RE: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Geoff Wicks wrote : I don't think a reduction to £10 would bring in any new members, but £4 per member invested in QL development might encourage one or two more people to join. So reinvigorating Quanta - Some other ideas : Internet access on QL systems : It is possible using a UNIX shell account software that already exists according to an article on the DJ emulators CD : - The QUANTA committee could identify a provider bundle access to this sort of account plus software with membership. The magazine : shortage of articles but healthy finance : why not commission some show piece articles to make the magazine worth reading again - eg an idiots guide to using Ghostscript, line design etc etc. BTW what happened about the upgraded Perfection that is limited to a few individuals because of worries about ownership of this no longer for sale WP by a defunct company - Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks Sent: 15 November 2004 19:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 - Original Message - From: Tarquin Mills Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 Let me remind everyone once again that the Quanta subscription is currently £4 per year higher than is necessary to run the organisation. If Quanta are not prepared to spend this £4 on QL2005, what are they going to spend it on? There are other things the £4 could be spent on, like making the magazine colour, projects like printer software, a better SGC or a lottery bid for a portable case, USB, ethernet etc. etc. I think Quanta members are price innerlastic and therefore after over 10 years at £14 we should be raising the price. How many members will the reduction to £10 generate, have you got a plan to target poor QLers and potential poor QLers (say a free QL scheme)? Does the £14/£17 cost differential have to be kept? Lets not fade away. Thanks for this contribution, Tarquin, it is the sort of discussion we should be having. I would like to see the subscription stay at £14 with the differential removed. (The £3 extra for overseas members only brings in £150 from an income of £6000). I don't think a reduction to £10 would bring in any new members, but £4 per member invested in QL development might encourage one or two more people to join. Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] SMSQE 3.07 Old QLs
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 at 00:38:28, jms1 wrote: This was John Sadler^ Your email looks remarkably like Jochen (8-)# (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Super Gold Card :Qubide :Serial Mouse Auroa The pointer icon is replaced with a cross and neither the right button or the left button works. Hence it is useless for pointer programs unless I use the keyboard. Gold Card : QUMI Mouse: Sinclair QL QIMI mouse. The mouse does not work at all and pointer programs can only be used with a keyboard So does that mean for the latest versions of SMSQE you have got have a QL with GD32 colours or are we going to have some backward compatability so the hiddem majority can enjoy the latest advances except for GD32 colours? I am -sure- you have a misconfigured config block. I know this caused sH mouse to die too. I forget exactly the item, but it can disable PTR_GEN mouse handling. It is something to do with enabling external drivers. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Just back from holiday and sorting through a couple of hundred emails. You can play Hunt the treasurer at Byfleet. I will probably be sat behind the QUANTA Table (as usual). Please stop and say Hello, rather than just walking past as most of the attendees usually do!! Still monitoring, John Gilpin. QUANTA Treasurer. - Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 - Original Message - From: P Witte Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 Per wrote: gwicks writes: Just a reminder that if you want to meet again at QL2005 then you have to lobby Quanta. Only 2 people have done this so far. That makes three, then. Three weeks since I wrote these guys. Apart from Geoff's reply on-list, no response at all. I suspect the committe's dead. Perhaps someone should go over and take a look? Perhaps we could organise a hunt the committee member competition at Byfleet! Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] QPC2 version 3.23
On 16 Nov 2004 at 11:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this a wise thing - updating a binary while it is actually running? I take it smsqe.bin is actually in memory and not actually actively running from the file being patched by menuconfig in that case. Well, once smsqe is loaded into memory, that's it. You're then configuring what is on the disk (and that file is closed, else you'd get an in use error) - it will NOT affect the QPC you're just running and that is doing the updating. The changes will only be seen if you quit qpc entiremy start again. Perfectly safe way to do it (else, I'd think, Marcel wouldn't have suggested it in the first place). Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think isnurance might be a major reason why(...) Just a quick question: was QL 2004 insured? Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] qdos gcc problem
Michael Grunditz wrote: The qdos-gcc libc does not compile on ppc linux, any hints ? You could try to post such issues to the ql-developers list. Maybe some who deal with crosscompiling or Linux are still subscribed there. I only have a sloppy look at ql-users archives now and then, but that happens rather seldom. So if you want me to see follow-ups soon, please keep the cc ql-developers. Before going into the details, it needs to be checked which exact GCC sources you are using, and which patches you have applied. There is a step- by-step instruction on how to build qdos-gcc at http://thgodef.nerim.net/qdos/qdosgcc.html Do you refer to that? If so, I think it can't work on PPC Linux without further modification. I have not specificly dealt with PPC Linux, but built qdos-gcc for 68k Linux, and had several endianess related problems. You probably know that x86 stores data in little-endian format, but the PPC (although it could hardware-wise also run in little-endian mode) uses big endian like 68k. There's a way to fix the endianess problems, but I don't remember the exact steps from memory. I could reproduce and document them for you with some effort, but I have little motivation to do so, for another reason: I found that qdos-gcc generates wrong code from long macros, which are e.g. used in some usual string operations. I reproduced the same effect under x86 Linux, 68k Linux and cygwin, so I'm pretty sure it's not an OS or library issue. I created a simplified example which eases reproduction of this problem, but nobody ever seemed (able) to care. Consequently, I stopped using qdos-gcc, it's too unreliable for me. The QL has no source- level C debugger, so it is already hard enough to debug larger projects _without_ additional serious compiler problems. In the end I had to turn back to good old native C68. Recently I have also patched the C68 (+assembler +linker +archiver) sources for MacOS X. The resulting cross-toolchain (PPC/MacOSX to 68k/QDOS) seemed to work OK. At least I was able to build my ethernet, tcp, email and web stuff, including the assembler sources. I had no time for further tests yet. If it helps, and somebody has the webspace, I can upload my C68 stuff for MacOS X somewhere. That would be quick and dirty as it is. I don't know exactly how much MacOS X and Linux differ with respect to compiling C68, but since both are POSIX compliant and use GCC, there shouldn't be too much. An alternative might be to hunt for Jonathan Hudson's old XTC68 sources. BTW it's a pity that the latest C68 sources are not accessible. Classic C68 has quite oldish behaviour, e.g. it doesn't even tolerate // comment markers. Some time ago I notified Dave about the problems with his website, but they don't seem fixed yet. All the best Peter ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] SMSQE 3.07 Old QLs
In a message dated 16/11/2004 13:20:32 GMT Standard Time, tony writes: Super Gold Card :Qubide :Serial Mouse Auroa The pointer icon is replaced with a cross and neither the right button or the left button works. Hence it is useless for pointer programs unless I use the keyboard. Gold Card : QUMI Mouse: Sinclair QL QIMI mouse. The mouse does not work at all and pointer programs can only be used with a keyboard So does that mean for the latest versions of SMSQE you have got have a QL with GD32 colours or are we going to have some backward compatability so the hiddem majority can enjoy the latest advances except for GD32 colours? I am -sure- you have a misconfigured config block. I know this caused sH mouse to die too. I forget exactly the item, but it can disable PTR_GEN mouse handling. It is something to do with enabling external drivers. Yes, there is definitely a config item in SMSQ/e Do you have an QIMI Mouse or something like that... -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ TEL: 01922 691607 Visit our website at URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk Stuck with ordinary dial up internet connection ?? Read our review of internet accelerators and broadband at: URL: http://www.rwapadventures.com/Services/reviews.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] qdos gcc problem
Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:28:14 +0100,() [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Michael Grunditz wrote: The qdos-gcc libc does not compile on ppc linux, any hints ? snip I have had tons of problems with qdos-gcc so I abandoned it altogether myself... no time to fix :-) In the end I had to turn back to good old native C68. Recently I have also patched the C68 (+assembler +linker +archiver) sources for MacOS X. The resulting cross-toolchain (PPC/MacOSX to 68k/QDOS) seemed to work OK. At least I was able to build my ethernet, tcp, email and web stuff, including the assembler sources. I had no time for further tests yet. If it helps, and somebody has the webspace, I can upload my C68 stuff for MacOS X somewhere. That would be quick and dirty as it is. I don't know exactly how much MacOS X and Linux differ with respect to compiling C68, but since both are POSIX compliant and use GCC, there shouldn't be too much. I have the necessary space :-) I will open up something for you today :-) An alternative might be to hunt for Jonathan Hudson's old XTC68 sources. I have had a lot of trouble but at the end managed to compile a version of XTC68 under Microsoft Visual C ++ (That's the way Dave does it as well). A ton of macros had to be fixed and conditions updated but it basically works :-P BTW it's a pity that the latest C68 sources are not accessible. Classic C68 has quite oldish behaviour, e.g. it doesn't even tolerate // comment markers. Some time ago I notified Dave about the problems with his website, but they don't seem fixed yet. Dave had told me that he planned on doing that about a year ago. I suspect he's extremely busy (like most of us) and he hadn't had the time. He did point me though to the right direction, however with missing sources you run the problem of inconsistencies between parts of the compiler suite. In reality (and I have used it so I know it works) even the old XTC-68 with updated libraries (ie the q40 library and the gd2 library) will work fine and even in conjuction with an ide such as the Bloodshed C IDE (I wrote an article on QLT on the subject a while ago). More over using the latest c68 sources one could make a more efficient XTC-68 environment. I was able only to cross compile cc, make and as68 but for the rest I had to use the old XTC-68 NT binaries as the newer sources had problems. I have notes on the subject somewhere... I will try to locate them Cheers, Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
In a message dated 16/11/2004 13:19:47 GMT Standard Time, wolf AT cp-paulet-lenerz.com writes: Hi all, A few weeks ago, we talked on this list abour printing to more modern printers. I mentined that it would be possible to use ProForma to print to them. You can now find something to that effect on my website. http://www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com/14mljkl24/wolf/download/ Wolfgang Good work Wolfgang - many thanks for making this start All we need now is for someone to convert it to run as a device driver, so that programs can simply output to PAR direct into the filter. I have however come across a problem running it on the latest QPC2 - just tried printing a basic program from within the GUI program - I got a Q-Lib error: Job 21 test Line 1360 Q-Lib error Indices wrong -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ TEL: 01922 691607 Visit our website at URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk Stuck with ordinary dial up internet connection ?? Read our review of internet accelerators and broadband at: URL: http://www.rwapadventures.com/Services/reviews.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 16/11/2004 13:19:47 GMT Standard Time, wolf AT cp-paulet-lenerz.com writes: Hi all, A few weeks ago, we talked on this list abour printing to more modern printers. I mentined that it would be possible to use ProForma to print to them. You can now find something to that effect on my website. http://www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com/14mljkl24/wolf/download/ Wolfgang Good work Wolfgang - many thanks for making this start All we need now is for someone to convert it to run as a device driver, No no no That can not work. PROforma/ProWesS already do some trickery to increase the stack for supervisor programs (to allow C code to be used). That is the bit which caused problems on Minerva for a long time. Anyway, general PROforma/ProWesS code cannot run in supervisor mode, it will only crash the machine. However, you could just throw the in a pipe and have a resident job checking for that pipe once in a while and print the stuff. The main problem with this solution is figuring out a mechanism to make sure that two programs which try printing at the same time don't get their data mangled. Kind regards, Joachim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] tk2_ext file
Michael Grunditz schrieb: Hi Where can I get a tk2_ext file for uqlx ? /Michael Email me if you have one ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm is tk2 free? wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
In a message dated 16/11/2004 20:17:15 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No no no That can not work. PROforma/ProWesS already do some trickery to increase the stack for supervisor programs (to allow C code to be used). That is the bit which caused problems on Minerva for a long time. Anyway, general PROforma/ProWesS code cannot run in supervisor mode, it will only crash the machine. However, you could just throw the in a pipe and have a resident job checking for that pipe once in a while and print the stuff. The main problem with this solution is figuring out a mechanism to make sure that two programs which try printing at the same time don't get their data mangled. Kind regards, Joachim OK, I see - however, surely that is where the new device driver could come in - it could take data sent to the PAR device (or whatever it is to be called), and through it into the pipe - if it presents a START DATA tag and END DATA tag, the Proforma Filter program which would be watching this pipe, would know when data started and ended Presumably, if a second program tried to print before the pipe was emptied by the Proforma Filter, the data would just be tagged on the end (or held in a queue) by the device driver. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ TEL: 01922 691607 Visit our website at URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk Stuck with ordinary dial up internet connection ?? Read our review of internet accelerators and broadband at: URL: http://www.rwapadventures.com/Services/reviews.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
In a message dated 16/11/2004 20:19:27 GMT Standard Time, dent freesurf.ch writes: How about testing if a £10 subscription would bring in new members by launching a special offer for new subscribers at £10 ? Jon. A good idea, but I think the main problem with attracting new members is that they do not see any sort of return for their subscription. It does serve one important function, in that it appears that many Quanta members still have original QLs and very little else... What do people actually want from Quanta - at the moment, all I see is - A library which has very few programs post 1995 - Quanta could take over the Public Domain software function (not sure if Dilwyn would mind) - providing it for free to members, or maybe small cost to non-members, equivalent to what Dilwyn currently charges. Problem is that no-one in Quanta seems willing / able / to have the expertise to run such a service and ensure that it is kept up to date - A magazine which is published infrequently and has few articles. The problem is that most of its membership do not seem interested in new QL technology and therefore articles in QL Today are beyond them or of no interest. On the other hand, all the basic functions of the QL have been done to death. -- No real support for members - instead the members tend to turn to traders. Quanta has access to quite a lot of second hand hardware and software (some of which I have) and I have suggested to John Gilpin that they should actually advertise this in their magazine themselves - especially low cost ways of upgrading standard QLs to give them more memory and disk drive access - A website which has very little information - it needs an overhaul, with links to current QL traders, some of the older articles, such as upgrade options, and above all, a means of applying to become a member - Shows - now Quanta has a long record of organising shows - however, they seem to have run out of steam and / or the incentive to organise these and it is now left mainly to the traders to organise and promote. I cannot see QL2005 happening if left to Quanta at the moment... - A stash of money which is sat there - it should be used towards the development and promotion of the QL. At the moment, it is sitting there and the longer it is left, the harder it is going to be to find a project to spend it on --- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ TEL: 01922 691607 Visit our website at URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk Stuck with ordinary dial up internet connection ?? Read our review of internet accelerators and broadband at: URL: http://www.rwapadventures.com/Services/reviews.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] tk2_ext file
In a message dated 16/11/2004 20:35:33 GMT Standard Time, michael.grunditz writes: Hi Where can I get a tk2_ext file for uqlx ? /Michael Email me if you have one Not too sure what the status is now on this Tony?? There is a copy provided with some of the emulators and on the emulators CD (oops)... If it is still copyright, you can always buy a second hand Toolkit 2 ROM for £5 from me, and get the binary as well !! I have a few ROMs - not sure how many - probably Tony Firshman has some too. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ TEL: 01922 691607 Visit our website at URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk Stuck with ordinary dial up internet connection ?? Read our review of internet accelerators and broadband at: URL: http://www.rwapadventures.com/Services/reviews.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] tk2_ext file
Not too sure what the status is now on this Tony?? There is a copy provided with some of the emulators and on the emulators CD (oops)... If it is still copyright, you can always buy a second hand Toolkit 2 ROM for £5 from me, and get the binary as well !! I have a few ROMs - not sure how many - probably Tony Firshman has some too. There is one supplied with Phoebus uqlx for mac but his site is down (?). /Michael ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] tk2_ext file
Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:47:53 GMT,() Michael Grunditz [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Not too sure what the status is now on this Tony?? There is a copy provided with some of the emulators and on the emulators CD (oops)... If it is still copyright, you can always buy a second hand Toolkit 2 ROM for 5 from me, and get the binary as well !! I have a few ROMs - not sure how many - probably Tony Firshman has some too. There is one supplied with Phoebus uqlx for mac but his site is down (?). /Michael ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm The site is NOT down... it just doesn't have anything in it :-D :-) The TK2 was from the distro of the original distro of uQLx. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
- Original Message - From: Duncan Neithercut Subject: RE: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 Geoff Wicks wrote : I don't think a reduction to £10 would bring in any new members, but £4 per member invested in QL development might encourage one or two more people to join. So reinvigorating Quanta - Some other ideas : Internet access on QL systems : It is possible using a UNIX shell account software that already exists according to an article on the DJ emulators CD : - The QUANTA committee could identify a provider bundle access to this sort of account plus software with membership. The magazine : shortage of articles but healthy finance : why not commission some show piece articles to make the magazine worth reading again - eg an idiots guide to using Ghostscript, line design etc etc. BTW what happened about the upgraded Perfection that is limited to a few individuals because of worries about ownership of this no longer for sale WP by a defunct company - Thanks for these further ideas. Let's hope others can suggest more! Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
- Original Message - From: dilwyn.jones Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 I think isnurance might be a major reason why it's best done under the Quanta banner, although there might not be any reason why the committee couldn't delegate it's organisation of the QL2005 to Geoff and a couple of other co-opted members to do the organising? Especially as Roy Brereton seems to be the show organiser without really having the time on his hands to do it as effectively as he'd like, especially as he's got the newsletter to worry about as well. Of course, it might just be possible that I could still be on the Quanta Committee. I am still considering all the options. To misquote some USA president, I forget which, when asked why kept critics in his cabinet. Is it better to have them inside the tent pissing out, or outside the tent pissing in? Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
- Original Message - From: John Gilpin Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 Just back from holiday and sorting through a couple of hundred emails. You can play Hunt the treasurer at Byfleet. I will probably be sat behind the QUANTA Table (as usual). Please stop and say Hello, rather than just walking past as most of the attendees usually do!! Actually, John, I thought all the committee were going to be at Byfleet. I thought we agreed at Hove that we would have a committee meeting there. After all there is a lot of business piling up and some things from the last meeting and from our February meeting still have to be resolved, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
- Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think isnurance might be a major reason why(...) Just a quick question: was QL 2004 insured? That's a question for Sin_QL_Air. I assume they, or the school, were covered. The problem with the UK is that there is a growing compensation culture so that you have to be doubly certain with insurance. The trouble is that you can't trust any damn lawyer! (Quickly dives under desk.) Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Hi, Tried the GUI program filter also got the same error message as Rich because I had not change the default location for the filter program on the GUI menu to the correct location - could that be the same cause ae Rich had? However I now have problem 2 : once the filter program is called by the GUI and the message screen is displaying that it is starting to process the file the filter quits with a QLIB error that indicates it is missing a SBAS extension IS_JOB - is this from a toolkit on your site? or another? Thanks in advance Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wolfgang Lenerz Sent: 16 November 2004 16:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter On 16 Nov 2004 at 9:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good work Wolfgang - many thanks for making this start All we need now is for someone to convert it to run as a device driver, so that programs can simply output to PAR direct into the filter. There's about 0% chance of that happening. I have however come across a problem running it on the latest QPC2 - just tried printing a basic program from within the GUI program - I got a Q-Lib error: Job 21 test Line 1360 Q-Lib error Indices wrong Uh, how strange. That line just says define procedure select_font (t%) Could you let me have the file you were trying to print from it? Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Dent wrote: How about testing if a £10 subscription would bring in new members by launching a special offer for new subscribers at £10 ? This could lose as many members as it gains. I suspect a fair proportion of the current paying membership members through inertia. A pound or so a month is not much to pay for a bit of nostalgia when (and if!) the Quanta newsletter arrives, although we are not active users any longer. Most don't even bother to lurk here. A change in the sub would only draw attention to the direct debit I don't think there is a crowd out there who refrain from joining for the sake of a penny a day! I am happy to continue to contribute a little financially. I even had a flush of enthusiasm when Jimmy Montesinos updated Qlay, and I wrote an piece for Quanta. Frankly, however, I am not even prepared to pay the cost of an emulator to further my interest. I agree that my investment in Quanta over the years should be spent to further the cause, before it's too late and the Red Cross get it. -- Regards, Stephen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] tk2_ext file
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 at 15:38:27, wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In a message dated 16/11/2004 20:35:33 GMT Standard Time, michael.grunditz writes: Hi Where can I get a tk2_ext file for uqlx ? /Michael Email me if you have one Not too sure what the status is now on this Tony?? There is a copy provided with some of the emulators and on the emulators CD (oops)... If it is still copyright, you can always buy a second hand Toolkit 2 ROM for £5 from me, and get the binary as well !! I have a few ROMs - not sure how many - probably Tony Firshman has some too. Dozens! I thought TK2 was still copyright. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
- Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 - Original Message - From: John Gilpin Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 Just back from holiday and sorting through a couple of hundred emails. You can play Hunt the treasurer at Byfleet. I will probably be sat behind the QUANTA Table (as usual). Please stop and say Hello, rather than just walking past as most of the attendees usually do!! Actually, John, I thought all the committee were going to be at Byfleet. I thought we agreed at Hove that we would have a committee meeting there. After all there is a lot of business piling up and some things from the last meeting and from our February meeting still have to be resolved, Best Wishes, Geoff That may be so, I have asked the question. Even so, I cannot vouch for other members being visible at Byfleet - Look hard!! John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
- Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 Dent wrote: How about testing if a £10 subscription would bring in new members by launching a special offer for new subscribers at £10 ? This could lose as many members as it gains. I suspect a fair proportion of the current paying membership members through inertia. A pound or so a month is not much to pay for a bit of nostalgia when (and if!) the Quanta newsletter arrives, although we are not active users any longer. Most don't even bother to lurk here. A change in the sub would only draw attention to the direct debit I don't think there is a crowd out there who refrain from joining for the sake of a penny a day! I am happy to continue to contribute a little financially. I even had a flush of enthusiasm when Jimmy Montesinos updated Qlay, and I wrote an piece for Quanta. Frankly, however, I am not even prepared to pay the cost of an emulator to further my interest. I agree that my investment in Quanta over the years should be spent to further the cause, before it's too late and the Red Cross get it. -- Regards, Stephen Just as a passing thought, does anyone have any idea as to how many of you guys who contribute to this list are current members of Quanta? Regards, John Gilpin. With my Membership Secretary's hat on. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
- Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:11 PM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 - Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think isnurance might be a major reason why(...) Just a quick question: was QL 2004 insured? That's a question for Sin_QL_Air. I assume they, or the school, were covered. The problem with the UK is that there is a growing compensation culture so that you have to be doubly certain with insurance. The trouble is that you can't trust any damn lawyer! (Quickly dives under desk.) Best Wishes, Geoff Quanta sponsored Workshops are covered by Public Liability Insurance until 16th April 2005 when the policy is due for renewal. And it is still getting more expensive every time we renew!! Regards, John Gilpin, Quanta Treasurer. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC2 version 3.23
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, whenever a new version is released, I have to set up my configuration settings again - is there a way around this? Sure, just use menuconfig to update the smsqe.bin file. Can also be done automatically, e.g. EX menuconfig;'\q \u dos1_qpc_smsqe.bin' Of course the old settings have to be learned first. Ciao, Marcel Is this a wise thing - updating a binary while it is actually running? I take it smsqe.bin is actually in memory and not actually actively running from the file being patched by menuconfig in that case. Doohhh...Recursive brain failure (stack full) approaching... The safe way to do this is to use a temp folder. Copy the new version of QPC into a folder called QPCtemp. Then run the current version. Learn the current settings, in case you have updated them and forgot about it and then configure the version in the temp folder. Quit and rename previous version so you can revert to it if you have a problem. Then copy version from the QPCtemp folder into the QPC folder and run it. Works for me. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Just as a passing thought, does anyone have any idea as to how many of you guys who contribute to this list are current members of Quanta? Regards, John Gilpin. With my Membership Secretary's hat on. I would have thought that with that hat on the question would not be necessary. But seriously, what does the QDOS SMSQ population consist of ? How many :- Traders Users of Emulators High end machines Thors Atari Expanded QLs Originals Of each :- Use in anger Hobby Shelved A questionnaire to all members , list supplemented with further names provided by traders lists ? Is a printed mag' needed, the time and costs must be a big chunk of expenditure. The same info could more easily be made available by email or on a web site. I find it hard to visualise where and why the system is wanted to go ? Surely everyone using any QL system has access to a mainstream m/c and access to the web - even Inet Caff ! Why then I wonder in the 21st year a maybe browser, or is it just for the hell of it ? Exploiting the virtues of 256 colours ia again a bit like reinventing the wheel unless it is principally a hobby thing (nothing against that). DT a long time ex QLer ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
