Question 4 a Guru: Adding a manual or semiautomatic rejection process for spam in vmailmgr/qmail..

[Sanjay Arora]

Hi All,

We have an application where we want to add a process of spam rejection.
Fully automated spam rejection is not wanted, as not a single non-spam
should not be redirected to /dev/nul. Also, full spam rejection is required.

We want something like moderated mailing lists, where a defined user gets
the mail identified as spam and is able to reverse the rejection of mail,
in addition to bouncing the mail which has escaped the spam filters.

Anyone know of such an application? Qmail/vmailmgr preferred but if any
other available, we would love to have pointers, so that we can study it
for adaptation purposes.

IAC, can somebody please give me some idea how such a thing can be
implemented in qmail/vmailmgr scenario?

How should the application get mail from qmail/vmailmgr...at which point in
the process of sending the mail to the mailbox?

How should the application put the mail to vmailmanager mailbox?

Would like to use existing qmail/vmailmgr procedures wherever possible!!

Hope someone can help me.

With best regards.
Sanjay.

qmail Digest 24 Dec 2000 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 1223

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qmail Digest 24 Dec 2000 11:00:01 - Issue 1223

Topics (messages 54373 through 54387):

Re: newbie question. please recommend solution
54373 by: Greg Owen
54379 by: Sridhar Balasubramanian

Re: request to prefix subject header.
54374 by: Russell Nelson
54384 by: Dennis

qmail as backup server
54375 by: Vladimir Vucinic
54377 by: joshua stein
54378 by: Vladimir Vucinic

synchronize 2 Maildirs
54376 by: Clemens Hermann

Logging Messages - qmail newbie
54380 by: Anonymous user

Blocking certain attachments
54381 by: Anonymous user

Relaying only
54382 by: Andy Furnell
54385 by: richard.illuin.org

list
54383 by: Kurth Bemis
54386 by: richard.illuin.org

Question 4 a Guru: Adding a manual or semiautomatic  rejection process for spam in 
vmailmgr/qmail..
54387 by: Sanjay Arora

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 Here is the thing: I DO NOT have a domain YET. SO in my 
 /etc/hosts file, I added swaru as my machine name. SInce I'm 
 not part of any network (it's a system at which is soon going 
 to be a web/mail server), I named my machine swaru (swami + guru :-).

I don't know anything about vmailmgr, but I do know that qmail never
uses the hosts file, only DNS.  Never ever.  Not on a bet.  Not if you ask
nicely.  Not even if you're listed on Santa's "Nice" list.

You might want to set up a "private" DNS server that pretends you
have a domain for the purposes of setting up and testing mail services.

-- 
gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Greg, thanks for the insight. I AM getting a domain soon. I'm getting my DSL
on a static IP and am going to register a domain and assign it. My DNS
server is going to be elsewhere (probably at work).

anyway, I chucked out vmailmgr and installed vpopmail.

Now I've finally accomplished what I wanted to. I can give my friends POP3
accounts and not let them have unix accounts.

So if Anyone needs help configuring such a system, let me know. Although I'm
not the best unix network person (hey, I'm still in high school ...) I'll
probably be able to assist you.

thanks,
-sridhar

-Original Message-
From: Greg Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 6:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: newbie question. please recommend solution



 Here is the thing: I DO NOT have a domain YET. SO in my
 /etc/hosts file, I added swaru as my machine name. SInce I'm
 not part of any network (it's a system at which is soon going
 to be a web/mail server), I named my machine swaru (swami + guru :-).

I don't know anything about vmailmgr, but I do know that qmail never
uses the hosts file, only DNS.  Never ever.  Not on a bet.  Not if you ask
nicely.  Not even if you're listed on Santa's "Nice" list.

You might want to set up a "private" DNS server that pretends you
have a domain for the purposes of setting up and testing mail services.

--
gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Dennis writes:
  Hello to one and all (especially the list managers)
  
  Can I make a suggestion
  Why don't we prefix the subject header with [qmail].
  It makes filtering a lot easier.

Every piece of email from the qmail mailing list has this header in it:
Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm

Is there any reason why your software cannot key off that header
instead of the Subject: header?

-- 
-russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://russnelson.com | If I knew the
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | destination of the
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | handbasket, I never would
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | have gotten into it!




thanks for showing me the error of my ways :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Russell Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2000 2:21 AM
 To: Qmail@List. Cr. Yp. To
 Subject: Re: request to prefix subject header.
 
 
 Dennis writes:
   Hello to one and all (especially the list managers)
   
   Can I make a suggestion
   Why don't we prefix the subject header with [qmail].
   It makes filtering a lot easier.
 
 Every piece of email from the qmail mailing list has this header in it:
 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
 
 Is there any reason why your software cannot key off that header
 instead of the Subject: header?
 
 -- 
 -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://russnelson.com | If I knew the
 Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | destination of the
 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | handbasket, I 
 never would
 Potsdam, NY 

mail() spam question (PHP)!

[Michail A.Baikov]

How to set spam control on mail() function. We allow use mail() for our free
hosting. How to set limit use mail() (PHP v4.0.3pl1).

Method's of QMAIL plz.

Re: mail() spam question (PHP)!

[Felix von Leitner]

 How to set spam control on mail() function. We allow use mail() for our free
 hosting. How to set limit use mail() (PHP v4.0.3pl1).

 Method's of QMAIL plz.

Forget it.
php allows users to open sockets and send mails without using qmail at
all.

Felix

concurrency always 0

[J.M. Roth]

Hi

I have those mrtg scripts which visualize qmail status
A few weeks ago remote concurrency became 1 and that is its minimum value
ever since, I wonder why. Before that it was always 0, unless sth.
happenend...

Any idea?

J.M. Roth

Re: mail() spam question (PHP)!

[Sean Reifschneider]

On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 02:34:22PM +0300, Michail A.Baikov wrote:
How to set spam control on mail() function. We allow use mail() for our free
hosting. How to set limit use mail() (PHP v4.0.3pl1).

This is more of a PHP question than a QMail question.  You might want to
do something like build an extension to PHP where the access to the mail()
and socket and other routies is restricted based on something like a
cron.allow file.  You'd probably also have to limit access to qmail-inject,
qmail-queue, sendmail and datemail, possibly access to popen(), etc...

The words "finger" and "dike" come to mind.

Sean
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