end of the year. > > Progress is slow due to my many conflicting responsibilities, etc. but I > continue to plod along. I know the feeling. Launchpad is probably on a similar timescale, except I ain't got round to making a web page about it! -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] QDT web sight update
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Hunkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >If anyone wants to take a look, it is at: > > http://www.jdh-stech.com > >I am working on the installer now and have a list of things still to >do. If all goes well, I will release QDT into a very limited Beta >around the end of the year. > >Progress is slow due to my many conflicting responsibilities, etc. but >I continue to plod along. Good luck with the 'plodding' ... I will take a look at your site this evening. -- Malcolm Cadman
RE: [ql-users] QDT web sight update
I absolutely agree. And QDT seems a high quality product -Message d'origine- De : François Van Emelen [mailto:francois.vanemelen@;chello.be] Envoyé : jeudi 7 novembre 2002 10:41 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [ql-users] QDT web sight update James Hunkins wrote: (...) > > At last some positive news on list list François Van Emelen
Re: [ql-users] QDT web sight update
James Hunkins wrote: Guys, I finally got my web sight for QDT converted to my new web publishing tool. It now has two new images and progress table updates. hi color notebook page [updated] QDT installer [new] If anyone wants to take a look, it is at: http://www.jdh-stech.com I am working on the installer now and have a list of things still to do. If all goes well, I will release QDT into a very limited Beta around the end of the year. Progress is slow due to my many conflicting responsibilities, etc. but I continue to plod along. Jim At last some positive news on list list François Van Emelen
