tcp wrappers and webmail
Hello Again, I think I'm finally getting qmail set up like I want. I'm using Maildir access and got tcpserver to work instead of inetd. I'm curious, is there any way to get tcp wrappers to work? I can do it with inetc, but not tcpserver. While I'm at it, is there any possible way to create a web-based email client that doesn't use pop for mail access? I'd like to set up a web mail reader that could do direct Maildir access w/o being some major security hole. Is it possible? Thanks Again, Jason
Random Qmail Questions
DISCLAIMER: Please forgive me if these are totally pathetic question. Believe it or not, I have read through the docs, and still haven't figured things out. First Question: I've set up qmail to run in Maildir mode. All of my users now have their pretty little ~/Maildir/ set up. Right now I've got pine aliased to pinq so that everything will work. I notice that when a user starts pine, it automatically creates a Mailbox instead of using the Maildir. Does maildir2mbox do this automatically, or do I have something set up wrong? Second Question: I can't seem to send mail to root. Every time I try, a message ends up in the logs stating: delivery x: deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1) I think I have all my permissions set correctly. What could be the problem? Also, I get the same error message when I send mail to a certain user, but it waits a second and delivers the mail to that user anyway. Weird.. Third Question: While looking through the FAQ, I've noticed a lot of mailer bashing. Under the questions "How to I get x mailer to work with qmail?" there always seems to be some mention of how that mailer is insecure, unreliable, and basically worthless. Yet, I don't see any mention of what one is supposed to use instead. What is the preferred MUA for DJ Bernstein dittoheads? Is there a mailer with native Maildir support? Fourth Question: Last question I promise. While looking through the docs, I've seen lots of recommendations to switch over to various programs, programs to replace things such as syslog and inet. I've noticed that all of these replacement programs seem to be in the beta stage. How reliable are they currently? I'm a bit wary of using beta software to replace something as important as my syslog and inet! I just wanted to ask before I try. Thanks for putting up with all my lame questions. Regards, Jason
Re: Random Qmail Questions
Pine only groks mailboxes, so maildir2mbox moves the messages from a maildir to an mbox for Pine's benefit. In the longer run, consider running an IMAP server that handles maildirs. I realized that it didn't like Maildir, but I thought you could set what file it used as it's mbox by setting the MAILTMP variable. I've got my MAILTMP set as something else entirely, yet it insists on using Mailbox. Why would I want to set up an IMAP server? I don't currently have one running. The way I see it, the less open ports I've got, the better. That's a feature, qmail doesn't want to run as root which it would have to do. Use ~alias/.qmail-root to send root's mail somewhere else. Ah thank you. I knew I had forgotten to ask something. I aliases work under qmail. I've got some aliases under people's home directories, so they can accept mail from other addresses, but I haven't figured out how the ~alias/.qmail-x works. Do I need to put the address to forward to in the /.qmail-root file? Is it as simple as that? People say nice things about mutt. The rest of us make do with worthless unreliable MUAs. Glad you brought up mutt. I've been wanting to switch to it for some time now. Unfortunately I haven't found an editor that works with it too well. It was using vi, but vi seems to forget to wrap the text, so it sends everything on this one long line. I tried using pico as well, but it sits there and asks me what file I want to save it as etc., which is just a pain. BTW, does mutt use Maildir, or will I have to set up a mutq filter for it as well? More reliable than the things they replace. Dan's definition of beta is along the lines of "not known to be bug-free" rather than the more popular "runs well enough that maybe the users will debug it for us." Like most bits of qmail, tcpserver is really nice once you believe that it really is fast and nail down its typical three-mile long command line. Thanks, I'm into anything that'll save me some memory and a few CPU cycles. I'll have to give them a try. Regards, Jason
dialup w/ qmail
Greetings all, I just got finished (mostly) setting up qmail on a server I'm preparing to put on the net. Until I get my FQDN I'm using a standard ppp connection and just have localhost.localdomain in all my control files. This allows me to send mail to others on the server, as well as send mail to other hosts when I connect it w/ ppp. However, since I don't have a real domain, I can't seem to receive anything. I try to send mail to the server from a remote host, and it gripes that the address (whataver.ppp-mfc.etc..) isn't in the rcpthosts file. I also can't seem to receive pop mail (via fetchmail) due to the same problem. Once I get the domain set up, the first problem should go away. However, I'm not too sure about the second. Any Ideas? Thanks, Jason
Re: dialup w/ qmail
People should not be addressing mail directly to your server, unless it has a sufficiently stable presence on the Internet (static IP, DDNS, etc.). They should be sending mail to you c/o your ISP. Well that's fine. Once I get the static IP/domain I'll add that to the rcpthosts and all will be well. I was just checking to see if I could send to it from a remote host while online. Sendmail used to let me do it, but then again it'd let a person get away with murder if they wished :) I'll guess that they say, "localhost" is not in rcpthosts. You could just add it; alternately run fetchmail with "-S localhost.localdomain", or add "smtphost localhost.localdomain" to your .fetchmailrc file. Presumably, "localhost.localdomain" IS in your rcpthosts. That's the basic idea of it. I added the -S option and it worked great. Hey it wasn't until just recently I realized that fetchmail runs through the local mail server (duh@me). BTW, I notice (as I download 1718 messages from my remote server) that the hard drive seems to run awfully hard during qmail operations. It's only for a split second (after flushing each message) but it's somewhat loud. Is that possibly because qmail writes to the drive asap instead of caching it in memory or something? I've got Maildir access currently set up, so I thought maybe the more frequent hd writes had to do with being in my /home/ directory. You mentioned setting up a .fetchmailrc. I've never managed to figure out the syntax. What does a basic .fetchmailrc look like? I'd like to set up a little cron script to dial up my ISP, make sure it connects, download all my POP mail and then hangup afterwards. Unfortunately, that'd require me learning how to write cron scripts as well. I apologize for all the lame newbie questions. Mailer daemons are not something I've dabbled with before. I've always just left my system with whatever defaults it came with and never gave it a second thought. Switching over to qmail has been a learning experience for me...one that I'm not regretting. Jason
rcpthosts
Ok, I sort of asked this question before, but I'm going to try again, this time with a little more info. I try to use fetchmail to download mail from another server. While running fetchmail, it dies saying "fetchmail: can't even send to user!" (user being whoever I'm logged in as. Later, I received an email to my localhost from the "fetchmail-daemon" saying "Some addresses were rejected by the MDA fetchmail sends to" with a Diagnostic-Code: user: 533 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1). What do I need to do to get around this? THanks, Jason
More Info (was Re: rcpthosts)
You still haven't given enough information. What's in rcphosts, locals, and your .fetchmailrc (less passwords, of course)? How about a sample of one of those fetchmail-daemon bounces, including the complete header? -Dave For the time being, my system only has a dialup connection, so all that's in my rcpthosts and locals is localhost.localdomain. As far as the .fetchmailrc, I'm actually just typing in it at the command line "fetchmail -p POP3 -a -u user host.net". As for the fetchmail bounce, I've attatched the complete message. Thanks for being so patient, Jason -- Forwarded message -- From: FETCHMAIL-DAEMON@localhost To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some addresses were rejected by the MDA fetchmail forwards to. --om-mani-padme-hum-2139-2123-926460989 Content-Type: MESSAGE/DELIVERY-STATUS; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Description: Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost Final-Recipient: rfc822; jason Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:16:29 -0600 (MDT) Action: failed Status: j.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: jason: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) --om-mani-padme-hum-2139-2123-926460989 Content-Type: TEXT/RFC822-HEADERS; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Description: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11 May 99 17:15:00 -0500 Subject: co Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --om-mani-padme-hum-2139-2123-926460989--
Re: More Info (was Re: rcpthosts)
[ snip ] --om-mani-padme-hum-2139-2123-926460989 Content-Type: MESSAGE/DELIVERY-STATUS; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Description: Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost Final-Recipient: rfc822; jason Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:16:29 -0600 (MDT) Action: failed Status: j.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: jason: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) Unless RFC1894 has been updated, recently, fetchmail's DSNs are horribly broken. Write ESR and tell him to fix his buggy code. -- Sam Is that to say that there's not particularly wrong with my qmail configuration? Is there some other way to recieve POP3 mail that will work fine w/ qmail? Jason
